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Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage[W:780]

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That's, wow, out of the blue. The state can appeal the ruling, of course. I haven't been able to figure out if same-sex couples can have a license issued in the state of Utah, or not? Anyone?

Federal judge strikes down Utah

Salt Lake Tribune said:
A federal judge in Utah Friday struck down the state’s ban on same-sex marriage, saying the law violates the U.S. Constitution’s guarantees of equal protection and due process.

"The state’s current laws deny its gay and lesbian citizens their fundamental right to marry and, in so doing, demean the dignity of these same-sex couples for no rational reason," wrote U.S. District Court Judge Robert J. Shelby. "Accordingly, the court finds that these laws are unconstitutional."

"It feels unreal," said Moudi Sbeity, who with his partner Derek L. Kitchen were plaintiffs in the case. "I’m just very thrilled that Derek and I will be able to get married soon, if all goes well and the state doesn’t appeal. We want a farmer’s market wedding because it’s where we spend a lot of time."

Obama appointment, btw.
 
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Wow Utah. That's going to create some serious social backlash in that state.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

For no rational reason? He pretty much writes off the reasons that the majority of voters had when voting and is saying they are not rational. This needs to be appealed and overturned, what a far far far overstepping of judicial rule.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Can teh gayz go to Kolob?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

That's a pretty red state, usually ranking 1st or 2nd, iirc. Very cool.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

That's a pretty red state, usually ranking 1st or 2nd, iirc. Very cool.

Yeah, because turning the 66% of voters that voted to put traditional marriage as the definition of marriage for their state into second class citizens and saying their right to vote and the states ability to define marriage for itself made an "irrational" decision is "cool."

It's not cool, it's sick and such a massive injustice against freedom and human rights. Regardless of your stance on SSM, this is wrong on so many levels.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

As someone else wrote (Disney?)...."like dominoes."
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Wow Utah. That's going to create some serious social backlash in that state.

If it goes to a citizen vote in that state, just IMO it would lose. Would a judge then be able to overturn it? They did in CA, but it was overturned again.

In my state, the state legistature voted to legalize SSM, but according to state laws, the 'pro-family' organizations got enough signatures to force a citizens' vote...which they lost.

All this back and forth is kind of a waste if the highest judicial systems are all pretty much on the same page and just going to overturn anything denying SSM.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Yeah, because turning the 66% of voters that voted to put traditional marriage as the definition of marriage for their state into second class citizens and saying their right to vote and the states ability to define marriage for itself made an "irrational" decision is "cool."

It's not cool, it's sick and such a massive injustice against freedom and human rights. Regardless of your stance on SSM, this is wrong on so many levels.
I've never been keen on same-sex marriage court rulings. Usually the LGBT community bears the brunt of the backlash in the form of visceral and violence.
 
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Yeah, because turning the 66% of voters that voted to put traditional marriage as the definition of marriage for their state into second class citizens and saying their right to vote and the states ability to define marriage for itself made an "irrational" decision is "cool."

Removing the ability of Person A to strip away the rights of Person B does not make Person A a second class citizen. This has been explained many times to no avail.

It's not cool, it's sick and such a massive injustice against freedom and human rights. Regardless of your stance on SSM, this is wrong on so many levels.

It seems you possess a child-like understanding of both concepts.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

For no rational reason? He pretty much writes off the reasons that the majority of voters had when voting and is saying they are not rational. This needs to be appealed and overturned, what a far far far overstepping of judicial rule.

No rational reason? Wow....so the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution is not a rational reason. Wow....seriously....just wow.

What you and others are failing to understand Digs is that Constitutional rights are not subject to a majority vote. Can you imagine if inter-racial marriage had been put to a majority vote?
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

What was that that somebody wrote....ah.....just yesterday......that the Red States would never have marriage equality? Welcome to 2013....where Bigotry is not allowed anymore.
Another chip falls....another great day for America and the good guys!
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Removing the ability of Person A to strip away the rights of Person B does not make Person A a second class citizen. This has been explained many times to no avail.

Yeah, because the explanations provided are just "lipstick on a pig". There is no federal right to marry.

It seems you possess a child-like understanding of both concepts.

I have the same view of your opinon on this matter.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Yeah, because the explanations provided are just "lipstick on a pig". There is no federal right to marry.



I have the same view of your opinon on this matter.


Education...dude.....Loving v. Virginia. Take a look you might learn something
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

For no rational reason? He pretty much writes off the reasons that the majority of voters had when voting and is saying they are not rational. This needs to be appealed and overturned, what a far far far overstepping of judicial rule.

How about "you don't get to vote on somebody else's rights, Utah ****nuts."

A voter's reasons for wanting an unconstitutional law aren't relevant.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

What was that that somebody wrote....ah.....just yesterday......that the Red States would never have marriage equality? Welcome to 2013....where Bigotry is not allowed anymore.
Another chip falls....another great day for America and the good guys!

It'll be quicly overturned by another federal judge. This is the first judge's attempt to give SCOTUS a case to rule on. Transparent. SCOTUS won't pick this one up either.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Yeah, because turning the 66% of voters that voted to put traditional marriage as the definition of marriage for their state into second class citizens and saying their right to vote and the states ability to define marriage for itself made an "irrational" decision is "cool."

It's not cool, it's sick and such a massive injustice against freedom and human rights. Regardless of your stance on SSM, this is wrong on so many levels.

How come I never got the freedom to veto your marriage? I don't approve of your wife.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

How about "you don't get to vote on somebody else's rights, Utah ****nuts."

You do when they're not rights, or when they are rights granted solely by the states.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

It'll be quicly overturned by another federal judge. This is the first judge's attempt to give SCOTUS a case to rule on. Transparent. SCOTUS won't pick this one up either.

We'll see. They're already issuing marriage licenses in Salt Lake City at this very minute. Sorry....but another chip falls.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

How come I never got the freedom to veto your marriage? I don't approve of your wife.

You don't live in my state nor do you have enough support of your fellow citizens to do so. Not a hard concept to understand.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

It'll be quicly overturned by another federal judge. This is the first judge's attempt to give SCOTUS a case to rule on. Transparent. SCOTUS won't pick this one up either.

Lot of federal district courts ruling in favor of SSM bans lately? :lamo
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

We'll see. They're already issuing marriage licenses in Salt Lake City at this very minute. Sorry....but another chip falls.

That means nothing but that the state gets to keep the filing fee.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Lot of federal district courts ruling in favor of SSM bans lately? :lamo

Meaningless until the SCOTUS takes one of the cases and gives a clear ruling either way.
 
Re: Federal judge strikes down Utah’s ban on same-sex marriage

Lot of federal district courts ruling in favor of SSM bans lately? :lamo

The bigots of America are desperately clinging to the last vestiges of discrimination...its actually very enjoyable to watch.
 
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