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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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Just because one man and one organization are hold bigoted beliefs does not associate them together.
 
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Traditional values are being openly attacked? Puuuhhhlease. If attacking homosexuals is "traditional values" then good riddance.' It used to be "traditional" for races to only marry amongst the same race.

No, traditional values are not being attacked, a station is standing up for gays like they have a right to.

If a worker on a Christian show openly complained about Christians and how Christianity leads to fascism, I would support that station suspending or firing the worker.

Certainly you have to see the weakness of your argument there. Gays are a small to non-existent percentage of the viewing audience, self-identified christians are not.
 
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Just because one man and one organization are hold bigoted beliefs does not associate them together.

no, that is done when you bring both groups up and draw an association. Like when someone goes, "hey, look who supports the duck dynasty guy!"
 
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Certainly you have to see the weakness of your argument there. Gays are a small to non-existent percentage of the viewing audience, self-identified christians are not.

Gays are a small part, gay support is not small it is rather quite large. I am a heterosexual and I support gays and SSM.
 
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Just because one man and one organization are hold bigoted beliefs does not associate them together.

Then why do you bring it up?
 
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your presentation was that phil can get away with his odious behavior by cloaking it in the religiosity of the bible
i offered those other examples to prove your presentation wrong
if the religious basis will not protect him from being found wrong having slaves or stoning someone, it will similarly not protect him from the consequences of saying stupid ****

You just show your own lack of understanding.
 
Phil and the rest could give two ****s whether A&E has a show or not. In fact, I'm sure they're tired of being followed around. They are already wealthy, don't need the income. However A&E is a different story - they NEED the show. Their other big bread winners are slowly dying, but this show keeps rising in the ratings.

A&E is desparately looking for a way to cave without looking like they've caved. Better believe some producers will lose their jobs over this.
 
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I meant a person making a statement in favor of homosexuality (which is expressing a moral judgement), not the mere statement that they are gay.

Saying you support homosexuality does not mean you oppose heterosexuality.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Gays are a small part, gay support is not small it is rather quite large. I am a heterosexual and I support gays and SSM.

Yeah, yeah, who cares. Are you a Duck Dynasty viewer?
 
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Saying you support homosexuality does not mean you oppose heterosexuality.

that seems like a distinction without a difference within the context of your discussion: what is an isn't a moral position
 
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no, that is done when you bring both groups up and draw an association. Like when someone goes, "hey, look who supports the duck dynasty guy!"

So stating an event that is taking place associates them? Or is me just saying it mean im associating them? Because im just stating Westboro is planning a protest in support of the Duck Dynasty Guy? So simply stating that means im associating them together?
 
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So stating an event that is taking place associates them? Or is me just saying it mean im associating them? Because im just stating Westboro is planning a protest in support of the Duck Dynasty Guy? So simply stating that means im associating them together?

There was little purpose to bring it up unless you were trying to associate them, and the context you presented it in was clearly meant to associate them. I'm not sure why you lack the ability to admit such things, but it's why people think you're a buffoon and not your political beliefs (which you often seem to assume)
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

So stating an event that is taking place associates them? Or is me just saying it mean im associating them? Because im just stating Westboro is planning a protest in support of the Duck Dynasty Guy? So simply stating that means im associating them together?

Yes it does, and if you were honest you'd admit it's why you brought it up, to tie the two together.
 
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Because its relevant to this thread and i read about it.

It's not relevant. It's just a few extreme morons that cheer lead anything anti-gay. You could bring it up every time someone disapproves of homosexuality. It means nothing, as you yourself have admitted.
 
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This is a very specific case of someone being fired for a expressing a religious/moral opinion.

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men ... Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

There is expressing your opinion..., and then there is expressing your opinion. He obviously doesn't listen to his PR/legal team, or they are just plain incompetent.
 
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Yes it does,
So if the news media brought this up and stated "Westboro is planning a protest in support of Robertson" is meaning that they are associating the two together? Or are they just reporting an event which is taking place? Hell it seems to me that Westboro is trying to associate itself with Robertson...

and if you were honest you'd admit it's why you brought it up, to tie the two together.
No i didnt. I just stated, "hey look a bigoted group is supporting a bigot".
 
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Yeah, yeah, who cares. Are you a Duck Dynasty viewer?

Obviously YOU care since you responded. No I don't watch duck dynasty but I watch other shows on A&E. I don't really care what they do with the show the decision is up to A&E. My viewing isn't determined by some red neck low information voter show.
 
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It's not relevant. It's just a few extreme morons that cheer lead anything anti-gay. You could bring it up every time someone disapproves of homosexuality. It means nothing, as you yourself have admitted.

Is this thread about Robertson? Is Westboro protesting in support of Robertson. Seems relevant to me.
 
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It's not relevant. It's just a few extreme morons that cheer lead anything anti-gay. You could bring it up every time someone disapproves of homosexuality. It means nothing, as you yourself have admitted.

the westboro baptist members - just like you - have come out in support of phil robertson's bigotry against the LBGT community
 
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the westboro baptist members - just like you - have come out in support of phil robertson's bigotry against the LBGT community

Duck Guy = WBC, or I'm a bigot?

haha

I can't believe such black and white thinking.
 
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that seems like a distinction without a difference within the context of your discussion: what is an isn't a moral position

The opposition of a moral position is not what he is being flagged for. It's how he portrayed homosexuality; akin to bestiality. The guy, as a representative of A&E, has no business even mentioning bestiality, let alone using it in conjunction with homosexuality to establish a moral position. For a guy who spends so much time in the woods..., it's not something you want mentioned when your name comes up.
 
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Well obviously A&E doesn't feel that way otherwise dude would have never been pulled.

Also, you can bet A&E highly regrets their decision -
the backlash directed at them must be difficult to deal with....




Lots of things are difficult to deal with.

But people continue to deal with them and life goes on.
 
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the westboro baptist members - just like you - have come out in support of phil robertson's bigotry against the LBGT community

Has eco even supported the Duck Dynasty guys? But thank you for giving us an even clearer example of the fallacy, though that wasn't likely your intention
 
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