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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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justabubba said:
homophobia is not political correctness
advocating homophobia is bigotry
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Wait one minute with the munging of the language. Isn't "homophobia" just the fear of homosexuality? Are hydrophobes bigotted against water?
 
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justabubba said:
again, i strongly disagree with your incorrect statement
he expressed his opposition to homosexuality and attempted to use the bible to justify his bigotry
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opposition to homosexuality =/= homophobia just sayin....
[h=2]Definition of HOMOPHOBIA[/h] : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

before you can call him a homophobe you must first prove that his fear or aversion is irrational or that he discriminates agains gays.

not saying he is, not saying he isn't. just saying that just because you oppose homosexuality, it doesn't mean you are a homophobe.
 
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justabubba said:
fisher for bigots of the same ilk is more like it
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He netted a bunch of bigots. The Christianists came out of the woodwork...lol!
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Like I said, you and the rest can key off on one word I used, ignore the rest of the argument.......and then pretend while doing your touchdown dance.........that you have changed the reality of the situation.

Hint: This was not an act of god....the POTUS, SCOTUS nor Congress got involved. A&E suspended a contract actor via provisions in his contract, it was not done because a producer just felt like it.

Your weak, pointless attacks upon what I believe happened.....doesn't change the fact that it happened. Negating, is not disproving.

If you have nothing to say as far as your beliefs as to HOW A&E suspended.....then you have nothing to add.
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Your just doubling down on your original assumptions that you have yet to prove.
 
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OscarB63 said:
I know for a fact that you do not know for a fact. simple as that.
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And I know for a fact that you have no absolute knowledge either.......so what?

That does not get anyone any closer to understanding what more than likely did happen, ie what allowed A&E to suspend.
 
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ARealConservative said:
it's all speculation.

some people act in economic interests. some want to be liked. some act on principals, even if it means not being liked.

some are stupid, and they do one of the above, but get it wrong.
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Are you saying that A&E did not react to pressure from GLAAD, and HRC to suspend Phil Robertson?
 
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clownboy said:
Your just doubling down on your original assumptions that you have yet to prove.
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but...but...but... he knows it for a fact
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

justabubba said:
again, i strongly disagree with your incorrect statement
he expressed his opposition to homosexuality and attempted to use the bible to justify his bigotry
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No, he paraphrased the Bible. The bigots are the ones that think he hates gays, because he's a Christian.
 
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clownboy said:
Your just doubling down on your original assumptions that you have yet to prove.
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Um, I don't have to prove anything to you, this forum is not anywhere close to being a place of absolute fact and knowledge.


Don't be ridiculous.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
And I know for a fact that you have no absolute knowledge either.......so what?
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agreed. but I am not the one claiming to have absolute knowledge, now am I? that's what..... :laughat:
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
And I know for a fact that you have no absolute knowledge either.......so what?

That does not get anyone any closer to understanding what more than likely did happen, ie what allowed A&E to suspend.
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And you've done nothing to show your assumptions are accurate. The contract could easily have been signed in an at will employment state. No morals clause needed.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Um, I don't have to prove anything to you, this forum is not anywhere close to being a place of absolute fact and knowledge.


Don't be ridiculous.
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you do if you make stupid claims such as "I know for a fact....."

hint: if you don't want to be called on it, don't make claims you can't back up.
 
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clownboy said:
And you've done nothing to show your assumptions are accurate. The contract could easily have been signed in an at will employment state. No morals clause needed.
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Oh well, if you have knowledge that this is a common form of contract used at A&E, go right ahead and argue that.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Um, I don't have to prove anything to you, this forum is not anywhere close to being a place of absolute fact and knowledge.


Don't be ridiculous.
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Of course you don't. You can spout nonsense and absolute bull**** all day long. The only effect of not proving your assumptions is that the other folks here see that you do nothing but spout nonsense and bull**** all day long and laugh when you post. If that's what you're after here - you got it.
 
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OscarB63 said:
you do if you make stupid claims such as "I know for a fact....."

hint: if you don't want to be called on it, don't make claims you can't back up.
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Are you still doing a touchdown dance? Thats cute!
 
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clownboy said:
On a side note, those (and more) are exactly what happens when you overpopulate a rat enclosure (while keeping a steady source of food/water). :mrgreen:
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Just curious, how does a rat commit bestiality?
 
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A & E knew exactly what they were getting when they hired these guys. That they are shocked when one of them says what was already known says more about A & E than it does Robertson.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Oh well, if you have knowledge that this is a common form of contract used at A&E, go right ahead and argue that.
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Once again, you're the one claiming to have knowledge of this particular contract. When asked to show your work, you try to wiggle out of producing it. It's on you to prove YOUR claims.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Not really. It's a thought association. It automatically throws that particular sin in with the others. However, homosexuality has become associated with only some *certain* sins, sins which the speakers happens to proclaim to not violate. It's a way of lumping together, say, pedophilia, bestiality, or rape.

If you want to practice this, all you have to do is subtract a few key ingredients and put in others. "Gun owners are part of a national sickness like racism, rape, and murder."
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actually he cited a pretty broad range of actions, everything from "swindlers and drunkers", to men who are "sleeping around with this woman and that woman". Hell, I think he even mentioned idolaters.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Oh...wait....do you have PROOF? Internal memos....showing that "threats...allow A&E to suspend?
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Oh I see, so I needed to be in the internal memo loop of A&E to put 2 and 2 together eh? :roll:

Here is what GLAAD released in a statement to the press.

"GLAAD representative Wilson Cruz responded to Robertson's remarks with a statement:

"Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe. He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans -- and Americans -- who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples.

"Phil's decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families."

Duck Dynasty family, GOP defend Phil Robertson - chicagotribune.com

Yeah, no implied threat there...NOOOOOOOO!
 
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clownboy said:
Of course you don't. You can spout nonsense and absolute bull**** all day long. The only effect of not proving your assumptions is that the other folks here see that you do nothing but spout nonsense and bull**** all day long and laugh when you post. If that's what you're after here - you got it.
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That is my worry isn't it? Do I care what you think of me? Hmmmm....no.

I still waiting for anyone to argue convincingly....that there is no way a morals clause would not have been included.
So far, it has been confirmed that they are a very common clause.
 
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Mason66 said:
Just curious, how does a rat commit bestiality?
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:lamo

Thanks for that, I needed coffee on my screen.

Seriously though, some become impotent, others hump anything in sight. Water bottles, the side of the enclosure, a piece of food.
 
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Mason66 said:
Please tell us why you think Phil Robertson has no integrity?

And once again Bashir quit.
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His ignorance on black people and homosexuality... Being out of touch with the truth shows he's lacking in moral principle.
 
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j-mac said:
Oh I see, so I needed to be in the internal memo loop of A&E to put 2 and 2 together eh? :roll:

Here is what GLAAD released in a statement to the press.

"GLAAD representative Wilson Cruz responded to Robertson's remarks with a statement:

"Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe. He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans -- and Americans -- who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples.

"Phil's decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families."

Duck Dynasty family, GOP defend Phil Robertson - chicagotribune.com

Yeah, no implied threat there...NOOOOOOOO!
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Uh....errrrr.......I did not say the "threat" did not exist (whatever that means)....the point was whether you believe in his contract there is a provision that said "threats" are reason for suspension.

That was YOUR speculation.
 
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calamity said:
I don't recall saying he was fired. What I said was that he was "dumped" and "let go". Being forced to resign qualifies.
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Do you have proof that he was "forced" to resign?
 
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