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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Speaking of hypocrisy. I notice that the same people defending Duck Guy, arguing that A&E should not have dropped his show for saying homos are like beast lovers, by some miracle of the ether also happen to be the exact same bunch who screamed for Martin Bashir's head when he suggested someone should **** down Palin's throat. The RW hypocrisy never seems to end, it seems.

Yeah, well what you're failing to notice are the differences between the two cases that make them nothing like one another. It's not even apples and oranges, it apples and spaceships.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Intellectually. He's running around like a child spewing nonsense based on fear and hysteria, dressed in strange clothing and basically attention whoring everywhere he goes. He needs to grow up.

So he has to live up to your definition of what an adult is.

I think he likes his definition just fine.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

so you see a similarity between a show centered around current events and informing the audience of world events and a comedy about eccentric people

cookoo. cookoo.
What does the type of show have to do with anything?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Yes I have. They may continue the show or maybe not.

They are talking to A&E right now. A&E will decide which is better for them.

they have been bothered by the decision, which is completely opposite of how you characterized their response.

so if you read it, and still ****ed it up, what's your malfunction exactly?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

So how did Phil's answer to GQ, "Damage the brand"? Oh, and it is not A&E's brand....It's Phil's.
Um, A&E (or whoever produces the show and has the hiring contract on said cast member) has full power to hold said cast member to WHATEVER said cast member agreed to in the contract. This is standard stuff. If the corporation determines damage has been done, it is their prerogative to terminate the contract....and cast member can hire a lawyer and fight the termination.

If you want to know what the contractor found that damaged the brand, ask them.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

ok then dont. but we still arent discussing the bible in this thread.

Speak for yourself. The whole basis for the story is Phil Robertson quoting the Bible (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) and saying that homosexuality is a sin.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Yeah, well what you're failing to notice are the differences between the two cases that make them nothing like one another. It's not even apples and oranges, it apples and spaceships.

Interesting spin.

Both are idiots who made stupid comments that ended up getting them pulled from their respective networks. No real difference.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

What does the type of show have to do with anything?

the same reason comedy central shouldn't be held to the same standard as fox news..

not to mention, Bashir said what he said on the show itself. making it completely different events. so different only a partisan hack would attempt to link them.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

they have been bothered by the decision, which is completely opposite of how you characterized their response.

so if you read it, and still ****ed it up, what's your malfunction exactly?

I think you need to read it again.

Do you not know what a press release is?

Do they seemed concerned about the show in that press release?

They are disappointed Phil was suspended for his comments on his beliefs, but where do you get they are concerned about the gay community being up in arms?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Maybe you're confusing your homos. It could well be that those who are "proud of their sin" are simply trying to let others now that there is no shame in being Gay. Maybe only Gay Christians are guilt ridden and stuck hiding their sexuality----seems to me the Rev Ted haggard fits that mold.

Plenty of people promoting open-marriages out there.

Hey, if you'd like a thread on "the Bible and shacking up" I'll be glad to participate. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (the same verse that Phil Robertson quoted for homosexual sin) applies to that also.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Speak for yourself. The whole basis for the story is Phil Robertson quoting the Bible (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) and saying that homosexuality is a sin.

He went further than that. You're either spinning or you don't know the facts. But, your post is not the whole truth.

Here's the direct quote:
“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical…Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”
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It's just a stupid pointless rant. I prefer a vagina over an anus too. But so the F what? IMO, he's an idiot.
 
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sure, they can have them. but courts aren't going to enforce them.
You are talking about private contract law in civil court, not federal civil rights. No one forces you to agree to a contract, if the contract says your making homophobic comments breaks the contract...well there you are. Your "rights" were never violated, you were free to say ANYTHING you wanted....BUT.....that in no way stops a private contract from being terminated.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Interesting spin.

Both are idiots who made stupid comments that ended up getting them pulled from their respective networks. No real difference.

No spin, you're somehow invested in making a false equivilence and thus will ignore any reality that gets in your way. Bashir was a political commentator that went ape**** on the air railing personally against a political figure. Phil is a comedic reality show star who gave an interview to a magazine and expressed his religious beliefs. These things are nothing whatsoever like one another.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

You are talking about private contract law in civil court, not federal civil rights. No one forces you to agree to a contract, if the contract says your making homophobic comments breaks the contract...well there you are. Your "rights" were never violated, you were free to say ANYTHING you wanted....BUT.....that in no way stops a private contract from being terminated.

homophobic remarks aren't protected under the civil rights act of 1964.

in term of employment, the employer does not have the same rights as he does in private affairs.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I think you need to read it again.

Do you not know what a press release is?

Do they seemed concerned about the show in that press release?

They are disappointed Phil was suspended for his comments on his beliefs, but where do you get they are concerned about the gay community being up in arms?

I'm sure the family prays for things that mean very little to them

/snicker.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

No spin, you're somehow invested in making a false equivilence and thus will ignore any reality that gets in your way. Bashir was a political commentator that went ape**** on the air railing personally against a political figure. Phil is a comedic reality show star who gave an interview to a magazine and expressed his religious beliefs. These things are nothing whatsoever like one another.

Nonsense. You're splitting hairs.

He said this, it got him tossed off the show.

That sentence applies to both participants. You just like what Duck Boy said about gays better than the Brit's comments about Sister Sarah.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

homophobic remarks aren't protected under the civil rights act of 1964.
Non-sequitur...I never said they were. Hate speech is not protected speech. Yelling fire in a theater is not protected speech.......so what? That has nothing to do with private contracts.

in term of employment, the employer does not have the same rights as he does in private affairs.
Uh...whut? Contracts can and do have all sort of conduct clauses.

You just are not understanding this.....at all.
 
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Hey, if you'd like a thread on "the Bible and shacking up" I'll be glad to participate. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (the same verse that Phil Robertson quoted for homosexual sin) applies to that also.

Show me where the words Phil used appear in the Bible.
“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical…Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”
I'd love to see that quote. :lol:
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Non-sequitur...I never said they were. Hate speech is not protected speech. Yelling fire in a theater is not protected speech.......so what? That has nothing to do with private contracts.

Uh...whut? Contracts can and do have all sort of conduct clauses.

You just are not understanding this.....at all.


this isn't simply a private contract. this is a contract for employment, which does have higher standards.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Their news sources peddle in outrage...not common sense or consistency.

Oh irony.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Nonsense. You're splitting hairs.

He said this, it got him tossed off the show.

That sentence applies to both participants. You just like what Duck Boy said about gays better than the Brit's comments about Sister Sarah.

It's true, I agree with what Phil said more than I condone what Bashir said. But you haven't been paying attention if you think I'm any fan at all of Palin. In fact that shows just how wrong you are. You made an assumption that anyone who has ever read my posts about Plain knows is false.

That you can't see the difference between the two is on you and obviously due to your own misguided bias.
 
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this isn't simply a private contract. this is a contract for employment, which does have higher standards.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point....instead of these weak "facts" and non-sequiturs.


The fact is, Ducky broke his contract by opening his big, bigoted mouth. His rights are intact...he is just going to be a bit poorer.

Poor Ducky.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I wouldn't be surprised if this whole deal is just a way to maintain and exceed ratings. I'm that jaded.

My Prediction: The show carries on, and people will watch more, not less. This show is a cash cow with the minimum of production costs. He ain't going anywhere and the show ain't going anywhere. The episode when he returns will break their old record. This more about the almighty dollar rather than the Almighty himself.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Show me where the words Phil used appear in the Bible.

I'd love to see that quote. :lol:

He paraphrased from 1 Corinthians 6:9-10: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I'm still waiting for you to make a point....instead of these weak "facts" and non-sequiturs.


The fact is, Ducky broke his contract by opening his big, bigoted mouth. His rights are intact...he is just going to be a bit poorer.

Poor Ducky.

hahaha. so you have seen the contract?

man. the way some of you quickly start lying and making **** up when your debate goes south is rich

ps - it is a fact that contracts for employment have higher standards then other private contracts. you missed that point
 
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