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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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NIMBY said:
Are you bucking for moderator?
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I'm not fit for public service.

People can't even admit they're wrong to you??
**** or get off the pot with your whining .
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Mr.Nick said:
Degrading their lifestyle does not help at all...

Who cares if homosexuality even is a sin? are you Jesus?

Where does it say in the bible another's sin falls on you?

If these people are sinning then they can take that up with their maker.

Also, don't think that because I take this position that I'm not opposed to gay marriage - I am personally/morally.... I don't think homosexuality should be mainstreamed either (my reasons for that are unique to say the least)....
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Evangelical Christians take the command to go and spread God's word pretty seriously. They take years out of their career to go trek through the Amazon jungle to spread the word. You are supposed to preach the Gospel and teach what sin is to give your fellow man the direction to salvation. All Phil Robertson was doing was saying what Biblical sins are.

I'm not evangelical (I'm Catholic) but it's not hard to understand that evangelicals are simply stating what is there in the Bible, and no Evangelicals I know will claim that they themselves are without there own litany of sins that they REALLY want to do but don't.

That is also why I think the American left REALLY misread the Pope's comments from a month ago. The Pope still believes homosexuality is a sin, it just happens that everyone is a sinner so there is no reason to single out gays. In the end he believes that gays will have to atone for their sins just as anyone else who committed a sin and remained unrepentant.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Who is advocating legislation here...

You progressives act like opposition to an idea automatically translates that person into someone that would support a law against that idea - when that is not even remotely the case.
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Well usually when you are against something, you very well may support a low against that idea.

Also, it's cute that you think I'm a progressive.
 
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jmotivator said:
Evangelical Christians take the command to go and spread God's word pretty seriously. They take years out of their career to go trek through the Amazon jungle to spread the word. You are supposed to preach the Gospel and teach what sin is to give your fellow man the direction to salvation. All Phil Robertson was doing was saying what Biblical sins are.

I'm not evangelical (I'm Catholic) but it's not hard to understand that evangelicals are simply stating what is there in the Bible, and no Evangelicals I know will claim that they themselves are without there own litany of sins that they REALLY want to do but don't.

That is also why I think the American left REALLY misread the Pope's comments from a month ago. The Pope still believes homosexuality is a sin, it just happens that everyone is a sinner so there is no reason to single out gays. In the end he believes that gays will have to atone for their sins just as anyone else who committed a sin and remained unrepentant.
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What do the brown people from the ME and North Africa or Africa in general do?

Is your argument against Christianity or religion in general?
 
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CriticalThought said:
This...



I'm not sure how a law that would prohibit discrimination in hiring and employment on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity by employers is in any way a threat to anybody's 1st amendment rights.
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For me to support such a bill it would have to protect 1st Amendment rights, as well.
 
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How do you folks like being preached to and condemned by another born-Againer who sinned all his life by his own admission??Just another phony Palin who jumped to his defense right away..I can see why these sinners are afraid of their maker and speak out like this .
 
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Mr. Invisible said:
Well usually when you are against something, you very well may support a low against that idea.

Also, it's cute that you think I'm a progressive.
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I don't understand...
 
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apdst said:
For me to support such a bill it would have to protect 1st Amendment rights, as well.
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That is weird. I'm not sure how a law is going to protect right that are guaranteed by the Constitution. You seem to be coming up with a lot of excuses not to support ENDA so I will put you down for a "maybe" for now.
 
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CriticalThought said:
That is weird. I'm not sure how a law is going to protect right that are guaranteed by the Constitution. You seem to be coming up with a lot of excuses not to support ENDA so I will put you down for a "maybe" for now.
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Doesn't look like Williams, Brashir, or Robertson had much protection.
 
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It was a business decision by A&E to hire him and give them a show, it is simply a business decision to get rid of him. I thought business should be allowed to hire and fire at will...
 
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Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Since DUCK actually played ahead of Terry Bradshaw at QB for the 1967 season, before quitting in 1968,
I wonder if you won't hear Bradshaw defend him, just not on his NFL TV broadcasts .
 
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Did you defend Bashir?
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Doesn't look like Williams, Brashir, or Robertson had much protection.
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From someone who has an opposing viewpoint to myself, I find this mans' response to be worthwhile reading.

...For the record, I’m undecided on whether or not I think Phil actually is homophobic, although I certainly think his statement was offensive, and not only to the LGBT community. But I also think that if I were to spend a day calling ducks with Phil, I’d probably end up liking him—even in spite of his position on gay men. It’s quite possible to throw one’s political support behind traditional, heterosexual marriage, and yet not be bigoted.

I’m reminded of something Bill Maher said during the height of the Paula Deen controversy: “Do we always have to make people go away?” I think the question applies in this situation, too.

Why is our go-to political strategy for beating our opponents to silence them? Why do we dismiss, rather than engage them? One of the biggest pop culture icons of today just took center stage to “educate” us about sexuality. I see this as an opportunity to further the discussion, to challenge his limited understanding of human desire, to engage with him and his rather sizeable audience—most of whom, by the way, probably share his views—and to rise above the endless sea of tweet-hate to help move our LGBT conversations to where they need to go.

GK Chesterton said that bigotry is “an incapacity to conceive seriously the alternative to a proposition.” If he is right—and he usually is—then I wonder if the Duck Dynasty fiasco says more about our bigotry than Phil’s....
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NIMBY said:
Did you defend Bashir?
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I didn't comment on Bashir's canning, but I don't believe he should have been sacked.
 
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cpwill said:
From someone who has an opposing viewpoint to myself, I find this mans' response to be worthwhile reading.
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Libbos are the biggest bigots in the world. They're totally intolerent of anyone who isn't in lockstep with them.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Degrading their lifestyle does not help at all...

Who cares if homosexuality even is a sin? are you Jesus?

Where does it say in the bible anothers sin falls on you?

If these people are sinning then they can take that up with their maker.
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Have you never read the Bible, Mr. Nick?

From Ezekiel chapter 33: “ When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved."

But stay quiet, and evil will abound:

“The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to (say and) do nothing.” – Edmund Burke
 
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poweRob said:
I await your outrage over Martin Bashir's job being taken away.
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Bashir was suspended, but his job was still there.

He decided to quit.

Nobody took his job from him.
 
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CriticalThought said:
He is free to express his opinion and make millions doing it no matter who he offends. By contrast, I am not even free to acknowledge at work that I have a boyfriend of 3 years and I have to lie at work when I am asked about whether or not I have a significant other because I could easily be fired. So yeah, I am comparing an asshole expressing his opinion to "work place discrimination" because he certainly has a lot more freedom than I do.
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Why would you want to work at a place like that?
 
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NIMBY said:
As I said, FOX is leading with Duck and free speech, just after their usual bash on ACA, gov't, and the phoniness of Fox's high-and-mighty attitude about secularism..And Bill-O must repeat three times his bash on ACA for his lemmings..Can I be rude O'Reilly interrupts Carville in his first response?
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Why are you watching Fox if you obviously can't understand much of what they say.
 
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poweRob said:
I watched Martin Bashir once. He annoyed the ever-living piss out of me. I didn't even finish watching his segment. I think it's a boon for MSNBC to have canned him... even aside from the factual comment about how a slave owner had his slaves defacate in another slaves mouth. He's a provocative idiot. Calling modern punditry journalism would be the flaw of your question. IMO, comparing Martin Bashir to that duck guy is pretty fair because I think that Martin Bashir probably has about the same level of integrity and class as that guy.
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Please tell us why you think Phil Robertson has no integrity?

And once again Bashir quit.
 
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I read the quote and he seems to lump homosexuals with adulterers and womanizers(or is that the same thing). The problem is the gay community is much more organized than the adulterer community, so they can get a call to action going much easier.
 
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Logicman said:
Have you never read the Bible, Mr. Nick?

From Ezekiel chapter 33: “ When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved."

But stay quiet, and evil will abound:

“The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to (say and) do nothing.” – Edmund Burke
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And what is so evil about people loving each other?

In fact... sod it, your "holy" book is not the ground funderment upon which the laws of the land are based.

And therefor I can chose to ignore the rules set up 3000 years ago by a savage, semi-illiterate, nomadic middle eastern tribe.
 
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