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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

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calamity said:
One of the good ones on A&E that I haven't seen in a while is "Billy the Exterminator". I really liked that show but, like everything else, after a while, it gets too repetitive.
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That guy is eccentric but cool...

I used to watch Intervention and The First 48 but lost interest.

Way too depressing for me.
 
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NIMBY said:
These channels have great stuff on top tens--like any type of gun, ship, tank, rifle, SAM, ICBM, etc..

Cool stuff on serial killers, mobsters, drug dealers, nazi scientists, nazi hunters, nazis and aliens,
war in the pacific, battle of the bulge, preppers-Ventura-like..

They do have some pretty good "real" science though .
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They used to have a top 10 with Mike Roe on the History Channel.

At any rate if you enjoy "top 10's" check these sites out:

Top 10 Lists - Listverse
Cracked.com - America's Only Humor Site | Cracked.com
www.toptenz.net.

I'm a junky for that stuff..
 
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Verax said:
Yes I am talking **** now, do I really care if I offend someone? This issue is not about me being an asshole is it? It is about the Duck man spewing hate speech and then ARealConservative felt people hating on Duck man in retaliation was some kind of equal travesty that exonerates the Duckmaster of any wrongdoing???

The logic some of you display is terrifyingly bizarre. You twist and twist until its hard to even make sense of anything anymore.
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I'm pleased you are comfortable with your own hypocrisy
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
He didn't draw a comparison between them, he including them under the broad catagory of 'sins" Just like "crimes" exist as a broad catagory, hence citing "tax evasion" and "murder" in comparison.
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I read it, hence why your attempt to use "tax evasion" and "murder" as examples seemed pretty ludicrous since both of those crimes cause harm. It would have made more sense had you tried to list a crime that does not cause harm if you are going to compare it to this situation. At it is, you clearly don't understand why people would find it insulting.
 
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Caine said:
Not when they are being compared in the PROPER ****ING CONTEXT.

He was talking about S I N

Which all three have in common, being sins.
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As I said before, he threw in homosexuality, something that does not cause harm, in with things that do. If I say Republicans are like Nazis and Fascists and I don't approve of any of them, then it doesn't matter whether I meant they all fall under the same category of "political". I am clearly comparing one to the others as if they are the same.
 
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Mason66 said:
Do you think the only punishment is related to the Constitution?

He was removed from the show and if the show continues, where will he be when it is being filmed.

They have, or are trying to, kick him out of his family.
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People are talking about his "free speech" being abrogated. That is not the case. He was, and is still, free to speak his mind. A&E has the freedom to not have him on their channel if they don't want speech like that on their network. People who disagree with his point of view are free to say that as well.

None of which is taking away his rights or being "intolerant."

Nobody has the right to consequence-free speech. I may have the legal right to not like Japanese people, but I might get fired if I say it because the company I work for is owned by a Japanese corporation. (I have no problem with the Japanese, by the way. It's an example). It's still my right to say whatever I want to say.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
My experience is most Christians regularly sin but only care about the sins which allow them judge others. I'm not really all that interested in watching someone throw a stone from a glass house.
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You wouldn't have liked John the Baptist or even Jesus, then (Luke 13:3).
 
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CriticalThought said:
I read it, hence why your attempt to use "tax evasion" and "murder" as examples seemed pretty ludicrous since both of those crimes cause harm.
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Your issue is with that? I would say the clear distinction between murder and tax evasion is pretty evident to the majority of people reading my post.

It would have made more sense had you tried to list a crime that does not cause harm if you are going to compare it to this situation.
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No, my examples were perfectly fine in showing how categories like "sin" and "crime" are rather broad.

At it is, you clearly don't understand why people would find it insulting.
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No, I understand why people find it insulting, that doesn't mean their position has any real merit to it. Get over it, some people just disagree with your life choices, just like I am sure you disagree with those of others. That's life, learn to suck it up and stop being so touchy about some bible-thumping redneck saying things anyone would expect from a bible-thumping redneck.

Also, it doesn't help when you adopt some blatantly false reading of the remarks to justify your outrage. In fact, it simply makes you and your agenda seem like the petty bickering of a spoiled child, as opposed to an individual seeking legitimate recognition for a perfectly justifiable state of existence
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Your issue is with that? I would say the clear distinction between murder and tax evasion is pretty evident to the majority of people reading my post.



No, my examples were perfectly fine in showing how categories like "sin" and "crime" are rather broad.



No, I understand why people find it insulting, that doesn't mean their position has any real merit to it. Get over it, some people just disagree with your life choices, just like I am sure you disagree with those of others. That's life, learn to suck it up and stop being so touchy about some bible-thumping redneck saying things anyone would expect from a bible-thumping redneck.

Also, it doesn't help when you adopt some blatantly false reading of the remarks to justify your outrage. In fact, it simply makes you and your agenda seem like the petty bickering of a spoiled child, as opposed to an individual seeking legitimate recognition for a perfectly justifiable state of existence
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He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.

That is the impact of his words. You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact. And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said. You can choose to be respectful if you don't agree with homosexuality. He chose to be disrespectful.
 
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Hatuey said:
Actually, they're not in agreement with me at all. A&E/TLC have gotten rich off stereotypes. Same goes for History. It's absolutely disgusting that these channels have no interest in actually living up to their name. I actually prefer Nazi-crazy History channel long before the new "living history" History Channel. It's sad.
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Oh man, I used to love the learning channel back when it played shows like connections and the human animal. The same with A&E, they probably introduced me to non-mainstream movies and off beat comedy like their various improv series
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Oh man, I used to love the learning channel back when it played shows like connections and the human animal. The same with A&E, they probably introduced me to non-mainstream movies and off beat comedy like their various improv series
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Agreed, I found Connections fascinating.
 
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CriticalThought said:
He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.
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Again, is pointing out that both tax evasion and murder are crimes equating them? No, it clearly isn't, so stop peddling the bull****.

That is the impact of his words.
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Well that's how he and many other people interpret the bible. So what? Are you even religious, and if not who cares?


You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact.
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Again, no one needs to condone or approve of your life style choices.


And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said.
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As I pointed out in the beginning all that accomplishes is hurting your agenda, because then you create the perception you're going to force acceptance on people. All that does is foster and invigorate resistance towards a general acceptance, as with abortion and RvsW.

Just look at how that stupid boycott of chick-a-fila played out
 
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CriticalThought said:
He is entitled to his beliefs. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin. But if you are going to sit there and argue because I am gay that I am the definition of sin, that I am as bad as a "swindler" and am condemned to hell, and that my relationship is "not logical", then I have a right to take offense to it.

That is the impact of his words. You can try to interpret it differently and insist that others need to interpret it the way you do, but that does not change the impact. And if you and him don't give a crap about how other people feel, then fine. That is your problem. But don't sit around acting all surprised when people are not too sympathetic about whatever consequences he faces for what he said. You can choose to be respectful if you don't agree with homosexuality. He chose to be disrespectful.
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Actually, all that is YOUR problem. He wasn't being disrepectful at all, he simply spoke his belief that is firmly based in his religion, a religion and belief shared by perhaps the majority of the people in this nation. He didn't speak of hating the sinner, just the opposite. It was one very small group with a disproportionately large voice who found what he said to be disrespectful.

Life must be an ongoing series of open wounds for those folks.
 
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WCH said:
The truth hurts.
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But it isn't the truth because a number of countries have legalized SSM and they are no closer to legalizing beastiality or pedophilia.
 
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CriticalThought said:
As I said before, he threw in homosexuality, something that does not cause harm, in with things that do. If I say Republicans are like Nazis and Fascists and I don't approve of any of them, then it doesn't matter whether I meant they all fall under the same category of "political". I am clearly comparing one to the others as if they are the same.
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but no such comparison happened
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Again, is pointing out that both tax evasion and murder are crimes equating them? No, it clearly isn't, so stop peddling the bull****.



Well that's how he and many other people interpret the bible. So what? Are you even religious, and if not who cares?




Again, no one needs to condone or approve of your life style choices.




As I pointed out in the beginning all that accomplishes is hurting your agenda, because then you create the perception you're going to force acceptance on people. All that does is foster and invigorate resistance towards a general acceptance, as with abortion and RvsW.

Just look at how that stupid boycott of chick-a-fila played out
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You are not even listening, which makes this discussion all the more pointless. Jeez, I wonder if there is a poster who stated something exactly to the same effect that you just posted?

CriticalThought said:
He is not hurting. There is a Facebook group of people who support him who are buying the Duck Commander brand and boycotting A&E and it already has 660,000 followers. These kinds of actions tend to have a Chick-Fil-A response and he will probably make millions off of it.
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And I only posted that like 6 hours ago. As I said, you are free to interpret what he said however you wish. I found it disrespectful. I can't even come out at my job without having to worry about getting fired and he can pretty much tell everyone he believes I am going to hell and he will likely make a fortune for doing it and be a conservative media darling for the next decade. None of that is lost on me.
 
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Our society is doomed..
 
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Are the usual rightie suspects around here defending a civil rights-denier and a gay-basher??We know Palin has weighed in supporting the 1st amendment when it fits her mouth..Still waiting for Rush and Fox to weigh in..Bill O'RaceBait is up at the top of the hour..Duck all of you .
 
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Logicman said:
You wouldn't have liked John the Baptist or even Jesus, then (Luke 13:3).
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I wouldn't have liked them because I recognize Christians sin on a regular basis, but only care about religious sins when it allows them to control someone else's life? That doesn't make sense.
 
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CriticalThought said:
You are not even listening, which makes this discussion all the more pointless.
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I am listening, you just don't like what I am writing

Jeez, I wonder if there is a poster who stated something exactly to the same effect that you just posted?
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Why would I be familiar with every post in a 500 post thread?



And I only posted that like 6 hours ago. As I said, you are free to interpret what he said however you wish. I found it disrespectful. I can't even come out at my job without having to worry about getting fired and he can pretty much tell everyone he believes I am going to hell and he will likely make a fortune for doing it and be a conservative media darling for the next decade. None of that is lost on me.
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are you seriously equating some asshole expressing his opinion to work place discrimination?
 
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CriticalThought said:
In your opinion.
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No, there was no such comparison made. he listed things he thought were sins, a overly broad catagory like "crime"
 
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NIMBY said:
Are the usual rightie suspects around here defending a civil rights-denier and a gay-basher??
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how can some guy giving an interview deny people their civil rights?
 
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