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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Of course not. You seem to be having trouble distinguishing differences today. There is a difference between resigning and being fired.

People are often given the option to resign instead of being fired. You can't possibly be serious in following this obtuse line of argument. Everyone knows Brashir was forced to resign. Sheesh, you Righties are a trip.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Pressure and threats from GLAAD and HRC.

it's all speculation.

some people act in economic interests. some want to be liked. some act on principals, even if it means not being liked.

some are stupid, and they do one of the above, but get it wrong.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Pressure and threats from GLAAD and HRC.
Oh...wait....do you have PROOF? Internal memos....showing that "threats...allow A&E to suspend?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

You tell us, you're the one asserting to have the knowledge. And no, not all contracts have what you call "personal contract clauses".

dude should change his username to "Ican'thandlethetruth"
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Well, let's face it, half the outrage isn't his comments, but rather his religion. If he was a Muslim, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I think at least a third of the outrage comes from the perception he's a uneducated, back-water hick, something the elitist Left can't stomach. 8)
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I think at least a third of the outrage comes from the perception he's a uneducated, back-water hick, something the elitist Left can't stomach. 8)

part of it is that the left can't stand to see an uneducated, back-water kick that is a self-made millionaire, instead of living in a shack being dependent on the gubbermint. His example threatens their agenda.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I would call getting someone fired from their job....intolerance.

Truth is Gays don't like being shown their flaws.

How is this one different from Paula Dean's firing from the Food Network - racist or bigot....all the same!
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

People are often given the option to resign instead of being fired. You can't possibly be serious in following this obtuse line of argument. Everyone knows Brashir was forced to resign. Sheesh, you Righties are a trip.

And do you know why they are offerred that option? Because there's a difference between resigning and being fired.

I'm not arguing anything, just reminding you that you can't play fast and loose with the facts without getting called on it.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

sure they exist. I signed one for my current job. fact is, you have no idea what is or is not in his contract with A&E. you were talking out your ass and now you are embarrassed because you've been caught with your pants down and can't back it up.
LOL....YOU signed one.....yet you want to speculate.....that Ducky did not!

Go away.




I have no idea. I'm not the one who made any claims about it.
You are speculating that I am incorrect...even while you confirm the common use of the very thing I believe is at hand.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Not really. It's a thought association. It automatically throws that particular sin in with the others. However, homosexuality has become associated with only some *certain* sins, sins which the speakers happens to proclaim to not violate. It's a way of lumping together, say, pedophilia, bestiality, or rape.

If you want to practice this, all you have to do is subtract a few key ingredients and put in others. "Gun owners are part of a national sickness like racism, rape, and murder."

Wrong. You are attempting to grade or rank sins, by noting that some are more serious (also criminal acts) than others, and then accusing him of not comparing the severity of sins when he was simply listing some of them. I may say that crimes include trespass, arson, jaywalking and murder yet that is not implying, in any way, that all crimes should have the same sentence or that I have listed all crimes. Just as all sins are not crimes, all crimes are not sins - there is overlap but that is not relevant to discussion of either sin or crime.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

dude should change his username to "Ican'thandlethetruth"
Ooooh....original.

Now you speculate on truth.....how ironic.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I haven't read all of these posts but did do a slight Google on Duck..

Dude started ahead of Terry Bradshaw at Louisiana Tech before quitting football
after his sophomore year to focus on hunting..Many pro scouts though he had a career..

Then he had his difficult decade..
Choices--we all live with the aftermath of our choices .
I think at least a third of the outrage comes from the perception he's a uneducated, back-water hick, something the elitist Left can't stomach. 8)
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I think at least a third of the outrage comes from the perception he's a uneducated, back-water hick, something the elitist Left can't stomach. 8)

Exactly! Another part of the reason that the hitman doing the interview, because he KNEW what Robertson was going to say.

It was a set-up from the git-go.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

How is this one different from Paula Dean's firing from the Food Network - racist or bigot....all the same!

As I recall Paula Deen committed her behavior on her show, at her job. Not to mention there was (again as I recall) illegality in what she did, wasn't she being sued?
 
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And do you know why they are offerred that option? Because there's a difference between resigning and being fired.

I'm not arguing anything, just reminding you that you can't play fast and loose with the facts without getting called on it.

I don't recall saying he was fired. What I said was that he was "dumped" and "let go". Being forced to resign qualifies.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Wrong. You are attempting to grade or rank sins, by noting that some are more serious (also criminal acts) than others, and then accusing him of not comparing the severity of sins when he was simply listing some of them. I may say that crimes include trespass, arson, jaywalking and murder yet that is not implying, in any way, that all crimes should have the same sentence or that I have listed all crimes. Just as all sins are not crimes, all crimes are not sins - there is overlap but that is not relevant to discussion of either sin or crime.

I've heard this "sins are equal" line. It's mostly cute, but I do not believe you will find a single person that literally approaches the problem this way. All you have to do is find one instance where he expresses the thought that one is higher than the other, and the system crumbles.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I don't recall saying he was fired. What I said was that he was "dumped" and "let go". Being forced to resign qualifies.

Post 883 for one, then you went on in several others about how he was "let go".

calamity said:
Both are outrageous comments that got them fired. I at least agree both are outrageous comments that should get them fired. You, not so much, preferring to fire the person making the comment you did not like while preserving the job of the guy who said what you do like. That defines hypocrisy.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

LOL....YOU signed one.....yet you want to speculate.....that Ducky did not!

what part of "all contracts are not the same" is too complex for you to understand? there is nothing in my contract that prevents me from giving interviews. the only thing my contract prohibits is releasing propriatary information


you're the one crying about it. take your ball and go home if you don't like.

You are speculating that I am incorrect...

I'm not speculating on anything. merely pointing out that you made a claim that you cannot back up

even while you confirm the common use of the very thing I believe is at hand.

and again...not all contracts are identical.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Ooooh....original.

Now you speculate on truth.....how ironic.

again...I am not the one making claims that I cannot backup
 
let's not bring theology into the debate.

as an athiest, the debate would center around the terms knowledge and religion, and how they don't relate

I took theology out of the debate.

Couldn't a person with a logical mind come to the conclusion that those things were not wise for people to partake in?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

I've heard this "sins are equal" line. It's mostly cute, but I do not believe you will find a single person that literally approaches the problem this way. All you have to do is find one instance where he expresses the thought that one is higher than the other, and the system crumbles.

What are you talking about? Nobody said that sins are equal, just as nobody said that crimes are equal. The argument that you, and others, are attempting to make is that because Phil Robertson listed some sins including homosexual acts, swindling and adultery in a single sentence that they are being somehow equated in severity. That is the logical fallacy that I am pointing out and objecting to. To assert that because he left out murder, in his sin examples, then he must not consider it a sin is equally insane.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Post 883 for one, then you went on in several others about how he was "let go".

Well, Phil wasn't technically "fired" either. Or was he?

The results though are the same. So...whatevs.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

How is this one different from Paula Dean's firing from the Food Network - racist or bigot....all the same!

Having religious beliefs makes one a bigot...I see.

That would be 'your' opinion.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

What are you talking about? Nobody said that sins are equal, just as nobody said that crimes are equal. The argument that you, and others, are attempting to make is that because Phil Robertson listed some sins including homosexual acts, swindling and adultery in a single sentence that they are being somehow equated in severity. That is the logical fallacy that I am pointing out and objecting to. To assert that because he left out murder, in his sin examples, then he must not consider it a sin is equally insane.

Most honest people know what he was trying to do. When people say that statement, they somehow keep pointing to the same exact "sins" and do so out of proportion to their evil. If the man had said homosexuality is part of a national sickness which includes being cranky with your neighbor, the implication may be that homosexuality isn't so bad. It's a rhetorical device meant to demonstrate how much the person despises homosexuality, and to what awful extent God bars you from the Kingdom.
 
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