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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E (W: 742)

Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Mr. Invisible is from New Jersey, and WCH you're from Texas?

Bestiality is legal in both New Jersey and Texas.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Of course, you can't marry an animal.

Might pedophilia be next?

Regardless this planet is sinking into a pit of tolerating just about anything in the name of political correctness. There will come a day to pay for these indiscretions.
 
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Which means you are guessing that his contract does not have personal conduct clauses....but....you accepted that Ellen does.

Ellen was introduced to see if people would be in favor of the network firing her for coming out with a reverse stance.

let's break this down:

You ~ I know for a fact he violated his contract

me ~ you have seen the contract?

you ~ no. why? have you?

me ~ shakes head. turns attention to someone more deserving.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Then why insist on condeming homosexuals when the old testament is obsolete?

The moral laws have never changed. Adultery is still a sin, so is murder, lying, thievery, and homosexual sex.

Then why act like a Talbian and see it as a crime in the real world?

Your Taliban analogies are sophomoric. Did somebody get beheaded?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

First of all, Phil never said that homosexuality was "like" Bestiality. Also, I think that what Bashir said of Palin is so much worse than what Phil Robertson said, it isn't even on the same plain of thinking.

He did say, however, that society suffers from the same nihilist plague, of which homosexuality, bestiality and adultery belong.
 
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Taken in it's proper context, Brashir simply suggested that Palin had no idea how horrible slavery was as an institution, and that if she really thinks it is nothing more than the national Debt, maybe someone should give her a Darby Treatment.

May I take it by your minimization that you agree, or at least think that there was nothing wrong with him graphically describing someone ****ting, and pissing in Palin's mouth? How disgusting.

Similarly, Phil said ***** beats ass, and anyone who doesn't buy into that is well on their way to ****ing a duck.

He absolutely did NOT say that. This is an outright fabrication.

Both are outrageous comments that got them fired. I at least agree both are outrageous comments that should get them fired.

Bashir was never fired. He went on at MSLSD for 2 weeks, and resigned.

Both are outrageous comments that got them fired. I at least agree both are outrageous comments that should get them fired.

When you get the comment right first, then you can argue whether or not A&E made the right move. But so far you are not accurately portraying what it was that Phil Robertson said in his answer to the question.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

It "morphing" into other stuff. He has these wild fantasies about homosexuality, yet you claim he doesn't want to know anything about it.
Pretty good at wild fantasy yourself.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

He did say, however, that society suffers from the same nihilist plague, of which homosexuality, bestiality and adultery belong.

On a side note, those (and more) are exactly what happens when you overpopulate a rat enclosure (while keeping a steady source of food/water). :mrgreen:
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

He did say, however, that society suffers from the same nihilist plague, of which homosexuality, bestiality and adultery belong.

and that viewpoint isn't something that a huge population of Christians in this country share?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

All this talk about bestiality and homosexuality. He never said they are the same thing. He said he views them both as sins. Thats like me saying tofu and steak are the same because people eat them. They aren't.
 
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and that viewpoint isn't something that a huge population of Christians in this country share?

Absolutely. Does not mean much though. There's plenty of opinions that are absolutely shameful that the masses latch on to.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Pretty good at wild fantasy yourself.

I've done things most only dream of. How is this on topic?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

He did say, however, that society suffers from the same nihilist plague, of which homosexuality, bestiality and adultery belong.

Ok...So? That is not equating the two directly, that is speaking of the selfish manner of man right? To come in here and say that Phil said that homosexuality was akin to "****ing a duck" as someone has on this very board, is a lie. You just confirmed it.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

1. First of all, Phil never said that homosexuality was "like" Bestiality. 2. Also, I think that what Bashir said of Palin is so much worse than what Phil Robertson said, it isn't even on the same plain of thinking.
1. When you say this: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”
The differences between "morph" and "like" aren't really relevant. Unless you want to split hairs. In which case, I can argue that what he said is worse.

2. Of course you do. I expect no different.
 
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and that viewpoint isn't something that a huge population of Christians in this country share?

Not trying to be insulting here, but just how the hell would you know? You speak for all Christians now?
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

May I take it by your minimization that you agree, or at least think that there was nothing wrong with him graphically describing someone ****ting, and pissing in Palin's mouth? How disgusting.



He absolutely did NOT say that. This is an outright fabrication.



Bashir was never fired. He went on at MSLSD for 2 weeks, and resigned.



When you get the comment right first, then you can argue whether or not A&E made the right move. But so far you are not accurately portraying what it was that Phil Robertson said in his answer to the question.

I agreed with MSNBC's decision to get rid of Brashir. I already said that.
 
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Ellen was introduced to see if people would be in favor of the network firing her for coming out with a reverse stance.
The question is not about IF she would have her contract terminated......the question was HOW a corporation could terminate the contract. The point still stands that a corporation almost always has personal conduct clauses with its contract actors.....giving them the right to terminate said contract.

I hve no idea why you think you can turn our debate into something else.

let's break this down:

You ~ I know for a fact he violated his contract
Absolutely false, I never said I know for a fact such a clause exists in his contract.....BUT.....I would be VERY surprised if it did not. As i keep trying to convince you, IT IS A VERY COMMON CLAUSE INCLUDED THESE DAYS, IT IS STANDARD ISSUE.

me ~ you have seen the contract?

you ~ no. why? have you?

me ~ shakes head. turns attention to someone more deserving.
You were all about the "how" of terminating a contract, and agreed with me when I said it would be the same for the Ducky or Ellen.

Now you want to move on.....fine by me.....I would too if I were in your shoes.
 
I think the real irony on this story that nobody has said is that the new unwritten rule of Christianity is don't ask, don't tell.

you Christians can keep your backwards beliefs in regards to homosexuality. that's your right. you just can't tell anyone about them anymore.

:lamo

and i'm sorry to laugh at you, because I think it's bad policy and only further divides people. but that is exactly how this is beginning to play out.

but as an atheist, I would be lying if I didn't say a part of me doesn't kind of like to see it. It's like the smoking bans that went on. I disagreed, I fought vocally against it, but it helped me personally.
 
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1. When you say this: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”
The differences between "morph" and "like" aren't really relevant. Unless you want to split hairs. In which case, I can argue that what he said is worse.

He was saying that these things are all sins, not that they are all the same...Good grief...Yours is a perfect example of how GLAAD distorted this.

2. Of course you do. I expect no different.

Oh and you don't? Really? That speaks volumes.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

You misunderstand. I did not call the performers on the show IDIOTS. My reference to the film IDIOCRACY was its central theme was the degradation of American culture - the IDIOCRACY became the masses of Americans who lost all sense of intelligence, taste and other positive assets. I believe this show is indicative of that sad trend and I would add t he Kardashians, the Housewives, Honey Boo, and lots of other reality shows to it.

As to your comment about them being rich and I am not - I am doing very well thank you. And their income means nothing to me either way and in no way shape or from indicates the quality of their show or product.

If money is all that is important there are some women who work nights near a truck stop that I sometimes gassed up at coming home late from the legislature and based on what they said they wanted - they must have taken in at least $500 to 800 a night for what some others do for free . I guess three or four grand a week is good money to some and if all you care about is money it certainly buys lots of mouthwash.

Well, let's face it, half the outrage isn't his comments, but rather his religion. If he was a Muslim, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
 
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Nope, but now you have the New Testament, which in some ways makes OT teachings obsolete.



The myth is that the sexually immoral will skate at the Judgment.

The myth is that magical sky fairies preside over us and will cast judgement against homosexuals for nothing more than for whom they are attracted to.

Regardless, people should be free to say as they want, independent of ignorance.
 
I think the real irony on this story that nobody has said is that the new unwritten rule of Christianity is don't ask, don't tell.

you Christians can keep your backwards beliefs in regards to homosexuality. that's your right. you just can't tell anyone about them anymore.

:lamo

and i'm sorry to laugh at you, because I think it's bad policy and only further divides people. but that is exactly how this is beginning to play out.

but as an atheist, I would be lying if I didn't say a part of me doesn't kind of like to see it. It's like the smoking bans that went on. I disagreed, I fought vocally against it, but it helped me personally.

This proves my point.
 
Re: 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended by A&E

Ok...So? That is not equating the two directly, that is speaking of the selfish manner of man right? To come in here and say that Phil said that homosexuality was akin to "****ing a duck" as someone has on this very board, is a lie. You just confirmed it.

Not really. It's a thought association. It automatically throws that particular sin in with the others. However, homosexuality has become associated with only some *certain* sins, sins which the speakers happens to proclaim to not violate. It's a way of lumping together, say, pedophilia, bestiality, or rape.

If you want to practice this, all you have to do is subtract a few key ingredients and put in others. "Gun owners are part of a national sickness like racism, rape, and murder."
 
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