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North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un Executes His Uncle

MrVicchio said:
It's better to leave alive people who viciously end the life of innocent people, they should get to live. They should get Cable TV, 3 square meals, medical care, educational benefits, visit with relatives and write to them. Murderers have rights too!
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Conjugal visits, don't forget that.
 
Summerwind said:
I'm not in favor of the death penalty. However if a country is going to have one, it seems more humane to do it in a timely manner, than to drag it out decades like we do.
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what a completely odd lesson to take from the story
 
Summerwind said:
The true embarrassment for our country is that we both still have death penalties. Period. If you don't want the similarities recognized, perhaps we should grow past our archaic penal system.
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You're right. Execution is cruel. Imprisonment is cruel. Perhaps we should pull cold-blooded murderers aside for a stern talking-to, complete with wagged finger. That's the solution to rampant crime.
 
Summerwind said:
Do you really believe ours are faring any better these days? Have you been paying any attention at all????
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Easy feller, I have plenty of criticism for the US justice system, too. I just thought we were talking about NK.
 
Summerwind said:
Do you really believe ours are faring any better these days? Have you been paying any attention at all????
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Jesus, now you're comparing a flawed legal system in a democracy to the one in NK?
 
Summerwind said:
Perhaps, or perhaps he really was guilty of the things that were reported... who cares? State sponsored murder is still murder and we should be past that as I believe all other developed "western" nations have managed. They aren't collapsing under murder rates or other crime because they don't have the death penalty. As a matter of fact, isn't our murder and crime rate much higher than most? If it made sense, regardless of the morality, perhaps, but there's no evidence it's helping..... But just as rightie tighties want to hang on to many policies that have been tried and failed, y'all refuse to see reality. Not all seemingly logical ideas actually pan out, the death penalty is one.
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Ok, but this situation is the highest stakes of politics, not really representative or comparable to a judicial system. If this had been a discussion of average North Korean who steals food and his relative punishment by the state, okay, that has more validity but this is almost beyond the scope of your comparison.
 
Our founding fathers openly and personally executed men believed to be guilty of treason or espionage, without trial. Somehow, we get spared that liberal "righteous indignation".
 
Gipper said:
Our founding fathers openly and personally executed men believed to be guilty of treason or espionage, without trial. Somehow, we get spared that liberal "righteous indignation".
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Yes, us liberals worship everything the founding fathers did.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, us liberals worship everything the founding fathers did.
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Yeah, that's true. As much as liberals hate America, I doubt that they'd give Washington and Jefferson a pass on this.
 
Summerwind said:
I a word, YES. Murder to revenge murder is inane.
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You're right, murder as REVENGE is inane. However, we're not talking about revenge, perhaps that's why you are so badly wrong on this issue... you don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
 
Although this isn't it, something as seemingly innocuous as this will be the black swan event that topples the world into World War III
We'll never know until we can look back on it with 20/20 hindsight, that is those of us that are left will...
 
Summerwind said:
I'm not in favor of the death penalty. However if a country is going to have one, it seems more humane to do it in a timely manner, than to drag it out decades like we do.
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So you are advocating for more speedy executions in the US, some soldier against the death penalty you are.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
So you are advocating for more speedy executions in the US, some soldier against the death penalty you are.
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Lol, yes in his stampede to deflect his criticism away from North Korea and over to the US I don't believe he really thought about if his statement actually made any sense.
 
I wonder if Jang was killed for "liberal" policies he was trying to push through and for his "hate" of North Korea.
 
Summerwind said:
I'm not in favor of the death penalty.
However if a country is going to have one, it seems more humane to do it in a timely manner, than to drag it out decades like we do.
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From what I have read about this the North Koreans didn't waste any time on appeals, last meals on anything else.

They had a quick trial, found the guy guilty and put a bullet in his head.

No fuss, no muss.
 
reidster said:
I'm more so interested in what his uncle was actually advocating.
We'll never know but it's nice to think that there are still those who could possibly value Liberty over authority in the North Korean government.
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You can think whatever you want to think but there are no indications that what you say is correct.
 
Summerwind said:
I"m gonna go ahead and agree and add that any death penalty system is third world mentality regardless of where it is.
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I don't agree that the enlightened course is to reward serial rapist/murderers for rape and murder with a carefree assured life of free housing, free food, free medical care, and safety for the rest of their lives. That isn't punishment to some people, it is a better way of life and rewarding them.
 
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