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Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

specklebang said:
Our decision to make the Cuban people suffer because we are mad at their King is foolish and unfair. We have normalized relations with far worse countries and it has been a benefit all around.

Maybe this will be the beginning of getting along with one of our closest neighbors. It's way overdue.

That's my opinion© as an American, it has nothing to do with any political party.
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I think things could have been cool if they hadn't pointed missiles at us. That is a slight breach of etiquette.
 
MMC said:
Yeah well he isn't exactly on Obama and Clinton's good side either.....nor into that exceeding with excess.
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Well, that's my point. He's very concerned about our countries future. It's no small thing for a former US president to declare that the foremost (supposedly) democracy in the world is broken! Why that is dismissed by so many escapes me, regardless of ones opinions of his presidential policies all those years ago. He's a democrat highly critical of Obama, not suppose to do that, right? He's more concerned with the country than he is with politics. Clinton doesn't have the balls to say the obvious as Carter has.
 
Maenad said:
Obama couldn't be troubled to go to Margaret Thatcher's funeral. But he has all the time in the world for known communists!
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If he went to her funeral, you probably would have bitched and moaned "where does he come off going to that funeral, he isn't worthy, derp derp derp"

The derangement syndrome, really, get a hobby. You don't need a constant stream of manufactured outrage to get through your day...
 
Montecresto said:
Well, that's my point. He's very concerned about our countries future. It's no small thing for a former US president to declare that the foremost (supposedly) democracy in the world is broken! Why that is dismissed by so many escapes me, regardless of ones opinions of his presidential policies all those years ago. He's a democrat highly critical of Obama, not suppose to do that, right? He's more concerned with the country than he is with politics. Clinton doesn't have the balls to say the obvious as Carter has.
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That's because Clinton and Obama are Corporatist Liberal Democrats......Carter isn't.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
First of all what is this "gesture of hope" BS? I didn't know whether to put this in media bias or here. I have no problem with him giving the guy a formal handshake in a situation like this but he seems like he is really infatuated with the guy and it looks to me like he is bowing again. Why is he so warm and subservient to this commie thug.



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From what I understand Obama told Castro he should emulate Mandela when it comes to Human Rights for his people. If so, there is nothing sinister here.
 
Maenad said:
I think things could have been cool if they hadn't pointed missiles at us. That is a slight breach of etiquette.
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The Russians did that and it was 50 years ago. How long must we be angry? They backed down. I remember that week where we looked to the skies expecting hellfire to rain down on us.

Are we still angry with Germany? Japan? Even Vietnam? China? Russia? There comes a point when it's time to move on.
 
Perotista said:
From what I understand Obama told Castro he should emulate Mandela when it comes to Human Rights for his people. If so, there is nothing sinister here.
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Carters concern for human rights came from his heart. Obama's I think is more for show and votes. Obama will spout the rhetoric but before he does he will give those corporations, wall street firms and special interests who financed his campaign a wink and a nudge. People may think what they may about Jimmy C, but what was saw was what you got. There was no wink and nudge to him. He was basically an outsider all the way.
 
BlackAsCoal said:
The right hates everything .. where's the news?

Hopefully, Obama will get something right and open the door to Cuba.
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How about Cuba release American prisoners, first?
 
Perotista said:
From what I understand Obama told Castro he should emulate Mandela when it comes to Human Rights for his people. If so, there is nothing sinister here.
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We will know whats up if Obama starts sportin those Havana's.....just sayin. Don't forget he is desperate for money. :lol:
 
Verax said:
Unless you can build a time machine and go back to post WWII there's not much we can do about that. We need to evolve and adapt to a new future that is not so dependent on playing world bully. The rest of the world is catching up to us and unless you want to nuke everyone back to the stone age we can't stop it.
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We aren't the worlds bully. Besides, Im sure Russia and China are *****cats-deep down. :roll:
 
beefheart said:
If he went to her funeral, you probably would have bitched and moaned "where does he come off going to that funeral, he isn't worthy, derp derp derp"

The derangement syndrome, really, get a hobby. You don't need a constant stream of manufactured outrage to get through your day...
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Are you saying that you get paid to post here?

I have a hobby. It is posting on forums. And please refrain from attacking me. You do not know my mind, nor what I would or would not have thought about anything.
 
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Maenad said:
Are you saying that you get paid to post here?

I have a hobby. It is posting on forums. And please refrain from attacking me. You do not know my mind, nor what I would or would not have thought about anything.
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Not attacking you, just attacking this mindset where something this stupid gets whipped up into a manufactured frenzy.
 
sangha said:
That's not infatuation

*THIS* is infatuation!
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No, that's a Middle Eastern custom.

But, congragulations on being the first to drag Bush into it...lol
 
joko104 said:
Shaking hands with a foreign leader is proper conduct regardless.

His bowing to the keeper of the most Holy Islamic shrine, the King of Saudi Arabia, was another thing. But, then, Obama did say he is of the Muslim faith, though the reporter convinced him to change that to saying Christian faith.

No problem with him shaking hands with Castro.
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Yes, like the Middle East he used his 'charm offensive', and this will probably provide similar results.
 
Why was Castri even invited?
 
beefheart said:
Not attacking you, just attacking this mindset where something this stupid gets whipped up into a manufactured frenzy.
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I am an American citizen. As such, I have the right to criticize the president and the government. Now get off my butt.
 
apdst said:
Are y'all paying any attention?

Human rights in Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Per your link,
racism, limits on freedom of expression, association, assembly, movement, and the press. Concerns have also been expressed about the operation of due process. According to Human Rights Watch, even though Cuba, officially atheist until 1992, now "permits greater opportunities for religious expression than it did in past years, and has allowed several religious-run humanitarian groups to operate, the government still maintains tight control on religious institutions, affiliated groups, and individual believers."[1] Censorship in Cuba has also been at the center of complaints.[4][5] Most emigration is illegal.
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No wonder the left loves Cuba!
 
Maenad said:
I am an American citizen. As such, I have the right to criticize the president and the government. Now get off my butt.
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I am an American citizen, I have the right to criticize you! And, I have no desire for your butt. :)
 
US Conservative said:
Per your link,


No wonder the left loves Cuba!
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I love Cuba. Best holiday I ever had was two weeks of bouncing a rented car over some of the worst roads ever and meeting some of the best people.
Kinda nice, too that all the other tourists were Canadians and Europeans, knowwhatImean?
 
apdst said:
Are y'all paying any attention?

Human rights in Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Looks a lot like the way things are shaping up in America. It's also a lot like the way things are in China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and other countries we have normal relations with. It's past time to normalize relations with Cuba. That would actually have a more profound effect on HR than our embargo has.
 
I was more offended that Cameron and Obama thought it was appropriate too pull out a camera and do a "selfie" whilst at a memorial service....
 
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