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Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

As a nation that champions freedom and democracy around the world, should we not recognize one of democracy's greatest leaders?

We already have and are, though he didn't champion democracy (he was a capitol S Socialist). However we should not usurp the honor that goes to Americans and those who contribute significantly to America just because our POTUS wants some of the world regard a foreign dignity had to rub off on him.
 
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Rush will let the rightists know on Monday what to think, as he did with the Pope..

GOP politicians are scared to death to speak until Rush gives them the go-ahead to trash Mandela .

Be sure to come back and tell us what he says. You appear to be one of the few here who listen to his shows.

Besides, this isn't about trashing Mandela, this is about a president trying to ride the world popularity coattails of a dead guy that means zero to America.
 
Rush will let the rightists know on Monday what to think, as he did with the Pope..

GOP politicians are scared to death to speak until Rush gives them the go-ahead to trash Mandela .

You know, that kind of thinking may of applied a few years ago. But with as much diversity in thought that is in the republican party now, that no longer applies. There's a lot of people who never listen Rush believe it or not.
 
We already have and are though he didn't champion democracy (he was a capitol S Socialist). However we should not usurp the honor that goes to Americans and those who contribute significantly to America just because our POTUS wants some of the world regard a foreign dignity had to rub off on him.

Okay, one is primarily economic system, and the other is a political. Whether you want to admit it or not, he is the only reason there are free, democratic elections in South Africa. Hell, he was so important that he broadcasted for us several speeches on Freedom Radio Program, or w.e that was called. Can't we just honor a great man?
 
I'll be the first to say I'm way over the top with many of my posts..
I'll also say that they are responses to rightists who initiate liberal-bashing, as you say, and this Mandela business..
I spent almost the whole day last year bashing liberals on Politico for trashing Breitbart the day he died..
As a retired teacher, I was especially concerned with his young children..
It's just not good enough Kobie .
Yeah, it's typical liberal-bashing from him. That's pretty much all he does.
 
The only people who oppose this are in an extremist minority that are stuck in a cold war mentality with wilful [sic] ignorance and vintage information.

Nice to know that those of us who disapprove of terrorism and murder, and are not eager to honor someone notorious for his connection thereto, are “in an extremist minority that are stuck in a cold war mentality with wilful [sic] ignorance and vintage information.”
 
It's always about bashing Obama isn't it..
Soon he'll be accused by the right-wing hate machine of distracting from PPACA, as we've seen from the GOP for two months..
Feigning that over 20 million listeners aren't influenced along with the GOP House will never pass the smell test .
Be sure to come back and tell us what he says. You appear to be one of the few here who listen to his shows.

Besides, this isn't about trashing Mandela, this is about a president trying to ride the world popularity coattails of a dead guy that means zero to America.
 
You are not a "small" extremist minority..
Nice to know that those of us who disapprove of terrorism and murder, and are not eager to honor someone notorious for his connection thereto, are “in an extremist minority that are stuck in a cold war mentality with wilful [sic] ignorance and vintage information.”
 
Okay, one is primarily economic system, and the other is a political. Whether you want to admit it or not, he is the only reason there are free, democratic elections in South Africa. Hell, he was so important that he broadcasted for us several speeches on Freedom Radio Program, or w.e that was called. Can't we just honor a great man?

Of course we can honor him, we have been, where did I say we shouldn't. But not in a way that was reserved for Americans. We shouldn't give him the Congressional Medal of Honor either. Or the US Freedom Medal.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Hamster..
Every day that man speaks, the GOP Congress parrots his remarks later in the day along with FOX..
I give credit where it is due and predicted he would be this influential after he survived his second bankrupcy 30 some years ago..

Have you heard of any GOP politicians saying anything good about Mandela..
I really want to know .

You know, that kind of thinking may of applied a few years ago. But with as much diversity in thought that is in the republican party now, that no longer applies. There's a lot of people who never listen Rush believe it or not.
 
It's always about bashing Obama isn't it..
Soon he'll be accused by the right-wing hate machine of distracting from PPACA, as we've seen from the GOP for two months..
Feigning that over 20 million listeners aren't influenced along with the GOP House will never pass the smell test .

Well, in this case, since it's President Obama ordering it, who else would YOU say is responsible? The rest is just the same old warmed over nonsense from you. Face it, you like listening to Rush, it gives you a thrill to yell at the radio.
 
Hey Pero..I'm wondering what it was like around here when Ted Kennedy died, if this Mandela stuff is any indication..

I'm sure GOP Politicians will have the continued gag order on for their own good .

I don't know, but I do believe one should have respect for the recently departed regardless of political ideology. But that is just me. I fail to see how being a Republican or Democrat, a conservative or liberal has to do with paying ones respects. If not paying one's respects at least letting the guy get buried before demonizing the man. But perhaps it is because I am one from an older generation.
 
Nice to know that those of us who disapprove of terrorism and murder, and are not eager to honor someone notorious for his connection thereto, are “in an extremist minority that are stuck in a cold war mentality with wilful [sic] ignorance and vintage information.”

When did Mandela commit terrorism and murder?

You are literally ignoring reality.

He never condoned or supported necklacing and he never advocated the killing of innocents, before he went to prison the ANC only committed acts of sabotage.
 
Actually, MSNBC gives me Rush's greatest hits every day..
Well, in this case, since it's President Obama ordering it, who else would YOU say is responsible? The rest is just the same old warmed over nonsense from you. Face it, you like listening to Rush, it gives you a thrill to yell at the radio.
I just want to know what the "clownboys" are listening to, clownboy..
 
Cool. But answer this, why do we lower the NATION'S flag to half staff in the first place?

I just don't have a problem with it for someone who played such a prominent, positive role on the national stage.
 
Rush will let the rightists know on Monday what to think, as he did with the Pope..

GOP politicians are scared to death to speak until Rush gives them the go-ahead to trash Mandela .

To be fair to Rush, and not that he particularly deserves it, he has been overall praising Mandela. Of course, he's using his praise of Mandela to blast U.S. civil rights leaders and Obama, which is par for the course.
 
I just don't have a problem with it for someone who played such a prominent, positive role on the national stage.

Except he didn't so there's not even that reason for it.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Hamster..
Every day that man speaks, the GOP Congress parrots his remarks later in the day along with FOX..
I give credit where it is due and predicted he would be this influential after he survived his second bankrupcy 30 some years ago..

Have you heard of any GOP politicians saying anything good about Mandela..
I really want to know .

George W. Bush: Mandela Was Force 'For Freedom And Equality'
 
I'm really surprised by the unmitigated hate coming from the military guys on here, not you of course..
I guess I don't remember when Mao and Stalin died..Did they get it this bad ?
I don't know, but I do believe one should have respect for the recently departed regardless of political ideology. But that is just me. I fail to see how being a Republican or Democrat, a conservative or liberal has to do with paying ones respects. If not paying one's respects at least letting the guy get buried before demonizing the man. But perhaps it is because I am one from an older generation.
 
This thread isn't about honoring “one of democracy's greatest leaders”; it's about honoring a murderous terrorist.

Sometime I wish there was a dislike feature, next to the like.

I'll admit that he was a terrorist in his past. But surely you can see that the man who died today was completely and totally different from the one angry man who went in.
 
I'm really surprised by the unmitigated hate coming from the military guys on here, not you of course..
I guess I don't remember when Mao and Stalin died..Did they get it this bad ?

Uhm... I don't think this forum was around when Stalin died...
 
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