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Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

Aunt Spiker said:
Yeah - well I always hope such things aren't true at all. I hope it's just another made up string of bull.

But I'm more bothered by the idea that, if it is true, then she went it either having fully broken her water, or partially broken her water, and they sent her home.

It would be nice if this was all made up and 100% fakeo.
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She could have been a difficult patient and left, we dont know.

Interestingly enough, when a woman has smoked through her pregnancy you dont want her to stop just before the delivery-there are complications from nicotine withdrawal for the baby, and if moms cough returns it can reopen a surgical site. This leads to the absolutely surreal sight of extremely pregnant women smoking in wheelchairs at the back of the hospital. :/
 
I bet she did not have insurance.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
The death of this woman's child *could have been prevented* - if they did the right thing. That's not a guarantee, but it might have been a possibility.
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Sorry, but the woman is suing because she wasn't given an abortion and that put her life at risk - how the hell can you then say "the death of this woman's child could have been prevented if they did the right thing"?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Sorry, but the woman is suing because she wasn't given an abortion and that put her life at risk - how the hell can you then say "the death of this woman's child could have been prevented if they did the right thing"?
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Lucid as usual. Good afternoon, CJ. :2wave:
 
According to one of the articles posted by AGENT J the hospital gave her meds to stop the labor pains.

They never should have done that.

Her body was trying to expel the fetus.

If they really did give her meds to stop the contractions ( her body was trying the rid itself of the fetus before an infection set in )
then they are responsible for putting her life at risk.
 
minnie616 said:
According to one of the articles posted by AGENT J the hospital gave her meds to stop the labor pains.

They never should have done that.

Her body was trying to expel the fetus.

If they really did give her meds to stop the contractions ( her body was trying the rid itself of the fetus before an infection set in )
then they are responsible for putting her life at risk.
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You are an obstetrician familiar with her case?
 
minnie616 said:
According to one of the articles posted by AGENT J the hospital gave her meds to stop the labor pains.

They never should have done that.

Her body was trying to expel the fetus.

If they really did give her meds to stop the contractions ( her body was trying the rid itself of the fetus before an infection set in )
then they are responsible for putting her life at risk.
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yes reading the articles what happened is not the standard practice and is not even condoned by many doctors at these hospitals but its set by the rules of the hospital specifically and not the medical science community

if everything is true i hope they sue the pants of the hospital and everybody involved is never allowed to work in the health care industry at the least if not fined and or jailed.
 
AGENT J said:
yes reading the articles what happened is not the standard practice and is not even condoned by many doctors at these hospitals but its set by the rules of the hospital specifically and not the medical science community

if everything is true i hope they sue the pants of the hospital and everybody involved is never allowed to work in the health care industry at the least if not fined and or jailed.
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Link please.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
Link please.:peace
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go back and look they are already posted and i dont remember which specific one it was theres only like 9 of them though
 
RogueWarrior said:
Wow Really?
They never told her that the was no chance the fetus would survive. If they had told her that and that their policy is no abortions, she could have made that choice. The doctors have an obligation to her first and foremost. Do no harm and they almost killed her.
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But you did say this was a catholic hospital right? I mean yes they are supposed to save her life (which they did or she couldn't sue anyways), but they have to practice the rules dictated by the hospital. LIke they said before, if she had time to come and go 3 times, she had time to go out of the county to another hospital.

And besides, people like you are never happy. They don't let her abort according to their beliefs and she survives. If they had let her abort, you would have been laughing at the church for being hypocrites for letting her abort.
 
Jack Hays said:
ACLU re the Catholic Church?:lamo

I'm pro-choice and I don't find that credible.:lamo
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I have no idea what you are referring to but you are allowed to have any "opinions" you want :shrug:

the links are here all you have to do is read them they reference a study published in the American Journal of Bioethics Primary Research
 
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AGENT J said:
I have no idea what you are referring to but you are allowed to have any "opinions" you want :shrug:

the links are here all you have to do is read them they reference a study published in the American Journal of Bioethics Primary Research
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We'll await the trial. I would rather be the defendant's attorney than the ACLU attorney.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
We'll await the trial. I would rather be the defendant's attorney than the ACLU attorney.:peace
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again an opinion you are welcome to but that has nothing to do with my post or the fact links were posted stating something like 51% oo something like that of OB-GYNs working in catholic hospitals experienced conflicts with RELIGIOUS rules vs medical science.

Thats all the point of the my post was and nothign else.
 
AGENT J said:
again an opinion you are welcome to but that has nothing to do with my post or the fact links were posted stating something like 51% oo something like that of OB-GYNs working in catholic hospitals experienced conflicts with RELIGIOUS rules vs medical science.

Thats all the point of the my post was and nothign else.
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Fair enough.:peace
 
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