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Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

If this is true, she should win this suit. But think about this, if corporations refuse to pay for healthcare that pays for this procedure would they be equally liable? Like the companies that refuse to pay for any sort of pregnancy termination?
Accprding to the ACLU lawsuit she is suing them because they did not inform her that continuing the pregnancy posed significant risks to her health. She deleveloped a life threating infection and when the hospital discovered the infection they were still going to send her back home without telling her.



read more:

https://www.aclu.org/reproductive-f...s-v-united-states-conference-catholic-bishops
 
If this is true, she should win this suit. But think about this, if corporations refuse to pay for healthcare that pays for this procedure would they be equally liable? Like the companies that refuse to pay for any sort of pregnancy termination?

If this true and I have reason to believe it is true , because of my own personal experience many years ago when I went into early labor and miscarried at 20 weeks gestation, I hope she does win.

They should not have sent her home without telling her they could not help her because hospital policy would not allow them to perform a D&E on pre viable fetus even if the fetus had no way of surviving.
 
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Yeah, I think its a big deal that her water broke at 18 weeks. There is no doubt she was miscarrying. It seems they should have done more than send her away constantly.


Her water broke, she should know...OB aint my thing but I would know to get a second opinion.
 
According to the article the hospital could have induced labor, but they didn't do that or inform her of the situation.

But I read induce labor. I guess there were other options including DnC, none of which the hospital was willing to do. But I don't understand why the hospital wouldn't even induce labor with medication. I guess they would consider that an abortion or termination of pregnancy, and that is really pushing it considering her medical needs.

Its really messed up, and I hope she does when the lawsuit too.




If this true and I have reason to believe it is true , because of my own personal experience many years ago when I went into early labor and miscarried at 20 weeks gestation, I hope she does win.

They should not have sent her home without telling her they could not help her because hospital policy would not allow them to perform a D&E on pre viable fetus even if the fetus had no way of surviving.
 
Accprding to the ACLU lawsuit she is suing them because they did not inform her that continuing the pregnancy posed significant risks to her health. She deleveloped a life threating infection and when the hospital discovered the infection they were still going to send her back home without telling her.



read more:

https://www.aclu.org/reproductive-f...s-v-united-states-conference-catholic-bishops

IF this is true and she wins that hospital is bat**** insane! IF true i hope she wins and wins big time!

IF true they violated her rights and all the people involved in this decision should be fired and barred from practicing in the health care industry at the very least

IF
this is true they may find themselves in jail and rightfully so.
 
Heres some more info/articles


ACLU, Michigan woman sue Catholic Bishops over hospital rules - CNN.com
ACLU v. Catholic bishops: Tamesha Means was turned away from Michigan’s Mercy Health Partners for miscarrying.
ACLU Sues, Claiming Catholic Hospitals Put Women At Risk : Shots - Health News : NPR
Michigan woman sues Catholic health officials, claiming hospital failed to properly treat miscarriage  - NY Daily News



Tamesha Means' water broke early on December 1, 2010.

Just 18 weeks pregnant, she called a friend for a ride to Mercy Health Partners, the only hospital in Muskegon County, Michigan.
During that visit, and two others the following day, Means was in excruciating pain.

She was sent home twice -- given pain medication, told to return if her contractions became unbearable -- and was waiting to be discharged for a third time when she started to give birth.

The baby died less than three hours after it was delivered.
 
more info


Catholic bishops under fire for denying reproductive healthcare | MSNBC
Catholic Hospital Refuses To Treat Miscarrying Woman; ACLU Sues Catholic Bishops Over Reproductive Rights

In what is believed to be the first lawsuit of its kind, the American Civil Liberties Union is suing the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and a Catholic hospital in Michigan for negligence in treating a woman with dangerous pregnancy complications.

The suit is on behalf of Tamesha Means, a mother of three who was 18 weeks pregnant when her water broke. At Mercy Health Partners (MHP), the Catholic hospital where she sought care (the only hospital within miles), no one told her her fetus had almost no chance of survival under the circumstances, or that she was at risk for serious infection if labor was not induced to terminate the pregnancy. Instead, she was sent home and told to come back a week later.

Means’ case is similar to that of Savita Halapannavar, the Indian woman who died last year of infection in an Irish hospital after she was denied a termination during a miscarriage at 17 weeks. An official report found a “failure in the provision of the most basic elements of patient care.” Irish law was changed to allow abortions in cases of life endangerment.

Means contracted two serious infections during her ordeal, but survived. According to the complaint, her condition worsened as repeat visits to the Catholic hospital failed to result in adequate treatment. “As she waited to be sent home for the third time, the feet of the fetus breached her cervix and she began to deliver. The baby died shortly after birth. MHP then told Ms. Means she needed to make funeral arrangements.”


While the suit, filed in federal district court in Michigan, is unique, the circumstances are not, both in the hospital and beyond. The suit cites a public health educator who knew of at least five instances in which Mercy Health Partners did not induce labor in similarly dangerous situations. And a recent study by medical sociologist Lori Freedman published in the American Journal of Bioethics Primary Research did in-depth interviews with doctors at Catholic hospitals around the country and found that “when applied to cases in which patients were already losing a desired pregnancy and/or the patient’s health was at risk, some physicians found the institutional restrictions on care to be unacceptable.”

totally and absolutely disgusting, if these articles are in fact accurate I hope they sue the pants off all these hospitals!!

all the people involved in the decisions should be terminated and banned from the medical profession at the least.

Seems to me if all this is true there could even be criminal charges and i hope so, violating rights like that and purposely endangering a patient is disgusting.
 
For many religious people, women cease to be humans when they become pregnant. Shut up and give birth.

One of the many reason I dropped religions as a teenager.
 
For many religious people, women cease to be humans when they become pregnant. Shut up and give birth.

One of the many reason I dropped religions as a teenager.
If u are talking about Christianity, the problem is people, not Christianity.
 
For many religious people, women cease to be humans when they become pregnant. Shut up and give birth.

One of the many reason I dropped religions as a teenager.

this is why I am pro-choice

Pregnant women and girls should not be put in this much danger
 
thanks for looking into that... It gives the story more credit

no problem i usually do and I was unaware that this type of BS happened so much

I was looking into just in general besides this case and its pathetic and disgusting
 
Tamesha Means lawsuit: Catholic hospital 'forced miscarrying woman to deliver 18-week fetus' | Mail Online

[h=1]Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus that had no chance of survival' because of no abortion policy.[/h]
  • Tamesha Means, 30, of Muskegon, Michigan, filed a lawsuit Friday against the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops
  • It claims Means, then 27 and a mother-of-two, visited the hospital - the only one in her county - three times after her water broke five months early
  • She says she was told to go home before she miscarried on the third visit and was forced to deliver the 18 week fetus feet-first


Shades of the debacle in Ireland where the woman died.



I don't know why people are all flustered about the possible imposition of sharia law when there is a christian version just as bad and already in place.

I would be surprised if she hadn't signed off on this procedure. Good luck with that.

IF there was premature rupture of membraine, the baby probably needed to be delivered anyway.
 
I wonder if she had insurance.
I would be surprised if she hadn't signed off on this procedure. Good luck with that.

IF there was premature rupture of membraine, the baby probably needed to be delivered anyway.
 
Her water broke, she should know...OB aint my thing but I would know to get a second opinion.

No - women aren't doctors. How could she know?

You place your health and life in the hands of doctors because THEY went to medical school. THEY are supposed to know what to do. THEY are supposed to make the choice that is best FOR YOU.

Apparently THEY do - if they aren't Catholic.
 
Yea, at first I thought this might be a left wing outrage type article, I was skeptical at first. As I found out more I dont think it was an outrage piece, but true.
No - women aren't doctors. How could she know?

You place your health and life in the hands of doctors because THEY went to medical school. THEY are supposed to know what to do. THEY are supposed to make the choice that is best FOR YOU.

Apparently THEY do - if they aren't Catholic.
 
No - women aren't doctors. How could she know?

You place your health and life in the hands of doctors because THEY went to medical school. THEY are supposed to know what to do. THEY are supposed to make the choice that is best FOR YOU.

Apparently THEY do - if they aren't Catholic.

The time between when the woman first went to the hospital and when she miscarried was less than 48 hours, and she was in extreme pain because the hospital failed to properly treat her.

What kind of perverse train of thought leads some to believe that a woman in extreme pain should immediately go travel long distances to get a 2nd opinion?
 
The time between when the woman first went to the hospital and when she miscarried was less than 48 hours, and she was in extreme pain because the hospital failed to properly treat her.

What kind of perverse train of thought leads some to believe that a woman in extreme pain should immediately go travel long distances to get a 2nd opinion?

At the very LEAST I'd expect them to have checked her into the Labor-Unit. I mean seriously - monitor her and the baby. Things like internal bleeding can occur if the placenta detaches, etc. Breathing, blood-oxygen levels, etc etc etc.

All of this just seems barbaric - there was no reason for them to SEND HER HOME. When your water breaks you should be CHECKED IN - labor, problem, whatever.

I don't understand why they didn't even do that much. Just - nothing - not a damned thing was done right. WTF?
 
Adding on: just a few months ago a friend of mind - then 3 months pregnant - had her water break. She went to the hospital and they kept her for a few days. Depending on how complete the rupture is, they might be able to stop or slow the loss. My friend was home a week later and she is *still pregnant* - Now it's high risk.

The body will continually produce amniotic fluid when you truly go into labor so all is not lost just because a rupture has happened.

But you MUST be monitored, must be watching 24/7, must be examined routinely and you CANNOT WALK AROUND. Being mobile will only hasten the problem. A small rupture might turn into a full break.

The death of this woman's child *could have been prevented* - if they did the right thing. That's not a guarantee, but it might have been a possibility.
 
No - women aren't doctors. How could she know?

You place your health and life in the hands of doctors because THEY went to medical school. THEY are supposed to know what to do. THEY are supposed to make the choice that is best FOR YOU.

Apparently THEY do - if they aren't Catholic.

This is an idiotic statement.

We dont know the facts of the case-we know what an apparently ignorant woman told a "journalist".

As of now-I apply the same amount of credibility to this as I do to that lesbian waiter who didn't get a tip.
 
The time between when the woman first went to the hospital and when she miscarried was less than 48 hours, and she was in extreme pain because the hospital failed to properly treat her.

What kind of perverse train of thought leads some to believe that a woman in extreme pain should immediately go travel long distances to get a 2nd opinion?

Hospitals dont treat anyone. Practitioners do.
 
No - women aren't doctors. How could she know?

You place your health and life in the hands of doctors because THEY went to medical school. THEY are supposed to know what to do. THEY are supposed to make the choice that is best FOR YOU.

Apparently THEY do - if they aren't Catholic.

That's a bit of a stretch, but I haven't seen anything here yet that indicates where the woman's family doctor or doctor providing prenatal care is all of this or if she consulted with him/her and what advice that person gave.

Fact remains that Catholic hospitals have a constitutional right not to perform abortions and in my view, her own doctor should have been instructing her what to do should something go wrong and where to go. I also find it hard to believe that in a city of almost 40,000 there's only one hospital, a Catholic one, and no other medical facilities capable of serving this woman's needs.
 
This is an idiotic statement.

We dont know the facts of the case-we know what an apparently ignorant woman told a "journalist".

As of now-I apply the same amount of credibility to this as I do to that lesbian waiter who didn't get a tip.

Yeah - well I always hope such things aren't true at all. I hope it's just another made up string of bull.

But I'm more bothered by the idea that, if it is true, then she went it either having fully broken her water, or partially broken her water, and they sent her home.

It would be nice if this was all made up and 100% fakeo.
 
That's a bit of a stretch, but I haven't seen anything here yet that indicates where the woman's family doctor or doctor providing prenatal care is all of this or if she consulted with him/her and what advice that person gave.

Fact remains that Catholic hospitals have a constitutional right not to perform abortions and in my view, her own doctor should have been instructing her what to do should something go wrong and where to go. I also find it hard to believe that in a city of almost 40,000 there's only one hospital, a Catholic one, and no other medical facilities capable of serving this woman's needs.

The entire premise is to attack religious based hospitals-not to advocate for care.
 
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