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Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

I'm old fashioned. Heck I didn't even have a computer in the house until around 5 years ago. I still have my landline although my daughter gave me a cell phone a couple of years back. The kind I can make and receive calls on. There is something about paper I love. I had three book cases full of books and was ready to build a fourth when the wife made me put all them books into boxes.

Oh, I still have plenty of paper books. But I hope to sell off my library next year, including the bookcases.
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Yup, and thats not all of them.....
 
We have both Sam's and BJ's Wholesale Club in this area. Pricing is simliar at both, so they do compete with each other and WalMart.

The Walmart down here always has long lines so I don't go there much. I am sort of like the guy Yoggie Berra talked about when he said, "No one goes there anymore, its too crowded." That is how I feel about Walmart.
 
And the bible is simply made up.

well calling the bible simply made up means you determined your personal opinion as fact.

the bible itself has historically been shown to be somewhat accurate,however many stories were over exaggerated or stretched out.

however you not believing in it does not make it fiction,it is religion and theology and thus belongs under such category.
 
The Walmart down here always has long lines so I don't go there much. I am sort of like the guy Yoggie Berra talked about when he said, "No one goes there anymore, its too crowded." That is how I feel about Walmart.

Good quote! :thumbs:
 
I'm old fashioned. Heck I didn't even have a computer in the house until around 5 years ago. I still have my landline although my daughter gave me a cell phone a couple of years back. The kind I can make and receive calls on. There is something about paper I love. I had three book cases full of books and was ready to build a fourth when the wife made me put all them books into boxes.

Sounds like she's looking forward to moving! :thumbs:
 
well calling the bible simply made up means you determined your personal opinion as fact.

the bible itself has historically been shown to be somewhat accurate,however many stories were over exaggerated or stretched out.

however you not believing in it does not make it fiction,it is religion and theology and thus belongs under such category.

I was using your definition of fiction. The stories and characters of the bible are made up, not just exaggerated. That people believe them as dogma notwithstanding.
 
I was using your definition of fiction. The stories and characters of the bible are made up, not just exaggerated. That people believe them as dogma notwithstanding.

well your not quite right there,much of the bible has been historically proven,but shown to have been over exagerated,which would be expected when most stories occured during the age of illiteracy,so they got passed down over and over until someone who could write wrote them.

they found sodom and its sister city,it was destroyed by fire and brimstone,however scientifically it appears to be from a volcano,the garden of eden was found as well.numerous other things were found written in the bible and other texts from other ancient religions of the region.

that doesnt make them fiction,but rather exaggerated truth.it is a belief system,science cant prove all of it,but much was true,and the rest id belief.the difference between fiction and beleif is one is not proven,but believed,while the other is fabricated for the intention of being false,mostly for entertainment purposes.
 
Jesus was never found!
 
How come nobody has answered me? Where do they stock the Koran or the Talmud?
 
well your not quite right there,much of the bible has been historically proven,but shown to have been over exagerated,which would be expected when most stories occured during the age of illiteracy,so they got passed down over and over until someone who could write wrote them.

they found sodom and its sister city,it was destroyed by fire and brimstone,however scientifically it appears to be from a volcano,the garden of eden was found as well.numerous other things were found written in the bible and other texts from other ancient religions of the region.

that doesnt make them fiction,but rather exaggerated truth.it is a belief system,science cant prove all of it,but much was true,and the rest id belief.the difference between fiction and beleif is one is not proven,but believed,while the other is fabricated for the intention of being false,mostly for entertainment purposes.

Are there volcanos there? Was the "garden of Eden" found in Africa where humans came out of?
 
I believe your exact words were "religion never changes."

Would you like me to directly quote what you said with a post number? And then link the above statement? Because as it seems...it DID change. As a matter of fact...it seems you just attested to it.

A little tip. When trying to be a smartass...don't contradict yourself in your very next response.

Alright, fine. Religions change at a glacial rate. Is that better? They do not do so in response to the evidence, but when it becomes so absurd that they continue to ignore the evidence that they're forced to accept some small bit of reality.

It's still not making religion look good, sorry.
 
well calling the bible simply made up means you determined your personal opinion as fact.

the bible itself has historically been shown to be somewhat accurate,however many stories were over exaggerated or stretched out.

however you not believing in it does not make it fiction,it is religion and theology and thus belongs under such category.

It's not personal opinion, it's supported by every shred of evidence there is. You're the one with the personal opinion not supported by the facts.
 
And we are all entitled to our beliefs.

Entitled? No. It's just that nobody can stop you, no matter how absurd your beliefs are.
 
Alright, fine. Religions change at a glacial rate. Is that better? They do not do so in response to the evidence, but when it becomes so absurd that they continue to ignore the evidence that they're forced to accept some small bit of reality.

Wait? So if it isn't in regards to "evidence" that makes then change...then how can they accept it as reality? Obviously they do respond to evidence, just at a slower rate than you deem acceptable.

But then again...what are we talking about here? What should Christianity change right now?


It's still not making religion look good, sorry.

No. What is silly is stereotyping all religions into the "never changes" or "slowly changes" category when there is no real consensus (you know denominations that have different interpretations) in the one religion you most likely deal with on a regular basis.

So I am curious. What "change" you would like to be made in "religion" and on what "evidence" this change is based on? You know. Other than not existing because you disagree.
 
Entitled? No. It's just that nobody can stop you, no matter how absurd your beliefs are.

Actually anyone who is an American in this thread IS, by the very definition of the word, entitled to their religious beliefs. I'm pretty sure most countries would grant such freedoms too (if they are Western Nations).
 
Entitled? No. It's just that nobody can stop you, no matter how absurd your beliefs are.

The absurdity of beliefs doesn't lessen their entitlement. Of course if you act on beliefs that would do others harm than that changes everything.
 
That's really not a belief Grant. But accepting the bible as reality is.

Yes, it is a belief. Just as saying there is no truth in the Bible is also a belief. We believe there is a God, we believe there is no God, we believe that a politician will lead us to a better place or we believe that all politicians are crooks. The difference of beliefs, rather than facts, is what usually makes these debate boards function. We tend to defend our beliefs as much or more so than the facts.
 
well your not quite right there,much of the bible has been historically proven,but shown to have been over exagerated,which would be expected when most stories occured during the age of illiteracy,so they got passed down over and over until someone who could write wrote them.

they found sodom and its sister city,it was destroyed by fire and brimstone,however scientifically it appears to be from a volcano,the garden of eden was found as well.numerous other things were found written in the bible and other texts from other ancient religions of the region.

that doesnt make them fiction,but rather exaggerated truth.it is a belief system,science cant prove all of it,but much was true,and the rest id belief.the difference between fiction and beleif is one is not proven,but believed,while the other is fabricated for the intention of being false,mostly for entertainment purposes.

Sorry, but they THINK they may had found the "garden of eden". There is no proof it actually is. Same for the cities.

Yes, the bible has exaggerations and some details based on history, but that doesn't make it any less a fictional book. I'm sorry but if anyone takes the bible literally as fact word for word, they are crazy IMO and no different then those that believe Zeus makes lightning.
 
Actually anyone who is an American in this thread IS, by the very definition of the word, entitled to their religious beliefs. I'm pretty sure most countries would grant such freedoms too (if they are Western Nations).

Yes, that's true. Perhaps those in countries where other religions are forbidden might also have their own beliefs, but are only forbidden to share them.
 
Sorry, but they THINK they may had found the "garden of eden". There is no proof it actually is. Same for the cities.

Yes, the bible has exaggerations and some details based on history, but that doesn't make it any less a fictional book. I'm sorry but if anyone takes the bible literally as fact word for word, they are crazy IMO and no different then those that believe Zeus makes lightning.

Most Christians don't take the Bible as literal fact but instead look to it for guidance and inspiration. This is also one of the great changes that has occurred within the Christian religion, and of course we can hope that something similar happens with Islam.
 
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