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U.S. justices decline to hear another Obamacare challenge

Yeah, that system still would have made healthcare unaffordable to most people in the 1950s as the majority of the population had already moved into cities. Actually, your argument assumes that the way people exchanged services 200 years ago (I honestly doubt your story from pre-1960s) would work today. Failing to consider 1) the modern cost of a doctor and 2) medical advances. Do you think doctors today would perform a double by-pass for an iPod? What about a stereo? What about a car? What would a doctor perform these services for? You can't even go to the dentist without spending a minimum of $50. What would a dentist perform his services for? Laptops? Maybe some bras from Victoria's Secret?

We were still largely a rural nation in the 50s and yes indeed my story comes from the 50s in a small mountain town in Northern California. I wasn't proposing barter as a nationwide replacement for our payment system. I was simply commenting upon your post and timeline.

EDIT: You were right about the breaking point being the 50s in rural/urban population. I checked around and except for the 70s rural living has been losing ground steadily since 20s. You were correct on that point, at least nationally.
 
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Heritage guy wants to suggest obamacare was unconstitutional but his idea wasn't. So apparently he cares.

Do you have the right to dump medical costs on to me?




The Supreme Court said that the U.S. government does.
 
No, my post demonstrates the "Responding to what people actually say" phenomenon. you should try it sometimes.

Dana did not claim that the Mandate was concieved by Heritage (Which is also a questionable comment in and of itself, since they weren't hte first to suggest such).

He claimed THE LAW, ie the entiretity of ACA, was "concieved" by Heritage. This isn't just false, it's absurd to a staggering degree.

If he meant something else he should've said something else. You shuffling in to try and clean up the mess and failing to actually respond to any of the legitimate, factual, accurate points I made doesn't magically change that.

The argument that the ACA is a republican invention is an attempt to deflect on the dems own failing law.

Obama is doing it as well-its what they do.
 
besides the mandate being extracted from heritage's proposal was also the expectation that insurers be involved rather than the single payer program used in other industrialized nations
those are the fundamentals of the Obamacare program
ACA expanded upon and improved what the heritage foundation had earlier proposed
no need to get all defensive when it is pointed out that something you posted was in error
you do both quite a bit

Has anyone in the Obama Administration given credit to the Heritage Foundation for their input or are some of their sycophants only trying to pass the responsibility for this boondoggle elsewhere?
 
Has anyone in the Obama Administration given credit to the Heritage Foundation for their input or are some of their sycophants only trying to pass the responsibility for this boondoggle elsewhere?

This law was passed entirely by Democrats. Lets see how accountable they are.
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That clip was painful to watch. Pelosi is so fundamentally dishonest, and I always wonder whether she's sincere and really just this stupid and unaware or if she's deliberately dissembling and is craftier than the average bear.
 
Why won't the Supreme Court, most of the members picked by Republicans, do what conservatives demand and repeal the ACA? It must be another example of the liberal bias I've heard so much about.
 
That clip was painful to watch. Pelosi is so fundamentally dishonest, and I always wonder whether she's sincere and really just this stupid and unaware or if she's deliberately dissembling and is craftier than the average bear.

She knows. She's not an idiot, blame the facial expression on her botox but she certainly knows.
 
Why won't the Supreme Court, most of the members picked by Republicans, do what conservatives demand and repeal the ACA? It must be another example of the liberal bias I've heard so much about.

You seem uninformed. SCOTUS can find aspects of a law unconstitutional-but it can NOT repeal a law.
 
That clip was painful to watch. Pelosi is so fundamentally dishonest, and I always wonder whether she's sincere and really just this stupid and unaware or if she's deliberately dissembling and is craftier than the average bear.

My God!! What does that say abut the people who vote for her and support her!
 
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