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Seattle Restaurant Ejects Customer Wearing Google Glass

Your Star said:
More like throwing someone out of your business because your scared of a piece of tech is kind of douchey.
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AND you can get covert video glasses. So they're only giving in to a perceived, potential "risk".
 
Sherman123 said:
I'm actually struggling to think of examples where we've decisively rejected a technology for the good of 'society'. Personally I love the idea of Google Glass and an increasingly interconnected world. The possibility we're just beginning to scrape looks more and more fantastic every day.
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I'm thinking of that scene from Donnie Darko where the teacher tells the student that perhaps babies might not want to have images beamed directly into their retinas at all times (the homework was something like, create a device for teaching people earlier and more efficiently), that maybe part of their development requires certain periods of darkness and silence. Likewise, some of the happiest and most peaceful times I've been in were when I had zero connection to any devices and zero wi-fi.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Yea, no. Not really. Then Obama works for me and I want him fired.
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Well, there are laws as well as procedures that prevent your want from coming true. Because you cannot fire him doesn't mean he doesn't work for the people - it means he works for ALL the people and not just you. Just because I want my Congressman fired doesn't mean I get it either; that doesn't change the fact he's a public servant and works for me whether I like what he does or not.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
It is also that person's property and they can do with it what they wish.
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Not in my house they can't. And the restaurant is somebodies private property.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Either this, or we need to evolve as a culture to become more comfortable in our skin. I would already recommend to anyone living in this day and age not to do anything in private that they wouldn't want the whole world to find out about because there is no certainty of privacy anymore.

Likewise, maybe we need to question why certain things embarrass us. Why, for instance, does it matter if someone sees you naked? We all have the same bits and pieces anyway.

It will be interesting to see how society adapts and how people change their thinking to cope with the new reality that you really can't have too many secrets anymore.
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You seriously would be OK with the world seeing all of your private actions and hearing your private thoughts?
 
shrubnose said:
That would be a good idea.

I don't deny that property owners are entitled to have rules on things like this, but people need to be informed of those rules before they enter the property.
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It should be common sense to not video people without their consent, and it is ilegal in many states.

Why would you think an establishment would have a sign to prohibit something so new they probably didn't know anything about it?
 
Jerry said:
Or at least put away while at the table.
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I wonder why the customer chose to leave instead of putting them away?

What was he doing with them?

Was he there to eat or video?
 
Mason66 said:
I wonder why the customer chose to leave instead of putting them away?

What was he doing with them?

Was he there to eat or video?
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Sounds like he left in a huff.
 
Peter Grimm said:
No doubt filming someone without their knowledge etc is creepy, but at some point we have to acknowledge and face reality, which is that the technology is getting do small, inconspicuous , and integrated in to our lives that at some point you will no longer be able to stop it.

And to be frank, it's not just other people you need to be worried about, it's your government as well. Look at the NSA thing . That's not an aberration, that's the brave new world. You think you're anonymous online? Think again.

So the question is, do we bitch and complain about it, or do we adapt and thrive. I vote adapt and thrive.

Technology is normally a good thing but it does have a tendency to change the world. Violently, even brutally sometimes, but if history has taught us one thing it's never be on the wrong side on the fence when it comes to embracing a sweeping new technology.
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If you choose to be on the internet and understand your movements are being watched, then that was your choice.

If I go into a restaurant, I did not choose to be videoed and uploaded to Google.

Do you see a difference there?
 
Ockham said:
What other reason exists for wearing them? Did the article state he was NOT filming?
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Exactly, and he chose to leave when challenged instead of taking them off, so it seems he was not there to eat.
 
Mason66 said:
Exactly, and he chose to leave when challenged instead of taking them off, so it seems he was not there to eat.
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Most people's reactions can be ascribed to emotion rather than due to some pre-planned motives.
 
danielpalos said:
I agree. There are watches that can do the same; but they look more fashionable.
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Yup, just saw that in a store! Comes with internet service, email and, you guessed it, camera.
 
Cardinal said:
He wants to prevent people from using smart devices from recording his other patrons, but he's focusing only on one device to the exclusion of all the others that can do it just as well. The only way he could pull off his goal is to, as you say, make his establishment a device free zone. Lots of luck with that one: the ability to regularly check your email and be available to phone calls all the time is so prevalent now that only a decreasing minority of people would be left who would be willing to eat there anymore (read: really really old people).

Look, I understand where the owner is coming from. The Google Glasses are super creepy and when I see a couple on a date just staring at their phones the whole evening it's sad as hell, but as a business decision the owner just really wasn't thinking his through.

One of the only times I can think of where an establishment making a no-device rule would be theaters, where using a smart phone necessitates pissing everyone else off (and which, incidentally, is a component in why fewer people go to the movies these days).
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Would you say a theater owner can ban Google Glasses?
 
SMTA said:
No kidding - Google glasses cannot strip you of multiple rights while pummeling you into a coma while laying helpless on the ground.
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Give it time.

If the police tap into them, the video goes straight to them and when you cross the street where you shouldn't, the police will be there.
 
Cardinal said:
Oh you betcha.
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So why can't a restaurant owner do the same? There are many things that people don't want videoed in a business setting?

There is personal information that can be used to steal identity.

Some control over information must be had to protect customers.
 
Mason66 said:
So why can't a restaurant owner do the same? There are many things that people don't want videoed in a business setting?

There is personal information that can be used to steal identity.

Some control over information must be had to protect customers.
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I didn't say he couldn't. My argument was that his decision was extremely short sighted and futile.
 
Your Star said:
The restaurant owner. Ridiculous to throw someone out over a piece of benign tech.
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So don't sidestep TheNextEra's legitimate suggestion...

Would it be equally ridiculous to throw someone out who had their phone up clearly video taping their entire time in the resturant?

Would it be equally ridiculous to throw someone out who came in with a hand held camcorder, holding it up the whole time?

What about someone coming in with a GoPro cam attached to a helmet as they were in the store?

All are doing the same potentail thing that Google Glass would be doing....video recording in the store. Do you feel that it'd be ridiculous in all those cases as well?

Personally, I doubt I'd toss someone but I'd also understand why you would. As a shop owner you have to at least pay partial mind to what customers may or may not think and the potential issues of customers being video taped when they don't wish to be.
 
Zyphlin said:
So don't sidestep TheNextEra's legitimate suggestion...

Would it be equally ridiculous to throw someone out who had their phone up clearly video taping their entire time in the resturant?

Would it be equally ridiculous to throw someone out who came in with a hand held camcorder, holding it up the whole time?

What about someone coming in with a GoPro cam attached to a helmet as they were in the store?

All are doing the same potentail thing that Google Glass would be doing....video recording in the store. Do you feel that it'd be ridiculous in all those cases as well?

Personally, I doubt I'd toss someone but I'd also understand why you would. As a shop owner you have to at least pay partial mind to what customers may or may not think and the potential issues of customers being video taped when they don't wish to be.
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I think the Google Glass is much worse as what you are videoing can be upload directly to Google and social media. No decision has to be made, it just happens.
 
Ockham said:
What other reason exists for wearing them? Did the article state he was NOT filming?
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It's, essentially, like a smartphone that's hands-free. There's no reason to think he was filming, but utilizing its computer-esque abilities.

jimbo said:
Not in my house they can't. And the restaurant is somebodies private property.
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I agree entirely.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
It's, essentially, like a smartphone that's hands-free. There's no reason to think he was filming, but utilizing its computer-esque abilities.
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Can you quote in the story where it says that? I just re-read the article and it didn't say anything like that and the user in question's facebook page is currently "unavailable". Please don't make things up...
 
Your Star said:
More like throwing someone out of your business because your scared of a piece of tech is kind of douchey.
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I can think of a few things Google Glass is capable of doing well right now: photography is high on the short list. Most of everything else does not work well.

The suspicion is warranted.

In the future, it will be a difficult discussion.
 
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