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George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

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I know .. the world should only see through the eyes of conservatives. No compassion for humanity whatsoever .. not even for the life of a boy who was doing nothing but walking home from the store after getting a bag of candy and a pop.

This is why I make no attempt to change anyone's mind on this issue .. I simply state what I believe, involved in, and clearly see happening. Whether anyone agrees with it or not, the chasm between African-Americans, people of conscience, and republicans can not get any wider than it is today. Is the Martin murder part of that chasm? Of course it is.

Are there consequences for this undeniable truth .. absolutely .. but perhaps this part of the conversation is too deep for this forum.

My comments are directed at no one in particular, but where is the intelligent conversation beyond the partisan clowning?

The poster in question is the one using the death of Trayvon Martin for partisan reasons to paint all republicans/conservatives for some political agenda.
 
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As stated. Your words do.

This is the third time you pass your opinion as fact. It still doesn't make it so. :shrug:
 
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link to these 3 arrests?

AFAIK, he has only been arrested once. During the incident with his wife, he was detained, questioned and released. no charges filed, no arrest made. And you aren't typically arrested for speeding.

5 brushes with the law since his acquittal in July, which was only 4 months ago. Three traffic stops, one accusation of violent behavior and this, his first actual arrest, on three charges. So, no three arrests. I got mixed up in all the numbers, what with all those brushes and resulting charges.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ge-zimmerman-ended-up-behinds-bars-again.html

Regardless, not a good candidate for future expungement. More likely a good one to end up doing time, like at least 10 years. Hell, even OJ didn't run himself into that much trouble within 4 months. And, he's dong at least 15 years now.
 
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Expungement takes five years of clean living...Zimmerman has three arrests in the half-year since his acquittal. And, you're surprised I didn't look at expungement. :doh
As I said, it was because you said lifelong ban without considering it.

But his attorney did say he would be cleared.
So don't fret.
Maybe he will move next door to you and you can become fast friends.
 
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5 brushes with the law since his acquittal in July, which was only 4 months ago. Three traffic stops, one accusation of violent behavior and this, his first actual arrest, on three charges. So, no three arrests. I got mixed up in all the numbers, what with all those brushes and resulting charges.

How George Zimmerman Ended Up Behind Bars Again

again, calling getting pulled over for speeding a "brush with the law" is disingenuous at best.

I'm not defending Zimmerman or claiming he is a model citizen. But there is enough bad about him without resorting to exaggeration and misrepresentation of the facts.
 
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This is the third time you pass your opinion as fact. It still doesn't make it so. :shrug:

The problem with your position is that is only your opinion.
Your words were inflammatory. That isn't an opinion.
You making such a false distinction is in fact purposely inflammatory.
And you know it is.
 
He threatened to kill himself, saying he has nothing to lose. That makes me wonder of he was thinking murder/suicide.

But there are conflicting stories about the pregnancy too. Who would lie about being pregnant to the cops?


I don't know why he didn't go ahead and shoot her. Pregnant women are scary.
 
He threatened to kill himself, saying he has nothing to lose. That makes me wonder of he was thinking murder/suicide.

But there are conflicting stories about the pregnancy too. Who would lie about being pregnant to the cops?
Maybe it was she who lied to him about a pregnancy. :shrug:
 
Maybe it was she who lied to him about a pregnancy. :shrug:

Or maybe he lied. Why doesn't that ever factor in your assessment of Zimmerman?

The woman didn't even bring up being pregnant to anyone. Think about it.
 
Or maybe he lied. Why doesn't that ever factor in your assessment of Zimmerman?
:doh Wtf?
I pointed out that it may have come from the other side.
You do understand what the "other side" means, right?

Why would I point out the same that I was replying to? Why?
That makes no sense.



The woman didn't even bring up being pregnant to anyone. Think about it.
Go research before typing.
 
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trayvon left 7/11 at ~6:24pm. the 7/11 was 0.8 miles from brandy green's apt. zimmerman did not spot trayvon until 7:11pm. that's 47 minutes after trayvon left the store. had trayvon simply been "walking home from the store" he would have been home long before Zimmerman ever had a chance to spot him.

and remember, trayvon was still a considerable distance from BG's at the time Z first saw him. trayvon had covered less than 1/2 mile in 47 minutes. obviously he was doing something other than simply walking home from the store.

That doesn't mean he was up to no good.
 
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What bothers me is the willingness of people to find him guilty in the TM case based on completely unrelated incidents. People need to realize your innocence and guilt isn't defined by character or popularity

There are several "incidents" that make me seriously doubt his response to Martin coming out of the dark and asking if he has a problem was a Miquetoastey "No, I don't have a problem."
 
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what evidence do you have that he was guilty in the TM case? It seemed that he was pretty clearly exonerated based on what the forensics evidence told us, not character appeals.

Nobody but Z knows how the altercation started.

It is entirely possible that M was defending himself from a percieved threat by Z.

The end of the fight doesn't prove how it started. The pross didn't make their case.

They might have had they gone for manslaughter from the gate.

As it is, there wasn't evidence for murder 2 and going for it precluded all "accidental" killing verdicts.
 
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I never said it did......

What you said could have been read in that context.
 
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What you said could have been read in that context.

and that's not my problem. I am not responsible for what other people infer from my posts.

as I said later on, I brought it up to point out that his actions could have been seen as suspicious by a passerby.
 
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1. it was less than a 10 minute walk from the 7/11 to where Zimmerman first spotted Martin. he left the store nearly 45 minutes before Zimmerman saw him. even if he was standing still the entire time he was on the phone with DeeDee, he should have been home 10-15 minutes before Zimmerman ever left his home. So just WTF was Trayvon doing, because it obviously wasn't just innocently walking home.

2. from the time Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon until the confrontation took place, nearly 4 minutes elapsed. Trayvon was less than 100m from "home", why did he not simply go home? he had plenty of time to "evade" Zimmerman in the dark and make it home without being followed.

From various snippets, including some of those text messages, I suspect he was trying to score some weed.
 
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Did I say there was a video of it?
Or did I say that his injuries are consistent and support the claim, which is evidence of? And that no gun was seen out but Trayvon was seen on-top?
We already know what Rachel said (Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first) is also consistent with Zimmerman's claim of being attacked.

You don't cry out for help in a mutual confrontation. But you do when you are attacked.

Stop the silliness. He was attacked.


Trayvon was seen on-top with movement that appeared to be raining down blows on Zimmerman (which is consistent with the claim).
That is not a fight.
Stop the silliness. He was attacked.



The case has already been tried. We already know it was Trayvon.


So you really are that uninformed about the case. :doh
Witness testimony of seeing no gun. Which means it wasn't out.

And had Zimmerman pulled his gun out prior to, Trayvon would have said so to Rachel, who as we all know, was being told everything by him. Yet not even a heard exclamation.

And he would have called out to the witness (John) to help saying the guy he was pummeling had a gun.
Yet he didn't, he ignored the witnesses words just like an attacker would do.

Funny you leave out the possibility of Z GOING for his gun (rather than his "phone", maybe he had that new iGun).

And that the conversation with Rachel ended at the very beginning of the confrontation.

No one will EVER know what really went down unless Z writes an "If I Did It." book.
 
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true, but you can't claim that he was afraid and in fear for his life if he was walking up and down the street instead of getting to safety.

point being. if Trayvon was afraid, he would/should have gone home. he did not. he chose to stop and wait in the dark for Zimmerman. In order to, as could be argued, teach that "creepy ass cracker" a lesson for daring to follow him.

'Course he coulda been catching his breath and calming down an hysterical female on the phone.

You also don't have a problem with it taking Z 2 1/2 minutes to cover a distance he walked in twenty seconds in the walkthrough. (During that same 4 minutes)
 
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Funny you leave out the possibility of Z GOING for his gun (rather than his "phone", maybe he had that new iGun).
Funny?
What is funny is that you keep bringing up what is not possible within the evidence.


And that the conversation with Rachel ended at the very beginning of the confrontation.
:doh
We have already been over this and you know you are wrong.

As he was not seen in the immediate area when Zimmerman passed the first time, he was either laying in wait, or came back down from where he was and then confronted Zimmerman on his pass back to his vehicle. Any way you look at that, it is a purposeful confrontation by Trayvon and had nothing to do with a gun.
And keep in mind, both Zimmerman and Rachel confirm it was Trayvon confronting Zimmerman first.
Now we have one witness who said she heard running going in the direction where Zimmerman said he was located. That goes to the underlined above.
And this confrontation was about Zimmerman following him.

Zimmerman indicated that Trayvon approached in a hasty manner (he was there, and then he was here) and was asking his question on approach in a hostile way (yelling). (that is attacking)
Zimmerman look up and was immediately knocked down.
You want to suggest that somehow Trayvon saw Zimmerman's gun and struck him for that when he was already in the process of attacking. Which is ridiculous and not in accord with the evidence.
Trayvon's initial confrontation (question) that occurred in the process of his attack was heard by Rachel. Which was about being followed. Not about a gun you want to suggest he may have seen.
Had he seen the gun just prior to striking Zimmerman, he would have made some type of exclamation that Rachel also would have heard. Yet none was heard. She says that she even heard more after the initial confrontation, none which had to do with any thing about a gun.

Then seconds later when John came out and told him to stop, which Zimmerman heard (meaning Trayvon would have to), Trayvon never once indicated to John that he needed help because the guy had a gun, or that he wasn't going to stop because the guy had a gun. Which is something that would have been said. Instead he ignored him just like an attacker would do.

No. Given the evidence we have, his attack had nothing to do with seeing any gun, but with his dislike of being followed.

Trayvon was playing his own little game of knockout and most likely being egged on by Rachel.

No one will EVER know what really went down unless Z writes an "If I Did It." book.
He already told us what happened. So we already know.
 
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That's what all the Mafiosi say
Try to stay within the context of this.
Zimmerman came to the aid of a friend against an aggressor who he did not know was a cop until later.
His actions were noble.
 
I think you're the one being unreasonable to accuse him of hating white people.. This forum is here to discuss issues, and you're coming off like you're offended by his opinion because you assume he is black. Instead of getting offended, try talking it out.


What is incredible is if you read my past posting history you would know I was big supporter of Martin in his right to stand his ground against a threat that was following him that night. But your own hatred towards white folks and conservatives in perticaular won't allow you to accept those terms.

So rant away.....and show the forum members what angry blackman sounds like.
 
So this just came out -

UPDATED: George Zimmerman's girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, has refused to appear on camera until she gets a paid national interview, WKMG-Channel 6 reported Wednesday night.

WKMG's Erik Sandoval broke the story of Scheibe's personal details about her relationship with Zimmerman in a report at 11 p.m. Tuesday.

"I did actually speak to her at noon today after our story aired last night at 11," Sandoval said at 6 p.m. Wednesday. "She wants to make it absolutely clear. She says that she and her daughter did not set Zimmerman up for what happened on Monday at her home in Apopka."
George Zimmerman girlfriend: I did not set him up - Orlando Sentinel

She'll wait to talk until she gets a paid national interview. Charming.
 
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