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George Zimmerman Arrested Again In Central Florida [W:351]

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Verax said:
I know! Its almost like he thought he had the right to walk around in public.
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you also have the right to step out into traffic. just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it a good idea or make you immune from the consequences.

you also have the right to follow someone and ask them a simple question.....
 
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shrubnose said:
Since Trayvon Martin is dead and buried it's not likely that he will be disputing your eyewitness account of an incident which you didn't see happen.
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He can't contradict the person he was talking to either.
He confronted Zimmerman first.
So what is your point?
 
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opendebate said:
Every time you are effectively challenged you call it spin, you must be feeling pretty dizzy.
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:doh:lamo:doh
You haven't effectively challenge anything.
But you have been shown to be spinning and providing false assertions.
 
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Looks to me like Zimmerman/TOT looked into DP and noticed that the “Zimmerman Forum “has been taken down. Time to resurrect Looks to me like Zimmerman/TOT looked into DP and noticed that the “Zimmerman Forum “has been taken down. Time to resurrect Lazarus??????:shock:
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
I don't see where that was said. Although, I do agree that him being out a long time is irrelevant. The kid has a right to go wherever he wants. He could walk up and down the street 350 times for all I'd care.
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true, but you can't claim that he was afraid and in fear for his life if he was walking up and down the street instead of getting to safety.

point being. if Trayvon was afraid, he would/should have gone home. he did not. he chose to stop and wait in the dark for Zimmerman. In order to, as could be argued, teach that "creepy ass cracker" a lesson for daring to follow him.
 
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Barbarian said:
What is incredible is if you read my past posting history you would know I was big supporter of Martin in his right to stand his ground against a threat that was following him that night. But your own hatred towards white folks and conservatives in perticaular won't allow you to accept those terms.

So rant away.....and show the forum members what angry blackman sounds like.
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You can't stand your ground until you are attacked or being criminally victimized. Following somebody isn't a criminal act.
 
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Excon said:
Did I say there was a video of it?
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I said there was no video, you said I was wrong. Since I was wrong there must be a video, I simply asked for you to provide a link.

What? No video. That's what I said.


Excon said:
Or did I say that his injuries are consistent and support the claim, which is evidence of? And that no gun was seen out but Trayvon was seen on-top?
We already know what Rachel said (Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first) is also consistent with Zimmerman's claim of being attacked.

You don't cry out for help in a mutual confrontation. But you do when you are attacked.
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Zimmerman didn't cry out for help until AFTER the fight started. That is not indicative of who started the fight, only that Zimmerman was losing.


Excon said:
Stop the silliness. He was attacked.
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And I acknowledge your opinion in the matter.

I personally don't know.

I do know that the only person alive on the planet that knows is Zimmerman and he shot Martin so Martin can't speak and on top of that Zimmerman has shown a willingness to lie to the court.


Excon said:
Trayvon was seen on-top with movement that appeared to be raining down blows on Zimmerman (which is consistent with the claim).
That is not a fight.
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Ahhh - yes it is. What is unknown is who started the fight.


Excon said:
Stop the silliness. He was attacked.
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And I acknowledge your opinion in the matter.

I personally don't know.

I do know that the only person alive on the planet that knows is Zimmerman and he shot Martin so Martin can't speak and on top of that Zimmerman has shown a willingness to lie to the court.



Excon said:
The case has already been tried. We already know it was Trayvon.
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Agreed.

The prosecution failed to prove a case and the jury made the right call. Yes we know Trayvon is the dead one.




Excon said:
So you really are that uninformed about the case. :doh
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Very informed.


Excon said:
Witness testimony of seeing no gun. Which means it wasn't out.
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No it means that the witness didn't see it.

In addition brandishing a weapon does not mean it has to be removed from the holster. You know that right?

Excon said:
And had Zimmerman pulled his gun out prior to, Trayvon would have said so to Rachel, who as we all know, was being told everything by him. Yet not even a heard exclamation.
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Faulty logic. The phone call ended immediately after contact. It's illogical to assume that Martin was going to continue to describe to Rachel what was happening after he'd dropped the phone and the call ended.

Excon said:
And he would have called out to the witness (John) to help saying the guy he was pummeling had a gun.
Yet he didn't, he ignored the witnesses words just like an attacker would do.
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Again you incorrectly assume that threatening with a gun requires the removal of the gun from the holster. It doesn't.


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OscarB63 said:
you also have the right to step out into traffic. just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it a good idea or make you immune from the consequences.
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You guys are something else. The way you view things to make them ok in your head blows me away.
 
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Barbarian said:
I see another person that don't understand stand your ground laws.
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Stand your ground essentially means no duty to retreat.

And another person who doesn't realize that following someone isn't a criminal act.
 
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I agree that zimmerman is an idiot. And I agree that nobody knows who started the fight. If there is reasonable doubt, you do not convict. Ever.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Stand your ground essentially means no duty to retreat.

And another person who doesn't realize that following someone isn't a criminal act.
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Didn't say you can't follow another person......just that person you're following doesn't have to retreat.
 
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Barbarian said:
Didn't say you can't follow another person......just that person you're following doesn't have to retreat.
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Following somebody isn't an attack.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Following somebody isn't an attack.
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Go follow people in the dark and see how long it takes you to have a problem with somebody. I guarantee it will end badly 9 times out 10. Who's fault is that?
 
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Verax said:
Go follow people in the dark and see how long it takes you to have a problem with somebody. I guarantee it will end badly 9 times out 10. Who's fault is that?
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I wish I had luxury of Zimmerman following me that night. ;)
 
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Verax said:
Go follow people in the dark and see how long it takes you to have a problem with somebody. I guarantee it will end badly 9 times out 10. Who's fault is that?
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I have no interest in following anybody unless there is a really good reason. I am not saying zimmerman had a good reason. But if the person I am following physically attacks me without me physically attacking them first, then it is their fault it ended badly.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
No it isn't. You can perceive it that way, but perception isnt fact.
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If someone is following you in his vehicle then gets out to following you on foot.

My advise is to view that person as serious threat. You life my be depended on it.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
I have no interest in following anybody unless there is a really good reason. I am not saying zimmerman had a good reason. But if the person I am following physically attacks me without me physically attacking them first, then it is their fault it ended badly.
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Does that sound like justice to you? Following somebody until they attack you and then shoot them in self defense... its utterly ridiculous.
 
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Verax said:
You guys are something else. The way you view things to make them ok in your head blows me away.
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I have the right to drive into the middle of the project, get out of my car and start yelling "nigger". If i get my ass beat or get shot, then am I completely blameless?

trayvon had a right to be there and be walking around. zimmerman had a right to be there and broke no laws by following him. trayvon did not have a right to punch zimmerman in the face or climb on top of him after he'd knocked him to the ground.
 
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Barbarian said:
If someone is following you in his vehicle then gets out to following you on foot.

My advise is to view that person as serious threat. You life my be depended on it.
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my further advice is to not stop and wait for them to catch you on a darkened sidewalk.
 
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Barbarian said:
If someone is following you in his vehicle then gets out to following you on foot.

My advise is to view that person as serious threat. You life my be depended on it.
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If I viewed it as a serious threat and I was unarmed and close to home, I would have fled home. I have been in similar scenarios before.
 
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Verax said:
Does that sound like justice to you? Following somebody until they attack you and then shoot them in self defense... its utterly ridiculous.
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following someone is not a crime....... attacking someone for following you is.
 
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