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Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

Conservative said:
Your opinion noted. How can someone with your supposed intelligence continue to support the incompetent in the WH right now? Have those shovels arrived yet for those shovel ready jobs?
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Baloney, it not opinion, it's fact, deal with it.
 
haymarket said:
Could you please present the figures which would establish that this would be possible without threatening the overall sustainability of the program for those who do not opt out?
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Nope. I don't have such figures.

But I'd be open to listening to the bean counters' suggestions on how to gradually eliminate the system.
 
pbrauer said:
Baloney, it not opinion, it's fact, deal with it.
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You hired Obama to fix the economy for us, how has that worked out for you and cite the specific results generated? He said he had the answers, did he?
 
Conservative said:
Nope, Bush handed Obama a recession and a 10.6 trillion dollar debt. Today that debt is 17.1 trillion and the economic growths stagnant. 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers are in a depression.
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False. Economic growth is at 2-/2 percent.
 
Conservative said:
You hired Obama to fix the economy for us, how has that worked out for you and cite the specific results generated? He said he had the answers, did he?
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I didn't hire him to fix the economy, I voted for him for President of the United States. My stock market investments are worth much more now than when he first became president.
 
calamity said:
False. Economic growth is at 2-/2 percent.
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And how much of that is due to govt. spending which creates debt? You think 2.5% GDP growth is strong? At this time after the 81-82 recession Reagan had over 7% GDP growth and had created millions more jobs than what he inherited. You simply buy what you are told and are incapable of doing any research.
 
pbrauer said:
I didn't hire him to fix the economy, I voted for him for President of the United States. My stock market investments are worth much more now than when he first became president.
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Good, so those evil rich people are doing so much better under Obama. Thanks for showing exactly who you are. You voted for someone whose resume showed he was unqualified and now support results that show that resume accurate.
 
Conservative said:
Good, so those evil rich people are doing so much better under Obama. Thanks for showing exactly who you are. You voted for someone whose resume showed he was unqualified and now support results that show that resume accurate.
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I have a new Christmas wish.

That Conservative will get some new material.
 
Conservative said:
You hired Obama to fix the economy for us, how has that worked out for you and cite the specific results generated? He said he had the answers, did he?
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He ended the recession within 6 months of taking office and brought us up into positive GDP growth in less than a year. So, yes. He did as promised.

And, everyone knows, the reason growth rates are not higher right now is due to GOP austerity measures. Here's a comment from someone who understands the economy far more than you possibly could.

Yellen reminded lawmakers of their sheer terribleness during a Senate Banking Committee hearing on Thursday about her nomination to replace Bernanke as chair of the Federal Reserve when his term ends in January. Republican senators moaned and groaned, as usual, about the Fed's extreme easy-money policies. Yellen reminded everybody that Congress has forced the Fed to act by constantly imposing harsh austerity measures on an economy still recovering from a financial crisis and deep recession.

"Fiscal policy has been working at cross purposes to monetary policy," Yellen said. "Some of the near-term reductions in spending that we have seen have certainly detracted from the momentum of the economy and from demand, making it harder for the Fed to get the economy moving, making our task more difficult.

"We are worried about a fragile recovery, and a more supportive fiscal policy, or one that at least had less drag, that did no harm, would make life easier," she added later.

Yellen was referring to the austerity that has come out of a rolling series of debt crises instigated by Republicans...

Janet Yellen Shames Congress For Austerity, Being Terrible
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Conservative said:
Good, so those evil rich people are doing so much better under Obama. Thanks for showing exactly who you are. You voted for someone whose resume showed he was unqualified and now support results that show that resume accurate.
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So now you begrudge a rising stock market, as well as GDP growth achieved under Obama despite austerity from the GOP. You're clearly a partisan hack.
 
Conservative said:
Good, so those evil rich people are doing so much better under Obama. Thanks for showing exactly who you are. You voted for someone whose resume showed he was unqualified and now support results that show that resume accurate.
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I've never considered some one evil based upon how rich they, apparently you do, which is sad.
 
Conservative said:
And how much of that is due to govt. spending which creates debt? You think 2.5% GDP growth is strong? At this time after the 81-82 recession Reagan had over 7% GDP growth and had created millions more jobs than what he inherited. You simply buy what you are told and are incapable of doing any research.
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You must not understand economics. Only those ignorant of the fundamentals would think a recovery can occur without government spending.
 
calamity said:
He ended the recession within 6 months of taking office and brought us up into positive GDP growth in less than a year. So, yes. He did as promised.

And, everyone knows, the reason growth rates are not higher right now is due to GOP austerity measures. Here's a comment from someone who understands the economy far more than you possibly could.



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I am sure that is what you want to believe but the results say differently especially since those shovel never got to those shovel ready jobs. What economic policies did Obama put into place that brought us out of Recession 5 months after taking office? Obamabots will never get it.

Tell the millions and millions of people unemployed/under employed/discouraged that the recession is over.

Govt spending is what generated that "booming" GDP that you claim exists and all that really did is put lipstick on a pig.
 
pbrauer said:
I've never considered some one evil based upon how rich they, apparently you do, which is sad.
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You know better than that which is similar to what I know about you, you aren't this naïve, gullible, and poorly informed.
 
calamity said:
So now you begrudge a rising stock market, as well as GDP growth achieved under Obama despite austerity from the GOP. You're clearly a partisan hack.
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You really are very poorly informed and I can see why Obama loves having people like you. Why do you think the stock market is at record highs and how does that benefit the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers? Why is it that with that booming economy, Obama has a 40% JAR?
 
calamity said:
You must not understand economics. Only those ignorant of the fundamentals would think a recovery can occur without government spending.
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Govt. spending is supposed to be temporary but Obama has made it permanent as evidenced by his 3.77 trillion dollar proposed budget. How many votes did that get?
 
Green Man said:
Nope. I don't have such figures.

But I'd be open to listening to the bean counters' suggestions on how to gradually eliminate the system.
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Why would you suggest something which is not thought out?
 
Conservative said:
Govt. spending is supposed to be temporary but Obama has made it permanent as evidenced by his 3.77 trillion dollar proposed budget. How many votes did that get?
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Were Reagan's spending increases "temporary"? He tripled debt, and as a result his economy recovered because no one imposed austerity on it.
 
Conservative said:
You know better than that which is similar to what I know about you, you aren't this naïve, gullible, and poorly informed.
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Stop saying rich people are evil, unless you really mean it. Got it?
 
Conservative said:
You really are very poorly informed and I can see why Obama loves having people like you. Why do you think the stock market is at record highs and how does that benefit the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers? Why is it that with that booming economy, Obama has a 40% JAR?
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Stocks are soaring mostly due to monetary policy.
Jobs are stagnant due to GOP austerity.

From the Yellen article above:
Yellen was referring to the austerity that has come out of a rolling series of debt crises instigated by Republicans in the past few years, including the deep budget cuts known as sequestration and this year's payroll-tax increase. Under pressure from Republicans, the federal government has cut spending at the fastest pace since the end of the Vietnam War. Government investment has tumbled to its lowest level as a percentage of GDP since 1948.

This belt-tightening has probably cost the economy nearly 2.5 million jobs, according to a recent study by the Center For American Progress, a liberal think tank -- one huge reason this has been the slowest job-market recovery since World War II. Economists on the right and left agree austerity has hurt economic growth, employment and consumer spending, with executives from Walmart and Cisco among the most recent capitalists to complain about it.
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haymarket said:
Why would you suggest something which is not thought out?
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As I said, I consider it immoral to rob Peter to pay Paul, so I think that the federal government should get out of that business. I leave it up to the bean-counters to figure out how to get the job done.
 
calamity said:
Stocks are soaring mostly due to monetary policy.
Jobs are stagnant due to GOP austerity.
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So the job stagnation is solely due to austerity? You honestly believe that?
 
Fishstyx said:
So the job stagnation is solely due to austerity? You honestly believe that?
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Yellen knows far more about the economy than you, I or that "Conservative" dude up there who thinks Bush did a fine job. Bernake, a Republican, by the way, has said the same thing as Yellen for years. So, yes.

By the way CEOs from Wal-Mart to Cisco concur. THey know more than you do too.
 
calamity said:
Yellen knows far more about the economy than you, I or that "Conservative" dude up there who thinks Bush did a fine job. Bernake, a Republican, by the way, has said the same thing as Yellen for years. So, yes.

By the way CEOs from Wal-Mart to Cisco concur. THey know more than you do too.
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Yellin nor the CEOs of Wal-Mart and Cisco are all knowing and infallible orrrr devoid of political posturing. Funny, Wal-Mart and Cisco are also saying we need to pass the immigration reform because there aren't enough Americans to fill all the jobs that need filling. Do you believe that too?

As far as sequestration (which is the only austerity thats occurred since the rest of the "cuts" have been cuts in increases, not real cuts), the major impact on jobs falls in the cuts to Defense spending, something, correct me if I'm wrong, is something that the President and the Democrat Party have been screaming for for decades.

And I wonder if Ms. Yellen would include that the stagnation is being contributed too by massive growth in economic restrictive regulations? Obamacare, EPA, etc?
 
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