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Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89:106]

Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

How disappointing....And we had such a good conversation before. If by me trying to get you to see the hypocrisy of your posting style by calling a hispanic american a "pig" is not something that you are specifically accusing baselessly others of doing, then it is truly disappointing....

That's all.

I didn't call just any Hispanic American a pig, I called Ted Cruz a pig if I remember correctly. I'm willing to up the ante on that too! And your crude accusation of me calling an Hispanic American a pig doesn't go unnoticed. It's an invalid accusation to me simply because the fact that he's of Hispanic descent was never a consideration to me. Understand that I'm not American and so consequently your country's propensity for turning everything into racial slurs for your own dishonest reasons is not on my agenda.

No, we never did have a good or honest conversation. You were only perhaps feeling a little generous for a few minutes because you wrongly thought I had seen some kind of agreement with your rightwing political agenda. You were wrong in thinking that. I voiced some agreement with sane and valid points on which I could agree with decent people of rational conservative mindset. I'm not totally convinced that's not you and never will be.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

I didn't call just any Hispanic American a pig, I called Ted Cruz a pig if I remember correctly. I'm willing to up the ante on that too! And your crude accusation of me calling an Hispanic American a pig doesn't go unnoticed. It's an invalid accusation to me simply because the fact that he's of Hispanic descent was never a consideration to me. Understand that I'm not American and so consequently your country's propensity for turning everything into racial slurs for your own dishonest reasons is not on my agenda.

No, we never did have a good or honest conversation. You were only perhaps feeling a little generous for a few minutes because you wrongly thought I had seen some kind of agreement with your rightwing political agenda. You were wrong in thinking that. I voiced some agreement with sane and valid points on which I could agree with decent people of rational conservative mindset. I'm not totally convinced that's not you and never will be.

And so, minus the name-calling and anti-American nastiness, what would be your point?:peace
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Extremist ideas to say the least, yet some extraordinary measures are surely in order to deal with the racism and hating that is consuming the teabaggers. But it's most likely going to take a move from within the Republican party to rid itself of the teabagger infestation that is destroying them without the Dems having to lift a finger.

What is not extremist about your ideas is that the teabagger movement is destroying your country and if that doesn't get the attention of the average American then it has to be because your people have become so braindead that they don't deserve a free and democratic country that takes it's place in the modern world.

Tell me something. is racism always the problem to you lefties? Just curious.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Tell me something. is racism always the problem to you lefties? Just curious.

Leftists have always been racist, and still are. They use the classic propaganda theme of accusing others of what you are doing yourself. The Communists were the masters of this and Saul Alinsky, the original 'Community Organizer', was of that school.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Oh I have a very good grasp of history- which you choose to ignore. George Washington could be called a terrible general, he could never win a set piece battle, was constantly being defeated and chased about. The Union's start in the Civil War was disaster after disaster and yet final triumph was obtained. WWII was a disaster in the Pacific and our first major land battle in North Africa a debacle- Kasserine Pass. Our manned space program a early disaster...
This isn't a war... then again it is a war against the people.

It didn't take Amazon 3-years to set up an error free website. Our government though, proved to be so pathetic it could only enroll 6 people out of hundreds of millions on its first day.

Not only is the website a Scud, blowing up in people's faces, the entire program is a Scud. Costs are rising, insurers are canceling, services are forced on people who do not want or need them. You see... I have a penis... I don't need or want mammograms or abortion services.

This Obamakare is misery, like most Socialist schemes.


Anytime the government put their **** covered fingers into the free market, you get ****. You see, if you mix raisins with turds, you're still eating turds. Get the government out of healthcare, and like computers, or cell phones, or whatever service or product is provided, prices will go down due to competition.

It's fact. Jack.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Moderator's Warning:
I wonder who will be next on my list..........
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Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

This isn't a war... then again it is a war against the people. It didn't take Amazon 3-years to set up an error free website. Our government though, proved to be so pathetic it could only enroll 6 people out of hundreds of millions on its first day. Not only is the website a Scud, blowing up in people's faces, the entire program is a Scud. Costs are rising, insurers are canceling, services are forced on people who do not want or need them. You see... I have a penis... I don't need or want mammograms or abortion services. This Obamakare is misery, like most Socialist schemes. Anytime the government put their **** covered fingers into the free market, you get ****. You see, if you mix raisins with turds, you're still eating turds. Get the government out of healthcare, and like computers, or cell phones, or whatever service or product is provided, prices will go down due to competition. It's fact. Jack.

The CON game continues. Facts need not be part of the CON game, but let's review what you avoid- The Government regulates food production and it hasn't gone up 138% when the rest of the economy is running roughly a 25%. The government regulates a great many things that provide stable economy. When the government doesn't is when we suffer like in 1929 and then 2008 after long periods of removing government regulation and oversight a massive collapse occurred. (banking collapses ruined many Americans throughout time until the Federal Government stepped in to regulate banking and guarantee deposits.)

But CONs prefer to not admit facts. War is the primary function of the Federal Government according to most CONs, Our history is riddled with examples of poor starts to war- 6 signed up for ACA is nothing compared to our defeats in the Revolutionary war, the Civil War, Pearl Harbor and the Phillipinnes- the first major land battle in North Africa... so you can't be dismissive of those because it doesn't fit your partisanship. Moving on the Space Program had a DISASTROUS start, yet most CONs would point to the 'space race' with pride...

Oh I have no doubt you have a penis, but then again what is the 'surcharge' you pay for lacking a vagina? What is that cost? Then again women are paying for free prostrate exams for men. Your whine is extremely self centered with little if any regard to the real surcharge we pay for un and under insured Americans. :roll:

Given that the cost of medical care has gone up 138% vs the rest of the economy at around 25% with little government regulation I'd say your 'free market' mantra is bogus. The medical field has had a long run at this competition thing and it seems the only real competition is to see who can charge the most the quickiest

And that's a fact Jack.... :)
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

The CON game continues.
Republicans did not vote for this mess. It's your game. You folks own it.
Facts need not be part of the CON game, but let's review what you avoid- The Government regulates food production and it hasn't gone up 138% when the rest of the economy is running roughly a 25%. The government regulates a great many things that provide stable economy. When the government doesn't is when we suffer like in 1929 and then 2008 after long periods of removing government regulation and oversight a massive collapse occurred. (banking collapses ruined many Americans throughout time until the Federal Government stepped in to regulate banking and guarantee deposits.)
The government, as it always does, prolonged the 1929 crash.

Government caused the 2008 failings by forcing banks to make loans to people who could not pay them back. Go to youtube and find the vid of Cuomo stating loans will go under; he just didn't think so many that it would knock three legs from the stool.

yada... yada... yada
We've pumped trillions upon trillions into the economy... and what do we have to show for it? What has our wise government bought with all our trillions? NOTHING! Things are worse than when Obama came to office.

Had he cut taxes... had he cut regulations, had he cut government and its expenses... we would be somewhere. It works every time. Democrats once believed this too, but now they're a bunch of Demokrats and Socialism is their clarion call.

"The cupboard is bare." remember that bit of Pelosi idiocy?

Oh I have no doubt you have a penis, but then again what is the 'surcharge' you pay for lacking a vagina? What is that cost? Then again women are paying for free prostrate exams for men. Your whine is extremely self centered with little if any regard to the real surcharge we pay for un and under insured Americans. :roll:
Why don't we pay for what WE want instead of some shell game that Obama and the Demokrats think we should play. What's that old chestnut? Keep your Rosaries out of my ovaries... well... why is government now the decider? Are we too stupid that we need a distant, slow and corrupt government to run our lives for us? Perhaps you do!
Given that the cost of medical care has gone up 138% vs the rest of the economy at around 25% with little government regulation I'd say your 'free market' mantra is bogus. The medical field has had a long run at this competition thing and it seems the only real competition is to see who can charge the most the quickiest
Free markets always drive costs down... and government is known for... rising costs, crappier service, slower service... the Great Government Trifecta. You done be Trifecta's from behind and you don't even know it. Enjoy!


How's your signup going? Were you one of the LUCKY 6?
 
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Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Republicans did not vote for this mess. It's your game. You folks own it. The government, as it always does, prolonged the 1929 crash. Government caused the 2008 failings by forcing banks to make loans to people who could not pay them back. Go to youtube and find the vid of Cuomo stating loans will go under; he just didn't think so many that it would knock three legs from the stool. Why don't we pay for what WE want instead of some shell game that Obama and the Demokrats think we should play. What's that old chestnut? Keep your Rosaries out of my ovaries... well... why is government now the decider? Are we too stupid that we need a distant, slow and corrupt government to run our lives for us? Perhaps you do! Free markets always drive costs down... and government is known for... rising costs, crappier service, slower service... the Great Government Trifecta. You done be Trifecta's from behind and you don't even know it. Enjoy! How's your signup going? Were you one of the LUCKY 6?

More CONvoluted history. The CON game is the distorted and ignored facts to try and make up a new history.

Ignore the fact that government lack of regulation CAUSED both the 1929 and 2008 Crash. Someone less right wing partisan would argue the GOP in both instances fought hard to block and gut any attempt to help in the recovery. (the GOP was for TARP under BushII then firmly against it under Obama :roll: )

The Government didn't force banks to make marginal loans... The banks were running out of prime loans so they begged for changes to 'help' those they traditionally discriminated against. The CONs make great hay out of Fannie and Freddie losing so much money but overlook much of the loss was misrepresented loans from the semi sacred private sector, the laundry list of banking scandals to include BOA's latest and now record penalties show this.

But ignore facts to try and twist history as part of the CON game!

You ignore every good example of how government regulation has stabilized our economy with no real proof it is the government increases prices (hasn't in the food sector) slower service (hasn't in the auto industry) Crappier service... hell the private sector has that one sown up- if you get out of the house much and deal with it much.

My wife and I are self insured and been that way for at least a decade now. We have seen the crappy ugly side of healthcare. We gave up pretending being under insured was a responsible thing to do. We both served in the Army so 'every man for himself' isn't our credo. We both know if we really needed a crappy insurance plan it would not pay enough to keep us out of bankruptcy.

As far as I know our insurance meets the ACA requirements so we can keep our insurance. If it doesn't we won't scream "our insurance was dropped!" No Sir we wil buy the plan that best fits us and is ACA compliant.

Don't know if you are married or single but for couples of one each of the sexes, having preventative and treatment coverages for both penises and vaginas is a very good thang.... :peace
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

More CONvoluted history. The CON game is the distorted and ignored facts to try and make up a new history.

Ignore the fact that government lack of regulation CAUSED both the 1929 and 2008 Crash. Someone less right wing partisan would argue the GOP in both instances fought hard to block and gut any attempt to help in the recovery. (the GOP was for TARP under BushII then firmly against it under Obama :roll: )

The Government didn't force banks to make marginal loans... The banks were running out of prime loans so they begged for changes to 'help' those they traditionally discriminated against. The CONs make great hay out of Fannie and Freddie losing so much money but overlook much of the loss was misrepresented loans from the semi sacred private sector, the laundry list of banking scandals to include BOA's latest and now record penalties show this.

But ignore facts to try and twist history as part of the CON game!

You ignore every good example of how government regulation has stabilized our economy with no real proof it is the government increases prices (hasn't in the food sector) slower service (hasn't in the auto industry) Crappier service... hell the private sector has that one sown up- if you get out of the house much and deal with it much.

My wife and I are self insured and been that way for at least a decade now. We have seen the crappy ugly side of healthcare. We gave up pretending being under insured was a responsible thing to do. We both served in the Army so 'every man for himself' isn't our credo. We both know if we really needed a crappy insurance plan it would not pay enough to keep us out of bankruptcy.

As far as I know our insurance meets the ACA requirements so we can keep our insurance. If it doesn't we won't scream "our insurance was dropped!" No Sir we wil buy the plan that best fits us and is ACA compliant.

Don't know if you are married or single but for couples of one each of the sexes, having preventative and treatment coverages for both penises and vaginas is a very good thang.... :peace


Your revisionist history, and ignorant phraseology calling political opponents to your own socialistic view of what you think this country should be is disgusting. Most people have coverage for basic services like what you are talking about here, yet you distort, and paint a false picture of just the opposite. All because you want your BC pills for free, or condoms for free.

The history of the CRA started by Carter, and ramped up by Clinton is legendary for the pressure it put on banks to make those bad loans, then easing regulation so that banks could mitigate the risk of that. In hearings before the crash, it was republicans that put pressure on regulators, and the regulators themselves that were screaming for more regulation power, and demo's viciously attack the premise of the hearings defending the criminal Franklin Raines as he absconded with over $90 million dollars, and left the industry to crumble.

It is fact that you yourself refuse to acknowledge, unless you twist them first, and then say that others are not conforming to your fairy tales, so are wrong...It is a foolish game, and I do hope that progressives like you continue to lie though, because as the curtain is pulled back on progressive corruption, and lies, it will ensure that progressivism is dead in this country. I only hope that you don't destroy the country in the process.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Your revisionist history, and ignorant phraseology calling political opponents to your own socialistic view of what you think this country should be is disgusting. Most people have coverage for basic services like what you are talking about here, yet you distort, and paint a false picture of just the opposite. All because you want your BC pills for free, or condoms for free. The history of the CRA started by Carter, and ramped up by Clinton is legendary for the pressure it put on banks to make those bad loans, then easing regulation so that banks could mitigate the risk of that. In hearings before the crash, it was republicans that put pressure on regulators, and the regulators themselves that were screaming for more regulation power, and demo's viciously attack the premise of the hearings defending the criminal Franklin Raines as he absconded with over $90 million dollars, and left the industry to crumble. It is fact that you yourself refuse to acknowledge, unless you twist them first, and then say that others are not conforming to your fairy tales, so are wrong...It is a foolish game, and I do hope that progressives like you continue to lie though, because as the curtain is pulled back on progressive corruption, and lies, it will ensure that progressivism is dead in this country. I only hope that you don't destroy the country in the process.

Well it is difficult to get past the jingolistic, right wing talk radio BS, but the GOP fought hard to deregulate the banking industry, as in the S&L debacle from Reagan's day, 'cutting red tape' and allowing traditional banks to dabble across the board in the market and other more risky was pushed hard by the GOP, remember graham??? he is the guy who claimed there was no crisis, Americans are just whiners- McCain quickly dismissed him from his re-election brain trust.

What hurt our economy was the drive to create as much paper as possible to bundle up for the Derivative market, much of which was worthless but the PRIVATE SECTOR bond rating companies gave the turd pile a AAA rating. It was an ever increasing greed for more and more paper to push on secondary markets that was the crisis. It was the CON game call for government to 'cut the red tape' that gutted oversight.

CON revisionism has the President 'forcing' banks to make loans but quite the opposite is true. Banks couldn't make them fast enough as they quickly sold the crappy ones off and collected the 'service' fee.

One of the biggest CON lies of late is how dems 'forced' the poor weak willed private sector to do so much the risk averse bankers quailed at having to do... :roll:

(that wasn't the way the banking industry pedaled that hot mess BEFORE the collapse.)

Now I can understand the 'me first' CON crowd wanting to refuse to see the real cost of health care as it stands now, but we pay a HUGE surcharge for the uninsured/underinsured folks. Whining about BC pills seems so petty.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Well it is difficult to get past the jingolistic, right wing talk radio BS, but the GOP fought hard to deregulate the banking industry, as in the S&L debacle from Reagan's day, 'cutting red tape' and allowing traditional banks to dabble across the board in the market and other more risky was pushed hard by the GOP, remember graham??? he is the guy who claimed there was no crisis, Americans are just whiners- McCain quickly dismissed him from his re-election brain trust.

What hurt our economy was the drive to create as much paper as possible to bundle up for the Derivative market, much of which was worthless but the PRIVATE SECTOR bond rating companies gave the turd pile a AAA rating. It was an ever increasing greed for more and more paper to push on secondary markets that was the crisis. It was the CON game call for government to 'cut the red tape' that gutted oversight.

CON revisionism has the President 'forcing' banks to make loans but quite the opposite is true. Banks couldn't make them fast enough as they quickly sold the crappy ones off and collected the 'service' fee.

One of the biggest CON lies of late is how dems 'forced' the poor weak willed private sector to do so much the risk averse bankers quailed at having to do... :roll:

(that wasn't the way the banking industry pedaled that hot mess BEFORE the collapse.)

Now I can understand the 'me first' CON crowd wanting to refuse to see the real cost of health care as it stands now, but we pay a HUGE surcharge for the uninsured/underinsured folks. Whining about BC pills seems so petty.

Do you do bed time fairy tales too?
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Six. That's hilarious.

What's even more hilarious are the responses of a certain forum member in this thread who will, of course, remain nameless.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Do you do bed time fairy tales too?

No Sir, and I don't regurgitate CON talking points and revisions of the real history.

fact is the free market maniacs drove the bus right over a cliff in '29 and '08. The financial sector begged and begged for more latitude saying who knows better than they what will work and what CEO would trash his own company for profit...

The answer to the latter was quite a few as they had golden parachutes and the companies were 'contractually obligated' to pay huge bonuses to the very men who had a foot on the gas, ignored the brake and drove like crap!

The answer to the first part is many didn't have a clue what they were 'managing', just profits were at an all time high, best to not question the up n comers too closely in how they were doing it.... :roll:
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

No Sir, and I don't regurgitate CON talking points and revisions of the real history.

fact is the free market maniacs drove the bus right over a cliff in '29 and '08. The financial sector begged and begged for more latitude saying who knows better than they what will work and what CEO would trash his own company for profit...

The answer to the latter was quite a few as they had golden parachutes and the companies were 'contractually obligated' to pay huge bonuses to the very men who had a foot on the gas, ignored the brake and drove like crap!

The answer to the first part is many didn't have a clue what they were 'managing', just profits were at an all time high, best to not question the up n comers too closely in how they were doing it.... :roll:

Just a question....With all of your "CON" this, and "CON" that....What do you think as a "progressive" is going too far for government? Do you believe in the founding premise that we have a "limited federal government"? And finally what is government's role in your life?
 
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I truly believe that the lies and deception Obama has done he should be impeached. He is hurting millions of people with his lies. The man is not qualified to be POTUS.

The only problem is if that happened we would have to deal with the imbecile Biden as the POTUS so impeach his butt and bring in the Speaker of the House.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

I truly believe that the lies and deception Obama has done he should be impeached. He is hurting millions of people with his lies. The man is not qualified to be POTUS.

The only problem is if that happened we would have to deal with the imbecile Biden as the POTUS so impeach his butt and bring in the Speaker of the House.

You realize impeachment is not something you do when you don't like someone's policies, right?

Or do you want to run the country like an 8th grade girls clique?
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

You realize impeachment is not something you do when you don't like someone's policies, right?

Or do you want to run the country like an 8th grade girls clique?

Careful there, ever since Nixon in the 70s, lying to the American people is absolutely impeachable.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Careful there, ever since Nixon in the 70s, lying to the American people is absolutely impeachable.


Really? You think Nixon's crime (or potential crime, since he was pardoned for everything) was lying?

Arent we revisionist today!
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

You realize impeachment is not something you do when you don't like someone's policies, right?

Or do you want to run the country like an 8th grade girls clique?

Obama's blatant use of the Constitution is reason enough to impeach him.
 
Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

Really? You think Nixon's crime (or potential crime, since he was pardoned for everything) was lying?

Arent we revisionist today!

Nixon's crime pale to the crimes Obama committed. No one died under Nixon. Four good men died under Obama.
 
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