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School shooting this morning . . .

what you do in your bedroom is not my business:naughty

yes that is harassment. driving the cost of something I use up so people like you can pretend you did something about crime.

your posts are pathetic when it comes to justifying INFRINGEMENTS on peoples' rights

Hardly. Just exaggeration on your part.
 
Boo just pretends that citizens will never need more than 7 rounds and if they do and die-well too bad, their death is insignificant and should not be used to counter the desires of his beloved democratic scumbags like Cuomo

I have SHOT a criminal-once-that is all that was needed. so you might ask how many rounds do I carry? well my main carry piece has 8 rounds and three mags. when I carry a revolver its 5 in the cylinder, and two speed loaders but I have extra in the car along with a 15 shot 40 Caliber with four loaded magazines and a box of 50 more rounds

I attend, train and teach at places where we study shootings. NO ONE has ever died because they had plenty of ammo. People have died because they ran out of ammo. SINCE YOU CANNOT create the situation you might be in where you would have to shoot, you should prepare for the worst

What makes one citizen think he knows what's best for another just because he's obviously frightened of guns? They just don't understand that criminals will still be able to get as much as ammo as they want. I don't know how they can't understand that, but they don't.
 
Where do you think the dishonest people get their weapons? From the "honest" people that's where. If we want to keep them off the streets we have to ban them for all. There is also a question in my mind as to why large cap mags are so vital to an "honest" persons life that they command us all to accept more risk when crazies use them? Is that fair in your mind?

Whatever pal. It's a right, whether you're afraid or not. WE do not want to be at the mercy of criminals because of your fears. GUNS are not going to go away. Go ahead and ban them all, then only the criminals will have them. Because criminals DON'T CARE if you ban them.
 
Usually the cops show up AFTER the fact. It's the civilian who has to worry about his or her safety in the meantime. Most home invasions are done by groups of gang members who are armed to the teeth, through the illegal black market of course.

Accept when they walk in on it. Stopping people, answering domestics, checking up on areas, open the door to violent situations. I'm amazed that conservatives don't understand the job of police.

and home invasions are rare and easily discouraged. A dig our two usually is enough. But one shot would work as well.
 
What makes one citizen think he knows what's best for another just because he's obviously frightened of guns? They just don't understand that criminals will still be able to get as much as ammo as they want. I don't know how they can't understand that, but they don't.

Its hilarious watching those whose posts demonstrate they have no understanding at all about criminal attacks and shooting defensively after being attacked pontificating as to what YOU need

there is absolutely NO DOWNSIDE to all honest citizens carrying 17 round pistols rather than being limited to 7 rounds. BTW cops ARE MORE LIKELY TO MISS than other CIVILIANS so if the worry is loose rounds flying around the obvious solution is to LIMIT COPS magazines;)
 
Where do you think the dishonest people get their weapons? From the "honest" people that's where. If we want to keep them off the streets we have to ban them for all. There is also a question in my mind as to why large cap mags are so vital to an "honest" persons life that they command us all to accept more risk when crazies use them? Is that fair in your mind?

Its illegal for them to have any weapons

you catch them with a weapon-they go to jail

why should honest people be punished at a certain number of rondos

those aren't large capacity magazines-they are NORMAL CAPACITY

what is fair is that someone like you-who doesn't understand the issue-should NEVER be in a position to tell me what I need based on your own lack of understanding coupled with your fear of honest people owning guns
 
Accept when they walk in on it. Stopping people, answering domestics, checking up on areas, open the door to violent situations. I'm amazed that conservatives don't understand the job of police.

and home invasions are rare and easily discouraged. A dig our two usually is enough. But one shot would work as well.

Ah the Biden Bovine excrement-shoot a shotgun in the air

remind me how many home invasions you have investigated or prosecuted?

I have yet to see any real cops support the sort of nonsense you spew about magazine limits
 
Ah the Biden Bovine excrement-shoot a shotgun in the air

remind me how many home invasions you have investigated or prosecuted?

I have yet to see any real cops support the sort of nonsense you spew about magazine limits

Show me the reals cops saying you need an arsenal? I've shown you in the past that dogs are an excellent deterrent. Let me see yours.
 
Accept when they walk in on it. Stopping people, answering domestics, checking up on areas, open the door to violent situations. I'm amazed that conservatives don't understand the job of police.

and home invasions are rare and easily discouraged. A dig our two usually is enough. But one shot would work as well.

That rarely happens. Most of the time, the police don't show up until AFTER the crime has been committed. Home invasions are not that rare either.

http://www.lockjawsecurity.com/pdf/LockBumpingFactSheet.pdf
 
Show me the reals cops saying you need an arsenal? I've shown you in the past that dogs are an excellent deterrent. Let me see yours.

Yeah, so a group of guys comes and kick in your door, and your little dog runs up to them growling and barking, and they shoot him. Now what?
 
How is that different than the anti gun posters who pretend that magazine limits are "not major" or that massive infringements on our 2A rights does not violate the prohibition "Shall not be infringed"

Because - as you hsve been educated upon repeatedly and often - you know that the Second Amendment does not mention INFRINGEMENTS but rather prohibits the right to keep and bear arms from being INFRINGED.
 
Show me the reals cops saying you need an arsenal? I've shown you in the past that dogs are an excellent deterrent. Let me see yours.

oh the hysteria has gone viral-carrying the same 17 shot GLOCK pistol that is issued to the DEA is now an ARSENAL. I have shown you that experts have determined what is the best weapon for somewhat trained cops to use in self defense

you cannot claim that every cop is going to face MORE danger than EVERY other CIVILIAN

dogs are great if someone is worried you have a gun and have been alerted by the dog. If I know you don't I will walk right through that dog and you are gonna be toast if I am some badass looking to do you. A dog is worthless against someone with a knife or a gun willing to kill
 
Because - as you hsve been educated upon repeatedly and often - you know that the Second Amendment does not mention INFRINGEMENTS but rather prohibits the right to keep and bear arms from being INFRINGED.

wrong, I have seen you post that claim over and over, and like most other people, I have dismissed it as nonsensical evasive silliness
 
Are you sure someone trying to sell you security is the best source? Really?

as opposed to gun hating liberals telling her she doesn't need the same gun a cop has determined is the best for self defense?
 
Yeah, so a group of guys comes and kick in your door, and your little dog runs up to them growling and barking, and they shoot him. Now what?

Who said anything about little?

And yes, statistically, they are an excellent deterrent. Better than all others statistically.

...you are concerned for your family's safety, and you want a nice pet, too. Fortunately..., you can have the best of both worlds. I speak as a dog enthusiast, and as a police officer who specializes in Crime Prevention. ...Professional criminals dislike: 1. time 2. noise 3. light. [TIME:] Most thieves like to be into a house in less than 15 seconds; if a criminal needs more than that he probably won't break into your house. This tells us that good quality, re-enforced doors [and windows] with heavy duty locks are an answer. LIGHT: if you keep the area around your house lighted (sensor lights are good and inexpensive, too) this will help greatly. NOISE: ... [a small, alert dog], while not intimidating to most people, is a problem to a burglar - he does not want to hear that barking! So, you can improve your home security without adding a... [larger] dog.... BUT, like a lot of things, sometimes more is better, and in this case, having more physical security, more light or more noise is going to be in your favor.... Also, having a big dog on the property lets the pros know when they are looking for an easy mark that perhaps your house is not an easy mark.

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~n51ls801/securitydogs.html
 
Yeah, so a group of guys comes and kick in your door, and your little dog runs up to them growling and barking, and they shoot him. Now what?

Remember the joke death by BONGO:mrgreen:
 
Who said anything about little?

And yes, statistically, they are an excellent deterrent. Better than all others statistically.

No, I think a shot gun is a much better deterrent. I think the sound of a gun being cocked is probably a GREAT deterrent. LOL. You're so naive.
 
wrong, I have seen you post that claim over and over, and like most other people, I have dismissed it as nonsensical evasive silliness

It seems by your response that your eyes and brain also dismiss the actual English language used in the Second Amendment in favor of what you want to believe.
 
Who said anything about little?

And yes, statistically, they are an excellent deterrent. Better than all others statistically.

only when criminals think that dogs will alert an armed homeowner. dogs are incredibly easy to kill by armed people. knives, clubs, guns. ASP Batons are particularly nasty against all but the best trained attack dogs. A Randall Model One is absolutely brutal-I saw a guy attacked by a doper's big Dobie and he had a Randall. He literally filleted the dog in under three seconds
 
When someone breaks your door in, they are ready for you and your little dog too. All it takes is a bullet to stop a dog dead.
 
It seems by your response that your eyes and brain also dismiss the actual English language used in the Second Amendment in favor of what you want to believe.

I just reject the silly attempts to justify the Democratic Party's attempts to harass law abiding gun owners with stuff that the founders would have hung people like Biden for
 
It seems by your response that your eyes and brain also dismiss the actual English language used in the Second Amendment in favor of what you want to believe.

I like using definitions that existed at the time, not the definitions you think will get your agenda completed.
 
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