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School shooting this morning . . .

CRUE CAB said:
Really how. His or her death while tragic, has no impact on my rights.
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Again, as I said before, could you please show a little respect to the deceased? Now is not the time to make this a political issue.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Read what I was responding to and you will understand my comment.
And I will be the first to remind you that school shooting or not, it does not trump my 2A rights.
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Damn right. I'll be happy trade a few dead kids for my right to play with really fun toys.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Can't the pro gun crowd show a little respect and at least let the bodies cool before they turn this into a political issue?
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We're tired of getting beaten to the punch by people eager for any excuse to violate our human rights.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I cant find anyone turning it into a political issue.
And the left was dancing on the graves of the Newtown children before the last brass case hit the ground.
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Really? You missed his offshoot on "gun-free zones"?

6 posts in and it already became a tool to push political issues, as it always is.

Slyfox696 said:
Check the post I quoted. It's right there.
And you were A) happy they did so or B) upset they did so?

Oh...so when the gun control crowd does it it's offensive, but when the pro gun crowd does it, it's okay?
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I think the point was you focused singularly on the "pro gun crowd" showing respect when in reality both sides have individuals routinely showing little respect. Typically, it's a mad dash by BOTH sides to be the first to politicize the issue. And generally you have people from bot hsides who gets upset when someone dares to mention the political talking points of the other side.

You're right that neither side is clean in regards to that, the point lizzie was making I believe was that your one sided broad condemnation is a rather curious.
 
Zyphlin said:
I think the point was you focused singularly on the "pro gun crowd" showing respect when in reality both sides have individuals routinely showing little respect. Typically, it's a mad dash by BOTH sides to be the first to politicize the issue. And generally you have people from bot hsides who gets upset when someone dares to mention the political talking points of the other side.
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I totally agree. But it always seems as if the pro gun side puts forward the smokescreen of "show respect to the deceased" and reacts in faux anger when someone uses a tragic incident as motivation for change.

You're right that neither side is clean in regards to that, the point lizzie was making I believe was that your one sided broad condemnation is a rather curious.
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Not curious, more like making a point. I rarely see the gun control supporters telling others they are being disrespectful to the dead for suggesting ideas which could prevent the tragedy. I see the pro gun side do it all the time. And yet, as you have correctly said, the pro gun crowd is more than willing to use a tragedy to push a political agenda as well.

Obviously I understand one doesn't speak for all. But, in general, when it comes to tragedy to push changes, only one side is hypocritical about an arbitrary time frame (which, let's be honest, the time frame has nothing to do with respecting the dead but rather is only a way to postpone discussion about gun control until Americans' attention is distracted by the next shiny story).
 
When we start putting the people in jail who allow guns to be accessible to teenagers, I'll support "more gun laws." We don't need more gun laws restricting ownership . . . we need more punishment for using them in commission of a felony.
 
Ikari said:
Almost 314 million people in the US. 2/314000000 is about zero. Secondly, what do you want to do? Freak out and start having the government work against the rights of all 314 million? Hardly seems justified to me.

No, the solution is to maintain a clear head and respond rationally.
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yeah - just an acceptable amount of collateral damage..... nothing to see here ... just speed up and move on. :roll:
 
Normalcy would have had the dead teacher, a former Marine, as one of the Conceal-Carrys in that school..
rhinefire said:
Us Texans ( you know the dumb asses down south)
have schools that post signs alerting nut cases there are people in the school building that are armed and trained to shoot. Nuff said.
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Those signs continue to go up across the Nation .
 
Slyfox696 said:
Tragic day. Reporting on these stories will always lead more and more to think to do the same thing, but at the same time, these are the type of things Americans need to know about. Such a tough situation all the way around.
Can't the pro gun crowd show a little respect and at least let the bodies cool before they turn this into a political issue?
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Prior to that post of YOURS, what was the political statement?
 
Slyfox696 said:
I totally agree. But it always seems as if the pro gun side puts forward the smokescreen of "show respect to the deceased" and reacts in faux anger when someone uses a tragic incident as motivation for change.

Not curious, more like making a point. I rarely see the gun control supporters telling others they are being disrespectful to the dead for suggesting ideas which could prevent the tragedy. I see the pro gun side do it all the time. And yet, as you have correctly said, the pro gun crowd is more than willing to use a tragedy to push a political agenda as well.

Obviously I understand one doesn't speak for all. But, in general, when it comes to tragedy to push changes, only one side is hypocritical about an arbitrary time frame (which, let's be honest, the time frame has nothing to do with respecting the dead but rather is only a way to postpone discussion about gun control until Americans' attention is distracted by the next shiny story).
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really excellent post.
 
MaggieD said:
we need more punishment for using them in commission of a felony.
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What sort of punishment, Maggie??
I prefer that these felons get the ultimate punishment during these murderous crimes, whether self-inflicted or from Concealed-Carry..
If they don't die, use the Chines $10 method of ridding society of this POS .
 
Slyfox696 said:
I totally agree. But it always seems as if the pro gun side puts forward the smokescreen of "show respect to the deceased" and reacts in faux anger when someone uses a tragic incident as motivation for change.

Not curious, more like making a point. I rarely see the gun control supporters telling others they are being disrespectful to the dead for suggesting ideas which could prevent the tragedy. I see the pro gun side do it all the time. And yet, as you have correctly said, the pro gun crowd is more than willing to use a tragedy to push a political agenda as well.

Obviously I understand one doesn't speak for all. But, in general, when it comes to tragedy to push changes, only one side is hypocritical about an arbitrary time frame (which, let's be honest, the time frame has nothing to do with respecting the dead but rather is only a way to postpone discussion about gun control until Americans' attention is distracted by the next shiny story).
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Totally and completely un true.
 
This calls for arming all children who go to schools. Cuz guns are wot's gud for murica. grunt, grunt. Only a gud chil wif a gun cun stop a bad chil wif a gun.
 
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You see this ****, LEO in camo? That needs to stop. Last thing we need is a bunch of big headed Rambos running around acting like stormtroopers. They could just as easily have done this in police uniforms like cops have done for 100 years. I wonder where their armored personnel carrier is, maybe a couple of armed scout helicopters with hellfire-armed drones. :roll: I think LEOs are beginning to think of themselves as soldiers and not officers. Many of the same people want to deny you a handgun or rifle.
 
Threegoofs said:
Seems like you could come up with an example then, huh?
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Calling genuine concern a "smoke screen". Calling gun crimes that take lives "fake anger". Calling gun owners hypocritical. How is that for a few examples of outright lying.
 
SPARKS, Nev. (AP) — Police say two people are dead and two more are injured in a shooting at Sparks Middle School in northern Nevada Monday morning.Washoe County School District Police didn't immediately offer details of the identities of the dead. Spokeswoman Angela Rambo of Renown Regional Medical Center says two boys are in critical condition.
Police said the school is "all clear" and the suspect is "down," but offered no further details. The shooting happened on the school's campus, but outside the school building itself, according to police.
Washoe County School District spokesman Charles Rahn says the middle school and next door Agnes Risley Elementary School have been evacuated to Sparks High School. Rahn said the middle and elementary schools will be closed Monday.
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Hear the sounds of children screaming in terror for their lives? Do not be bothered by their screaming, for that is the sound of America's Second Amendment FREEDOM!

Yes, America, the only nation where schools need to hold lockdown drills in case a man carrying a gun is coming to kill them. See, all those other nations that don't have any such need to hold lockdown drills...they're all socialist tyrannies. But here, we're FREE - which is why we have school shootings and lockdown drills!

Yes, from time to time the tree of Second-Amendment freedom must be watered with the blood of innocent children....
 
American said:
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You see this ****, LEO in camo? That needs to stop. Last thing we need is a bunch of big headed Rambos running around acting like stormtroopers. They could just as easily have done this in police uniforms like cops have done for 100 years. I wonder where their armored personnel carrier is, maybe a couple of armed scout helicopters with hellfire-armed drones. :roll: I think LEOs are beginning to think of themselves as soldiers and not officers. Many of the same people want to deny you a handgun or rifle.
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Soon it's going to take an army to stop the gungoons with guns. Only a good army can stop a bad gungoon with a gun.
 
Michael66 said:
Soon it's going to take an army to stop the gungoons with guns. Only a good army can stop a bad gungoon with a gun.
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Bull****, the Al Capones of the early 20th Century were stopped by common LEO. We don't need troops at our door steps. Do you remember how the British troops acted during Colonial times?
 
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:screwy
 
American said:
Bull****, the Al Capones of the early 20th Century were stopped by common LEO. We don't need troops at our door steps. Do you remember how the British troops acted during Colonial times?
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I believe they were actually stopped by the IRS. But I bet you'd rather have more guns than more IRS, so you might want to bury that post.
 
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