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The Republican civil war is just getting started

haymarket said:
And your proof of this allegation is where exactly?

As usual - your posts are merely pompous personal pontifications devoid of any evidence.
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your posts have proven that no matter what the evidence is, you will pretend it does not exist. I suggest you research the thousand of attacks that the left has launched on the tea party on this forum and from that research you will find your answers. "pompous personal pontifications is perhaps projection on your part
 
I would say more like seven years ernst, when Pelosi became speaker..And then TARP..
ernst barkmann said:
there has been a civil war in the republican party for close to ten years now
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I guess some of you were not watching.
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I've been watching all along..
I don't need to watch FOX when MSNBC plays their greatest hits every day..
Where would they be without the material from your team .
 
haymarket said:
He never does ... he never does. Its all pompous personal pontifications.
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so like Solletica you deny that the top 5% do not pay more than half the Federal Income tax burden?

please hitch your horse to her carriage
 
sangha said:
He actually believes that the large agricultural concerns (the one's that produce most of this countrys' food) whose biggest customer is the US govt is going to side with a bunch of loons.
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Sides?...but the tractors/combines don't drive themselves. Those who operate this equipment, raise the cattle, gather the eggs don't live in the 'blue' areas...or do they?
 
TurtleDude said:
so like Solletica you deny that the top 5% do not pay more than half the Federal Income tax burden?

please hitch your horse to her carriage
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Get a life Dude. Better yet - get a quote from me which says that.
 
haymarket said:
that is only your opinion because you have no idea what actual debate is and each and every post from you proves it.
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well your idea of debate-as you have constantly claimed without any citation to any authority, is some obscure high school or minor league college debating group. Hardly relevant to this board. Debating also means something other than engaging in slippery evasions.
 
TurtleDude said:
your posts have proven that no matter what the evidence is, you will pretend it does not exist.
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I cannot pretend about what you never present. But prove me wrong and link to it right now.
 
TurtleDude said:
well your idea of debate-as you have constantly claimed without any citation to any authority, is some obscure high school or minor league college debating group. Hardly relevant to this board. Debating also means something other than engaging in slippery evasions.
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Argumentum ad populum has nothing to do with any debate group. Are you really that ignorant about actual logical fallacies that you would foolishly say something like that?
 
TurtleDude said:
You love substituting silly HS debate terms that have no relevance to this discussion. YOu confuse my not satisfying your demands with being unable to prove my assertions.
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Most HS debate teams know how to cite evidence from authoritative sources. But you apparently don't.

ONCE AGAIN, for the 5th time, cite statistics/evidence from a credible source (i. e. govt. agency, economics professor, etc.) that the TOTAL FEDERAL TAX BURDEN, incorporating the payroll tax, and all deductions, subsidies, is more for the upper 5% than the lower 95%.

Tick tock tick tock. . .
 
NIMBY said:
I would say more like seven years ernst, when Pelosi became speaker..And then TARP..


I've been watching all along..
I don't need to watch FOX when MSNBC plays their greatest hits every day..
Where would they be without the material from your team .
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sorry no... when bush departed from his original platform of small government in his first term, which is the same as Ron Paul, the party started to divide.
 
solletica said:
Most HS debate teams know how to cite evidence from authoritative sources. But you apparently don't.

ONCE AGAIN, for the 5th time, cite statistics/evidence from a credible source (i. e. govt. agency, economics professor, etc.) that the TOTAL FEDERAL TAX BURDEN, incorporating the payroll tax, and all deductions, subsidies, is more for the upper 5% than the lower 95%.

Tick tock tick tock. . .
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your dishonesty is mounting. I said the FEDERAL INCOME TAX burden, not all taxes payable to the federal government

that you ignore that point means you know you are wrong and that my point was sound
 
TurtleDude said:
absolutely, I made it as clear as possible. and "payroll taxes" are claimed to be forced savings contributions etc, not "taxes" per se.
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Yes, but I provided a source...:cool:

Hopefully the IRS is reliable enough...:lamo
 
Dickieboy said:
Sides?...but the tractors/combines don't drive themselves. Those who operate this equipment, raise the cattle, gather the eggs don't live in the 'blue' areas...or do they?
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Yeah, they're all going to abandon their family to fight in your nonsense "revolution"
 
How did we get from taking about internecine GOP squabbling to actual civil war, anyway.
 
Kobie said:
How did we get from taking about internecine GOP squabbling to actual civil war, anyway.
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the potential body count was almost non existent in the first scenario?
 
sangha said:
Yeah, they're all going to abandon their family to fight in your nonsense "revolution"
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Did I say anything about them abandoning their family? or fighting? ...or even starting something?

here's a hint; check the OP title
 
Dickieboy said:
Did I say anything about them abandoning their family? or fighting? ...or even starting something?

here's a hint; check the OP title
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Yes, they'll just stay and home and starve while others take their job.

That's about par for the course for the right wing nutters.
 
Dickieboy said:
Did I say anything about them abandoning their family? or fighting? ...or even starting something?

here's a hint; check the OP title
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I did check the title, and it's patently obvious the OP was referring to the inter-party squabbling the GOP is engaging in as a "civil war." Good lord.
 
sangha said:
Yes, they'll just stay and home and starve while others take their job.

That's about par for the course for the right wing nutters.
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Go back and read my hypothetical again...it is not the rural folks (you know the 'tractor drivers') who will starve. Remember cows and corn don't grow in the city...and rural areas are predominately 'red' in practically all states...;)
 
Kobie said:
I did check the title, and it's patently obvious the OP was referring to the inter-party squabbling the GOP is engaging in as a "civil war." Good lord.
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Yeah, I know...good Lord indeed.
 
Dickieboy said:
Go back and read my hypothetical again...it is not the rural folks (you know the 'tractor drivers') who will starve. Remember cows and corn don't grow in the city...and rural areas are predominately 'red' in practically all states...;)
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GO back and read what I said

No one is going to starve.
 
sangha said:
GO back and read what I said

No one is going to starve.
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Perhaps my reading comprehension is too weak to understand...what did you mean when you said:

sangha said:
Yes, they'll just stay and home and starve while others take their job.

That's about par for the course for the right wing nutters.
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Go on...you can say it...:lamo
 
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