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Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

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Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

Hillary Clinton may have tipped her hand on Tuesday about her plans for a 2016 presidential run.


Speaking in Atlanta at a convention that was closed to the media, Clinton spent 25 minutes talking about the 2011 raid on the Osama bin Laden compound, according to a report in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The crux of that discussion: that she was for the 2011 raid in which al Qaida leader bin Laden was killed ― and Vice President Joe Biden did not support the military action.


State Representative Tom Taylor, a Republican, told the AJC that Clinton went to great lengths to paint herself and former CIA director Leon Panetta as the raid's fiercest advocates, while at the same time highlighting Biden's opposition.

"It was widely reported in the weeks and months after the raid that most, or at least many, of the president's top advisers opposed the raid," Bowden wrote in a Vanity Fair article. "That is not true. Nearly everyone present favored it. The only major dissenters were Biden and [then Defense Secretary Robert] Gates, and before the raid Gates would change his mind."


This isn't the first time Clinton has contrasted her position on the raid with Biden's. According to Politico, Clinton said the same thing during a recent speech on Long Island.

Two things just happened. Hillary just materialized the fears of GOP members and she also just took a swipe at the current administration's leadership. Not a good look for executive branch as one of their former attack dogs just went after the administration. It's also bad news for Republicans if she decides to throw her hat in the race. Who will they put against her? Some newbie like Cruz? Clinton is a political savant. She came out pretty well after her husbands... indiscretions. She's also feared by GOPers. Before she has even declared she'll run, there are monthly rumblings from Conservatives trying to attack her on the matter. Then again, this could all just be Clinton giving her opinion. However, I think it's far more likely she's just about ready to dispatch a committee.
 
Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?





Two things just happened. Hillary just materialized the fears of GOP members and she also just took a swipe at the current administration's leadership. Not a good look for executive branch as one of their former attack dogs just went after the administration. It's also bad news for Republicans if she decides to throw her hat in the race. Who will they put against her? Some newbie like Cruz? Clinton is a political savant. She came out pretty well after her husbands... indiscretions. She's also feared by GOPers. Before she has even declared she'll run, there are monthly rumblings from Conservatives trying to attack her on the matter. Then again, this could all just be Clinton giving her opinion. However, I think it's far more likely she's just about ready to dispatch a committee.

Running Cruz would be hilarious.

I really don't like the idea that Clinton would go after other potential candidates this early. Save it for the campaign. However, since this is all second hand reporting, the potential for spin is high.
 
Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

Two things just happened. Hillary just materialized the fears of GOP members and she also just took a swipe at the current administration's leadership. Not a good look for executive branch as one of their former attack dogs just went after the administration. It's also bad news for Republicans if she decides to throw her hat in the race. Who will they put against her? Some newbie like Cruz? Clinton is a political savant. She came out pretty well after her husbands... indiscretions. She's also feared by GOPers. Before she has even declared she'll run, there are monthly rumblings from Conservatives trying to attack her on the matter. Then again, this could all just be Clinton giving her opinion. However, I think it's far more likely she's just about ready to dispatch a committee.

Clinton has to make it through the crucible of the primaries. That'll hand the republicans plenty of ammo. Of course she'll run, but she's not looking at a cakewalk.
 
I hope Hillary either doesn't run or doesn't make it past the primaries, or both. I think too many people see some of the past problems as being related to the nearly dynastic line of presidents we've had. I know I'll never vote for her for president. I'd not vote Republican, but I would not for her either. Probably just leave it blank unless there was a valid third party candidate,... which actually could happen if Hillary wins the primaries.
 
Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?





Two things just happened. Hillary just materialized the fears of GOP members and she also just took a swipe at the current administration's leadership. Not a good look for executive branch as one of their former attack dogs just went after the administration. It's also bad news for Republicans if she decides to throw her hat in the race. Who will they put against her? Some newbie like Cruz? Clinton is a political savant. She came out pretty well after her husbands... indiscretions. She's also feared by GOPers. Before she has even declared she'll run, there are monthly rumblings from Conservatives trying to attack her on the matter. Then again, this could all just be Clinton giving her opinion. However, I think it's far more likely she's just about ready to dispatch a committee.

I cringe thinking about Hillary Clinton in the White House. The Good Old Boy network is not ready for a woman as President of the United States.
 
Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?







Two things just happened. Hillary just materialized the fears of GOP members and she also just took a swipe at the current administration's leadership. Not a good look for executive branch as one of their former attack dogs just went after the administration. It's also bad news for Republicans if she decides to throw her hat in the race. Who will they put against her? Some newbie like Cruz? Clinton is a political savant. She came out pretty well after her husbands... indiscretions. She's also feared by GOPers. Before she has even declared she'll run, there are monthly rumblings from Conservatives trying to attack her on the matter. Then again, this could all just be Clinton giving her opinion. However, I think it's far more likely she's just about ready to dispatch a committee.


Does anyone really care?
 
I cringe thinking about Hillary Clinton in the White House. The Good Old Boy network is not ready for a woman as President of the United States.

She was incompetent as a senator and SECSTATE and would be the same as God forbid president.
 
She was incompetent as a senator and SECSTATE and would be the same as God forbid president.

You're right, she's a chicken-hawk just like the Repubs before her.
 
Clinton has to make it through the crucible of the primaries. That'll hand the republicans plenty of ammo. Of course she'll run, but she's not looking at a cakewalk.

I hope and pray you are right.
 
I hope Hillary either doesn't run or doesn't make it past the primaries, or both. I think too many people see some of the past problems as being related to the nearly dynastic line of presidents we've had. I know I'll never vote for her for president. I'd not vote Republican, but I would not for her either. Probably just leave it blank unless there was a valid third party candidate,... which actually could happen if Hillary wins the primaries.

I'm liking the idea of a significant run by a third party candidate more every day.
 
Clinton has to make it through the crucible of the primaries. That'll hand the republicans plenty of ammo. Of course she'll run, but she's not looking at a cakewalk.

If Hilary enters the race....it absolutely will be a cakewalk.
 
Well its 2013 so a million things could happen before then

but have the race tomorrow, Clinton VS (insert name here)

Clinton walks away with it easy

Now with that being said thats doesn't have to be what i think is best or what i want, that's just how it is.

But by time its 2016 the situation could be the exact opposite.
 
Well its 2013 so a million things could happen before them

but have the race tomorrow Clinton VS (insert name here)

Clinton walks away with it easy

Now with that being said thats doesn't have to be what i think is best or what i want, that's just how it is.

But by time its 2016 the situation could be the exact opposite.
Can't argue that at all. Well said.
 
I hope she does run. Let the Dems waste more time and money on her again. Her skeletons that were in her closet had to make more room for the ones she added during her incompetent run as Sec of State. Besides I can't wait to hear her explanation as to why when she was appointed Sec of State, Iraq and Afgan were placed off limits to her. A competent person would never had allowed such.
 
My read on this is that Hillary missed her window. As shallow as we are as a culture, I just don't see her elect a 69 year old to be our first female president. Her birthday is about a week before the election.

That might be ageist, sexist, and generally unfair, but I also think it's true.
 
My read on this is that Hillary missed her window. As shallow as we are as a culture, I just don't see her elect a 69 year old to be our first female president. Her birthday is about a week before the election.

That might be ageist, sexist, and generally unfair, but I also think it's true.

WHile i do agree age could be a factor I only see it as being a minor secondary one

meanigng if come 2016 she makes it through primaries and gets the nod, age is meaningless

if age is in fact effecting her or she has other issues it could be an added factor

but my OPINION is, if she gets the Nod and its her vs whoever else she walks away with it.

but the economy/ACA will also be a factor of course
 
I cringe thinking about Hillary Clinton in the White House. The Good Old Boy network is not ready for a woman as President of the United States.

MaggieD, if I didn't know better - I'd say you're sounding like a sexist.
 
MaggieD, if I didn't know better - I'd say you're sounding like a sexist.

Cute. ;)

No, I just know the Good Old Boy Network. There's too many old men in Congress. Their spots aren't changing any time soon.
 
Cute. ;)

No, I just know the Good Old Boy Network. There's too many old men in Congress. Their spots aren't changing any time soon.

Well, that's the only way to describe such thing. If I were to come up with the 'Good Old White Boy' network, I'd be called a racist. ;)
 
You're right, she's a chicken-hawk just like the Repubs before her.

chicken-hawk = a political tem used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who ACTIVELY AVOIDED military service of age..
With just the 21st Century in mind, we could look at the last decade with Bush/Cheney, versus Rumsfeld and Powell who served.
 
yep, hillary is running
already has much of the machinery in place

that swipe at biden was a clear giveaway. shows she is running and remains a ****
biden was the one who announced after the capture of osama that he had counseled against the raid

wonder who is going to start revealing insider stories about her incompetencies as secstate

2016 is the republicans' to lose if the demos are stupid enough to run hillary
will be the same outcome as kerry, gore and dukakis

IF the GOP can find a decent centrist candidate. hint: cruz ain't it. he would be a gift to the hillary ticket


who has a better shot than christie?
 
chicken-hawk = a political tem used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who ACTIVELY AVOIDED military service of age..
With just the 21st Century in mind, we could look at the last decade with Bush/Cheney, versus Rumsfeld and Powell who served.
I believe the definition is considered too narrow these days. Refers instead to those never involved actively on the field, but being war mongers.
 
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Of course hillary is running as of now. A person that driven doesn't go away simply because they got bested because Obama was black. The whole coy about running thing makes sense, but gets pretty annoying after a while. It keeps her name in the news, and if she was really retiring because she was tired she would be off resting. She is older though, and three years from now she might not be able to run anymore. There is no doubt today she took off from her position in Obamaland so she could snipe and not get tainted by his last years.

If the elections were today she would be president. There is no dem with her popularity, and republicans are in the ****ter. The only republican who has universal appeal outside of the nutbar states is christie and he would never make the primaries. There is a chance the reps will hear the wake up call and cut the tea party loose so they can maybe ruide a wave of anti-dem hate in 2016 but I see them continuing to remind america just how incompetent and stupid they really are. If they run a tea party baby like cruz that would be the end of their hopes. Who knows, someone reasonable might come along, it could be a complete disaster for the dems if they get the house in 2014, and the tea party members of the right might all miraculously grow a brain ans STFU. Then she would have a problem. I just do not think she has much to worry about with republicans, just with her own health and perhaps someone coming up in her own party in the next year or two. She does not need to snipe at Biden that much, just remind everyone he is a VP for a reason, and that is because no one wants him as president.
 
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