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Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede[W:236]

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Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Wal-Mart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway. From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Wal-Mart said they wouldn't press charges if she left the food.



I'm figuring two things here: 1) walmart thought the glitch was in the govt system and that they were the one's footing the bill, or 2) that they could hold the govt accountable for paying for the glitch, since it involved a state program. Either way, a bunch of scumbags giving each other the infinite reach around
 
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Several someone's, apparently.

It's just ingrained in some people to figure that whatever a corporation does is bad. Hell, if Exxon started giving away free houses people would complain and cry "CONSPIRACY!!!".

what makes you think walmart wasn't simply comfortable with the abuse because they were unlikely to foot the bill? Seriously, why do you think they would care about the average tax payer, or that they wouldn't stop this if it was seen as having a negative effect on their profits?
 
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Not practically stealing. It IS stealing. Their benefits should be docked 25% each month until the overages are returned.

what `about walmart? They knowingly allowed the abuse to occur for likely what they saw as financial gain
 
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Really? What else was the store supposed to do? They had two options:
1. Nobody gets to use an EBT until things are fixed or

why wouldn't they do that? Do you think if a similar problem happened with bank cards, and the perceived cost was going to be put on them, they wouldn't simply stop taking bank cards? To call your view here Naive would be an understatement.

People are greedy. be they govt leaches, or corporate ones
 
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Yes. Its WalMarts fault for allowing poor people to buy food for their family and THATS what caused everyone to spread the word and make a run on Walmart stealing shopping carts full of food they knew they couldnt afford.

why can't it be both their faults? Seems like your setting up some silly false dilemma and one that ignores walmarts across the country turn away customers everyday who can't afford to feed their family.

It's not a ****ing charity
 
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what `about walmart? They knowingly allowed the abuse to occur for likely what they saw as financial gain
I would have said "because we'll get assraped in public opinion if we deny EBT users their food".

The amount of money involved would really not be worth what you seem to be attempting to blame them for.


That said, tis' my understanding that only a FEW wal-marts (or just one?) allowed this, so I am confused why this is...
 
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There's a such a thing as self responsibility. Something none of those people can comprehend.

do you find it ironic that you're using this argument to remove responsibility from walmart?

jesus, talk about your corporate fellating
 
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Why should the recipients get off scott free? The govt. should pay Wally World and take it off their next months' benefits until it's paid off.

why should the govt be on the hook for walmart's mistake? Let them fuss around trying to squeeze a stone.

But I agree, those people are not victims here. They're adults
 
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I would have said "because we'll get assraped in public opinion if we deny EBT users their food".

That isn't my problem as a tax payer
 
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Why do we insist on treating these adults like children that don't know better?

probably for the same reason you insist on treating walmart as one: political interests ...

Not sure why no one can't admit both parties were at fault and should face the consequences
 
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Also, Wal-Mart for giving the nod of approval to this. Corporations are people, right? This means we can put them in jail?

I'd be OK with that too. The super markets in my area just stop taking them while the glitch was ongoing.
 
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Your inability to recognize when theft has occurred may be why you are "very liberal". Just a thought...

Legal Dictionary | Law.com

n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale). In many states, if the value of the property taken is low (for example, less than $500) the crime is "petty theft," but it is "grand theft" for larger amounts, designated misdemeanor or felony, respectively. Theft is synonymous with "larceny." Although robbery (taking by force), burglary (taken by entering unlawfully) and embezzlement (stealing from an employer) are all commonly thought of as theft, they are distinguished by the means and methods used and are separately designated as those types of crimes in criminal charges and statutory punishments.

Legal definitions trump your personal opinion. This wasn't taken by force, unlawfully, or embezzled. It was taken with the full consent of Wal-Mart and its employees. I don't understand what is worse. That you can't define what kind of theft this was or that you can't place blame where blame is due. If a company makes a mistake and customers take full advantage of it, it's not theft. For example, I have gone to the store and decided to purchase an item. When it was rung through, the pricing on the shelf was different than that which was shown. When that mistake is made most stores have a policy of honoring the price on the shelf EVEN if it is a mistake. That's not theft.

In this case, Wal-Mart ignored the EBT limits. That's not the customer's problem. It's Wal-Mart's.
 
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why can't it be both their faults? Seems like your setting up some silly false dilemma and one that ignores walmarts across the country turn away customers everyday who can't afford to feed their family.

It's not a ****ing charity
No...it isnt a charity. And it made a business decision to allow people to purchase groceries to feed their family even though the fed system was ****ed up. And in return, people went on a wilding spree...and of course in your twisted ****ed up world, thats Walmarts fault.

FM
 
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That's one of the problems with OPM (other peoples money)
It is very addictive, and people just keep wanting more.

Obama voters

Worthless trash
 
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Looks like Walmart will be the generous one covering the losses.

Wal-Mart, Xerox blame each other for Louisiana shopping gone wild - chicagotribune.com

He said emergency procedures in place with Xerox allow retailers to call a phone number and receive authorization for purchases any time the EBT system is down. "Some retailers chose not to follow the process," he said. "Those businesses are only being reimbursed for the (maximum) amounts on individual cards," he said.

Williams said that amounts transacted above the cards' available balances were returned to Wal-Mart marked "as insufficient funds."
 
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Obama voters

Worthless trash
This is not something that started with Obama...
 
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In this case, Wal-Mart ignored the EBT limits. That's not the customer's problem. It's Wal-Mart's.

A few problems with this argument: 1) Walmart is not the entity issuing funds here, the US govt is 2) clearly these people are well aware of the fact that They do not possess unlimited EBT funds. So they were just as complicate in fraud here as Walmart.

I know everyone wants to use this to push a political agenda, but I have no tolerance for someone stealing my tax dollars, regardless if they don't pay federal income tax,, or if they have a corporate tax number.

If it was my decision I would pursue fraud charges against everyone involved, and allow the "who is paying for this" be decided in civil court between walmart and the numerous individuals involves.

**** all those assholes
 
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Where is Walmart's? Their responsibility was to follow the standards set on the EBT cards. They did not. They can't fault consumers for not following them either. It's not as if Wal-Mart corporates had no clue what was going on. They got wind of it. They should have put a stop to it. Is that not the mantra for you? If the higher ups know about it, they're at fault?
They didnt KNOW they were attempting to defraud Walmart...how could they POSSIBLY know??? They were just shoppping like normal and didnt think they were doing ANYTHING wrong. I mean...its not like they abandoned a trainload of groceries and shopping carts after the system came up. Why...they were just poor innocent victims.....

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No...it isnt a charity. And it made a business decision to allow people to purchase groceries to feed their family even though the fed system was ****ed up.

lol, no, they made a decision to try and defraud you for your hard earned tax dollars, just like the moops buying 50 gallons of Mayo. And for some reason you love them for it

And in return, people went on a wilding spree...and of course in your twisted ****ed up world, thats Walmarts fault.

No, in reality, it's , wait for it, BOTH THEIR FAULTS~!!!

FM[/QUOTE]
 
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They didnt KNOW they were attempting to defraud Walmart...how could they POSSIBLY know??? They were just shoppping like normal and didnt think they were doing ANYTHING wrong. I mean...its not like they abandoned a trainload of groceries and shopping carts after the system came up. Why...they were just poor innocent victims.....

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Yeah, and walmart dished out free trepinations to all their workers the day before. Hence, they didn't notice anything strange, either.

The fact that people are defending this from either party's perspective is mind blowing,and it's absolutely insane that both sides are using the same faulty logic to defend their position
 
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This is not something that started with Obama...

How many of those people do you think vote Republican
 
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How many of those people do you think vote Republican

You tell us. With statistics. :)
 
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How many of those people do you think vote Republican
Few.

But it still didn't start with obama, since he ain't the first democrat.
 
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