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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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Not in my experience.

Then it's curious how you spoke of their libertarian roots in past tense form.
 
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Then it's curious how you spoke of their libertarian roots in past tense form.

That I confined my statement to the past does not reveal anything about my view of the present.:peace
 
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You're going to have to define your terms. There is racism among conservatives just as there is racism among every political persuasion on the spectrum. It's like smoking; it used to be widespread but is now largely a secret vice. What I have said is that there is no racist component specific to Tea Party ideology (such as it is). The TP was largely libertarian in origin.:peace
Absolutely false, RWA's have by definition high tendency towards racism.
 
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An update to Altemeyer's "The Authoritarians" about the baggers:

12. Prejudice. Studies have found that authoritarian followers are among the most prejudiced
people in society. It is the nastiest aspect of their ethnocentrism, and one they insistently deny—to
others and to themselves. And they really do not realize how prejudiced they are, compared with
others, because they associate so much with other prejudiced people. So their prejudices seem
normal and perfectly justified to them.

Racial prejudice appeared at many of the Tea Party demonstrations, in the form of signs,
banners, and tee-shirts—just as it did during the 2008 campaign after Sarah Palin energized the
social conservatives. Tea Party spokespersons attributed these racist attacks to outsiders, “a few bad
apples,” or fringe members of the group. However Carl Paladino, the Republican candidate for
governor of New York who was enthusiastically supported by the Tea Party as a “100%
conservative,” was discovered on April 12, 2010 to have emailed racist photos (and also a picture of
a woman having sex with a horse) to a long list of friends. One doctored photo depicted the
president and Michelle Obama as a stereotyped black pimp and prostitute. Another described an
African tribal dance as the Obama inauguration rehearsal. A third picture showed an airplane
landing behind a group of black men, with the caption, “Holy ****, run niggers, run!"
Paladino quickly disassociated himself from the emails he sent, saying “That activity is not
Carl Paladino.” He didn‟t however say who it was instead, but still insisted he is not a racist. You
can be pretty sure that the rank-and-file of the Tea Party doesn‟t think he is either. But the point
here is, he sent these pictures to so many associates, some influential people in the movement had to
know what he thought. And it was apparently all right with them too, for he got a rousing Tea Party
endorsement.
The vitriol directed at Barack Obama seems unprecedented to many observers. It may be
that most Americans now see him as the President of the United States who happens to be African
American. But to many Tea Partiers he is a black man/N-word first, who has no right to be
president. Instead, he is a Muslim, a foreigner, a gangster, a fascist, a communist, even the anti
Christ. And they will probably never see him as anything else.



http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/drbob/Comment on the Tea Party.pdf
 
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Ah. Prejudice speaks.
It is beyond your capabilities to explain this in a detailed, non-superficial manner, so I won't even demand it.
 
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That I confined my statement to the past does not reveal anything about my view of the present.:peace

Too bad. Your initial statement was true. The Tea Party WAS founded in libertarian principles. It is no more.
 
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Is there a point to pointing me to a group of images largely created by right wingers?

The concept of "Right Wing Authoritarians" having a tendency towards racism is completely ignored, even though you and I have discussed Altemeyer before.

Get the DNC to explain them to you and explain why they aren't accurate. Guess some people, you, will do anything for a buck including defending the Obama Administration failures. That doesn't give you a lot of credibility as if you had any in the first place
 
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Get the DNC to explain them to you and explain why they aren't accurate. Guess some people, you, will do anything for a buck including defending the Obama Administration failures. That doesn't give you a lot of credibility as if you had any in the first place
Oh....you think I am a sock puppet for the DNC.

Report me as such, lets see how far that goes.
 
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Oh....you think I am a sock puppet for the DNC.

Report me as such, lets see how far that goes.

Yep, that is what I believe because no one has as much passion for failure as you do unless you get paid for it.
 
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Yep, that is what I believe because no one has as much passion for failure as you do unless you get paid for it.
You can fantasize to hearts content there Con....but if you really believe it....report me.

But back to the topic at hand and away from the personal attacks........did you read Altemeyer?
 
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You can fantasize to hearts content there Con....but if you really believe it....report me.

But back to the topic at hand and away from the personal attacks........did you read Altemeyer?

If you aren't employed by the DNC and are doing this on your own showing such passion for the failed economic results of this Administration then you really are out of touch with reality and have truly been brainwashed.
 
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If you aren't employed by the DNC and are doing this on your own showing such passion for the failed economic results of this Administration then you really are out of touch with reality and have truly been brainwashed.
OK...if you are not going to address the topic at hand and are going to continue with the personal attacks...
 
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I'd like to see a show of hands regarding who actually would WANT Cruz and Palin to stump for their election.

They probably get more requests than Obama gets.
 
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I'm not aware of any change.

The change was rather early. I'll let this libertarian explain it to you...

Tea Party ‘founder’: Palin, Gingrich a ‘joke’

A financial blogger and ex-CEO credited with being one of the original “founders” of the Tea Party has come out against the movement, saying it has been hijacked by the very people it was protesting and is now obsessed with “guns, gays and God.”

In a “message” to the Tea Party Wednesday, Karl Denninger declared that he “ought to sue” anyone who uses the Tea Party name “for defamation.”

“Yeah, that’s a joke,” he writes. “But so are you. All of you. Especially Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the ‘Tea Party Patriots.’”

Denninger writes: “Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than the Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with the Republican Party’s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!”​
 
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The change was rather early. I'll let this libertarian explain it to you...
Tea Party ‘founder’: Palin, Gingrich a ‘joke’

A financial blogger and ex-CEO credited with being one of the original “founders” of the Tea Party has come out against the movement, saying it has been hijacked by the very people it was protesting and is now obsessed with “guns, gays and God.”

In a “message” to the Tea Party Wednesday, Karl Denninger declared that he “ought to sue” anyone who uses the Tea Party name “for defamation.”

“Yeah, that’s a joke,” he writes. “But so are you. All of you. Especially Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the ‘Tea Party Patriots.’”

Denninger writes: “Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than the Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with the Republican Party’s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!”​

This would only matter if Palin, Gingrich and Barr were important to the TP.
 
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and Palin is important to the TPers; just like Klayman
This would only matter if Palin, Gingrich and Barr were important to the TP.
 
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The difference is, there is ample evidence to show that the baggers are mixing with and are in bed with the racists. The baggers are guilty of not disassociating with racist haters and therefore are branded with the label.

BS. If there is "ample evidence" of it, show it. That's right, you can't so we know what that makes you.
 
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