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Yes, the system is broken... Let's use the analogy of domestication of wild pigs. What you do is put some food out for the pigs... Do this for a week, then put up a post near the food, continue this until the fence is all but built, then you put out the food and the pigs can't help themselves and you just close the gate.

I like the frog and boiling water better.

Frankly, if you are stuck in minimum wage past 20, it's because you've made some bad life decisions.

This is probably true. Still, them being stuck in a minimum wage job doesn't help society either. Young people do stupid ****.

I'll tell you something; I have yet to meet a single person that is a combination of hard working, dedicated, intelligent, and or driven people that makes minimum wage or remains unemployed for very long.

This is true. Unfortunately, we will always have lazy people too.

what this means is that the failures are not just with the welfare system, it really is total systemic failures on every front, and the abuse of the social safety net is just among the symptoms of the greater problems we are facing as a society.

This is true.
 
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I am waiting for you to tell me the economic prediction Obama has made that has been accurate? Now he keeps making predictions and you keep buying them. Hope you are getting paid well.
OK, you want to change the topic, you have lost the argument.

Verdict: Imposing the debt limit was real and would have caused non-payment, default and damaged the credit of the US at a minimum. The argument from your side is that they would rather pay interest to China instead of paying for Medicare.
 
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OK, you want to change the topic, you have lost the argument.

Verdict: Imposing the debt limit was real and would have caused non-payment, default and damaged the credit of the US at a minimum. The argument from your side is that they would rather pay interest to China instead of paying for Medicare.

That is your opinion, now tell us how much you are getting paid to pass on this propaganda? Medicare is an entitlement and would have been paid out of the revenue that comes into the Treasury monthly just like SS, Medicaid, as well as SS
 
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The numbers I put out there are what has been bandied about on different programs in discussions, from FNC, to MSNBC. But I think maybe you are misreading the "national income" part of it....The way this idea has been talked about before in interviews, is that our current levels of spending would cap, and we would start real cuts of 1% of every dollar spent for 6 years, and this is supposed to balance the budget.

Not sure how I am misreading it. National income verses national revenue . . . whats the difference?
 
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Are we sure it wasn't 18% of GDP or something?

I'm sure, I even emboldened the quote and underlined it. Cap spending at 18% of national income. Now, I want to make it clear, I was using J-mac's numbers as it concerns revenue and interest on the debt. Although they seem accurate. We take in approximately $3.12-Trillion in tax revenue while paying $300-Billion a year on just the interest on the debt . . . no principal reduction is included in these numbers. So, if we take $300-Billion out to service the debt . . . we end up with approximately $2.8-Trillion to run our government. Leaving us with an approximate $1-Trillion budget deficit annually. Even if we wanted to just break even, we would have to eliminate approximately 26% of the estimated $3.8-Trillion budget this year. Immediately, and I do mean this instant if we are to follow the suggestions by J-mac.

Again, I am not smart enough to know how that can be done without hurting this country at this time. I am willing to be educated though. And even if we accomplished this task, we still would not be paying one dollar towards the principal on the debt.
 
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That is your opinion, now tell us how much you are getting paid to pass on this propaganda? Medicare is an entitlement and would have been paid out of the revenue that comes into the Treasury monthly just like SS, Medicaid, as well as SS
You are going in circles, we already went over the fact that the Treasury had already been juggling payments with cash on hand and was coming up to a point of cash shortage. You ignore the information from Lew and you call it "opinion". You have been dealing with faulty opinion from Horowitz and consider that to be fact. I'm afraid it is all upside down.

Good luck.
 
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I like the frog and boiling water better.

There is alot of that going on too, but this analogy was to say that by giving a free lunch you breed dependence, and dependence is the antithesis of freedom.



This is probably true. Still, them being stuck in a minimum wage job doesn't help society either. Young people do stupid ****.

Soon enough most o those minimum wage jobs will be performed by robots, so, you can imagine what the consequences o this will be to those filling those positions...

This is true. Unfortunately, we will always have lazy people too.

Ya... And if a person is simply lazy they need a kick in the butt sometimes, by NOT providing welfare to those people... They don't wanna work, they can suffer themselves.

Funny anecdote; was working this job where each day would walk under this bridge where each day this guy was asking for change. The third day he asks, I tell him "hey, just around the corner here there is a job, you can make 15$/hr just to walk on site and push a broom, you'll make more money there then you'll ever see under this bridge".

"oh that sounds good, I'll go there for sure." the next day I see him again and again he asked for change, so I ask him if he went to the site to get a job.

This a-hole tells me "I didn't have time."
 
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There is alot of that going on too, but this analogy was to say that by giving a free lunch you breed dependence, and dependence is the antithesis of freedom.





Soon enough most o those minimum wage jobs will be performed by robots, so, you can imagine what the consequences o this will be to those filling those positions...



Ya... And if a person is simply lazy they need a kick in the butt sometimes, by NOT providing welfare to those people... They don't wanna work, they can suffer themselves.

Funny anecdote; was working this job where each day would walk under this bridge where each day this guy was asking for change. The third day he asks, I tell him "hey, just around the corner here there is a job, you can make 15$/hr just to walk on site and push a broom, you'll make more money there then you'll ever see under this bridge".

"oh that sounds good, I'll go there for sure." the next day I see him again and again he asked for change, so I ask him if he went to the site to get a job.

This a-hole tells me "I didn't have time."

That's hilarious. :lol:
 
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You are going in circles, we already went over the fact that the Treasury had already been juggling payments with cash on hand and was coming up to a point of cash shortage. You ignore the information from Lew and you call it "opinion". You have been dealing with faulty opinion from Horowitz and consider that to be fact. I'm afraid it is all upside down.

Good luck.

My opinions are backed by logic and common sense as well as Treasury data. There is more than enough money coming in monthly to pay the entitlement obligations and interest on the debt to prevent default. keep spinning. Do you get extra for that
 
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Sarah Palin was the Cn'C of the Alaska National Guard. As Cn'C she paid a visit to her troops in 2007 in Kuwait during the Iraq war. This was back when 99.9 % didn't even know who Palin was. Her son also served in the Army and did a tour in Iraq.

Obama is suppose to be the Cn'C of our military and I didn't see him yesterday removing the barricades and carrying them over to his crib at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

BTW. Saraha Palin was just not a better Cn'C than Obama, but Palin had higher approval ratings from the troops as Cn'C than Obama ever had.

She should run for president!
 
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Paul needs to run as a Libertarian and simply be honest about it.

I don't consider Rand Paul much of a actual libertarian. He has some libertarian leanings, but for the most part, his base is the Christian right.
 
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She should run for president!

In 2008, she had more executive experience than Obama had. And we had access to her college transcripts and even her birth certificate.

And I'm sure Palin's first actions as POTUS wouldn't have been disgracing Great Britain by returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the British Embassy and Palin would have never embarrassed America by bowing to foreign monarchs and Vladimir Putin would be questioning his manhood and wondering how good of a rifle shot Sarah Palin was.

And we would still be unquestionably a world superpower.
 
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Hardly. BHO has been treated quite civilly compared to what the left did to GWB.

OMG!

Seriously?
 
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In 2008, she had more executive experience than Obama had. And we had access to her college transcripts and even her birth certificate.

And I'm sure Palin's first actions as POTUS wouldn't have been disgracing Great Britain by returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the British Embassy and Palin would have never embarrassed America by bowing to foreign monarchs and Vladimir Putin would be questioning his manhood and wondering how good of a rifle shot Sarah Palin was.

And we would still be unquestionably a world superpower.

Damn. This is the best fan fiction I have seen in a long time. Be sure to put her in a red white and blue leotard with a cape that has a cross on the back. And instead of a crown of thorns give her a crown of tea leaves . But for Fox, be sure you die her hair blond and give her a VIctorias Secret Bra with triple padding. And her boots need to be thigh high with spikey heels. Bible in one arm, Uzi in the other.

If you are gonna do it, do it right.

Just be sure she doesn't call the Justice League and quit because she doesn't want to be a lame duck superhero.
 
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Damn. This is the best fan fiction I have seen in a long time. Be sure to put her in a red white and blue leotard with a cape that has a cross on the back. And instead of a crown of thorns give her a crown of tea leaves . But for Fox, be sure you die her hair blond and give her a VIctorias Secret Bra with triple padding. And her boots need to be thigh high with spikey heels. Bible in one arm, Uzi in the other.

If you are gonna do it, do it right.

Just be sure she doesn't call the Justice League and quit because she doesn't want to be a lame duck superhero.

I seriously doubt Sarah would be holding a foreign made Usi in her hands. (Thats a leftist dream.)

More likely Sarah would have a 30-06 Winchester pre-64 Mod.70 rifle in her hands and a K-Bar strapped on her side.

You liberals/progressives still don't get it. You still can't distinguish America from the rest of the world.
 
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I couldn't give a rats ass what kind of weapon Caribou Barbie uses to hunt game in Alaska. She's still an idiot.
 
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Damn. This is the best fan fiction I have seen in a long time. Be sure to put her in a red white and blue leotard with a cape that has a cross on the back. And instead of a crown of thorns give her a crown of tea leaves . But for Fox, be sure you die her hair blond and give her a VIctorias Secret Bra with triple padding. And her boots need to be thigh high with spikey heels. Bible in one arm, Uzi in the other.

If you are gonna do it, do it right.

Just be sure she doesn't call the Justice League and quit because she doesn't want to be a lame duck superhero.

Ok, please tell us what was wrong in that post and why you continue to support Obama? What exactly has Obama done that generates this kind of loyalty for you. Are you really that close to being a socialist. You call what was posted fiction which calls into question whether or not you know the definition. Please tell me one, Just one economic prediction Obama has made that has been accurate? I can see that religion and the right to carry a gun scares you, probably as they should.
 
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I couldn't give a rats ass what kind of weapon Caribou Barbie uses to hunt game in Alaska. She's still an idiot.

You obviously don't care what Obama has done either so you voted for someone with less experience, no leadership skills at all, all because you bought the media spin and ignored the Obama resume.
 
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In 2008, she had more executive experience than Obama had. And we had access to her college transcripts and even her birth certificate.

And I'm sure Palin's first actions as POTUS wouldn't have been disgracing Great Britain by returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the British Embassy and Palin would have never embarrassed America by bowing to foreign monarchs and Vladimir Putin would be questioning his manhood and wondering how good of a rifle shot Sarah Palin was.

And we would still be unquestionably a world superpower.

I seriously doubt Sarah would be holding a foreign made Usi in her hands. (Thats a leftist dream.)

More likely Sarah would have a 30-06 Winchester pre-64 Mod.70 rifle in her hands and a K-Bar strapped on her side.

You liberals/progressives still don't get it. You still can't distinguish America from the rest of the world.

And thank Goodness, most Americans have no desire to see the likes of Sarah Palin distinguishing us from the rest of the world.
 
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And thank Goodness, most Americans have no desire to see the likes of Sarah Palin distinguishing us from the rest of the world.

I can tell you this, our enemies love having Obama in the WH because he is doing his best to destroy American exceptionalism by reducing our strength. I can see you are an "American Idol" voter, someone who has nothing in common with our Founders nor do you understand that results matter. You buy the smile, the personality, and the rhetoric while ignoring the substance which is the record.
 
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I couldn't give a rats ass what kind of weapon Caribou Barbie uses to hunt game in Alaska. She's still an idiot.

Actually, I'd put Palin at a much higher survival rate in the wilderness than much of the woosey, feminized male population today.
 
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I couldn't give a rats ass what kind of weapon Caribou Barbie uses to hunt game in Alaska. She's still an idiot.

The misogyny of the left is relentless.
 
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I couldn't give a rats ass what kind of weapon Caribou Barbie uses to hunt game in Alaska. She's still an idiot.

Yes, but it's all about extremism and racist hate so the right is temporarily blinded to reality. Idiots like Palin can do nothing but more damage to the R brand.

And as to her competence with a rifle, any person who has ever used one would be embarrassed with her display. Probably the first time she ever got behind one and fired it. Publicity stunt.
 
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