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Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

rocket88 said:
In my world? Well, it's true I don't live in a world where Republicans' **** doesn't stink, but really you are topping yourself...

If a Republican said that, you'd be defending him to the death and you know it.
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You seem to know so much and an expert on every topic. How do you know that I would be defending the rhetoric? Your bias and partisanship is based solely on a failed ideology and ignorance of actual results. Carry on making a fool of yourself
 
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Conservative said:
And where did that picture come from and who posted it? Want me to post the pictures of Palin and didn't they do a hatchet job movie on her?
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Doesn't matter, the point was that people from the right do the same to Pelosi and Clinton. So your assertion that the right only attacks based on facts and policies is untrue. Carry on making a fool of yourself.
 
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rocket88 said:
Doesn't matter, the point was that people from the right do the same to Pelosi and Clinton. So your assertion that the right only attacks based on facts and policies is untrue. Carry on making a fool of yourself.
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Oh, it doesn't matter because you say so? You have a double standard which most liberals do. Please explain to me why you continue to support the failed ideology of liberalism
 
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Conservative said:
Oh, it doesn't matter because you say so? You have a double standard which most liberals do. Please explain to me why you continue to support the failed ideology of liberalism
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It's better than the failed ideology of conservatism.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

Conservative said:
Oh, it doesn't matter because you say so? You have a double standard which most liberals do. Please explain to me why you continue to support the failed ideology of liberalism
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So do whatever you want. It's a waste of bandwidth. Unlike you, I do not support any particular ideology but my own. Party hacks piss me off.

You missed my point, probably intentionally because it doesn't support your worldview, and now have changed the subject because of it. Typical day for you.
 
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Thorgasm said:
It's better than the failed ideology of conservatism.
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Then post the economic results that show that? Your opinion is noted but it does seem that you think only with your heart thus you want to believe what you are told. Obama has almost added more debt than Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush combine, has terrible economic growth, job creation but he is doing exactly what he wants, converting this country into that European socialist Utopia that you and other liberals want, single payer, govt. spending the number one component of GDP, massive dependence on the govt., massive debt, stagnant economic growth, yes the new liberal normal
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

rocket88 said:
So do whatever you want. It's a waste of bandwidth. Unlike you, I do not support any particular ideology but my own. Party hacks piss me off.

You missed my point, probably intentionally because it doesn't support your worldview, and now have changed the subject because of it. Typical day for you.
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My world view is conservative in nature, the only economic policy that makes any sense at all and the only one where individuals can succeed and become the best they are capable of being.
 
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Conservative said:
Then post the economic results that show that? Your opinion is noted but it does seem that you think only with your heart thus you want to believe what you are told. Obama has almost added more debt than Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush combine, has terrible economic growth, job creation but he is doing exactly what he wants, converting this country into that European socialist Utopia that you and other liberals want, single payer, govt. spending the number one component of GDP, massive dependence on the govt., massive debt, stagnant economic growth, yes the new liberal normal
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It's still better.
 
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Conservative said:
For whom? You believe it is better to be dependent on the taxpayers than generating your own personal wealth?
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I don't mind giving something back to society. Do you?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I don't mind giving something back to society. Do you?
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I don't mind either but who says that I cannot give back better than having the Federal Bureaucrats tell you where it should go while collecting their salaries and administrative costs and growing their power. When you give a dollar to help someone how much of that dollar goes to helping that person. What is the percentage of that so called govt. help?
 
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Conservative said:
I don't mind either but who says that I cannot give back better than having the Federal Bureaucrats tell you where it should go while collecting their salaries and administrative costs and growing their power. When you give a dollar to help someone how much of that dollar goes to helping that person. What is the percentage of that so called govt. help?
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There's that risk in the private sector too.
 
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Thorgasm said:
There's that risk in the private sector too.
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With personal spending, you have a choice where to spend that money, not so with the Federal Govt. If the private sector abuses your trust give your money to someone else. do you have that option with the Federal Govt.?
 
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Conservative said:
With personal spending, you have a choice where to spend that money, not so with the Federal Govt. If the private sector abuses your trust give your money to someone else. do you have that option with the Federal Govt.?
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I don't need that option from the federal govt.
 
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Thorgasm said:
I don't need that option from the federal govt.
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then you need the Federal Govt. to take your money and spend it where they want. You are exactly what Obama wants and needs.
 
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Conservative said:
then you need the Federal Govt. to take your money and spend it where they want. You are exactly what Obama wants and needs.
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Republicans do it too. They just choose war more often. How much has Iraq cost us?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I don't mind giving something back to society. Do you?
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Then give back to society. But you are asking others to involuntarily give back to society through the force of government. And the more power the liberals insist on giving the government the less power every individual has. You'll happily give bureaucrats and politicians more control over your lives while others want to remain more free.

Liberals tend to think (incorrectly) that the economy is a zero sum game but they never seem to recognize power that way.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Republicans do it too. They just choose war more often. How much has Iraq cost us?
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What does that have to do with the choice of where to spend your money. Common defense is the responsibility of this govt. and you seem to continue to ignore it was the Democrat Senate that authorized the war in Iraq 76-23 and it was the Democrats' own rhetoric that prevented impeachment charges from being brought because that rhetoric would have destroyed them. Fact remains the public can and do spend their money more wisely than the Federal Govt. on social issues. Defense isn't a social issue.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Republicans do it too. They just choose war more often. How much has Iraq cost us?
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WWI - Democrat
WWII-Democrat
Korean War- Democrat
Bay of Pigs- Democrat
Vietnam War- Democrat
Iraq-Republican
Afghanistan-Republican

There was also a time when Americans supported their leaders in time of war, not dictators like Saddam Hussein or the murderous groups like the Taliban. The history of the modern Left is riddled with their members aiding, abetting and propagandizing for Communism.
 
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Grant said:
Then give back to society. But you are asking others to involuntarily give back to society through the force of government. And the more power the liberals insist on giving the government the less power every individual has. You'll happily give bureaucrats and politicians more control over your lives while others want to remain more free.

Liberals tend to think (incorrectly) that the economy is a zero sum game but they never seem to recognize power that way.
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Taxes are part of the social contract.

Resources are finite.
 
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Conservative said:
What does that have to do with the choice of where to spend your money. Common defense is the responsibility of this govt. and you seem to continue to ignore it was the Democrat Senate that authorized the war in Iraq 76-23 and it was the Democrats' own rhetoric that prevented impeachment charges from being brought because that rhetoric would have destroyed them. Fact remains the public can and do spend their money more wisely than the Federal Govt. on social issues. Defense isn't a social issue.
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Iraq wasn't "Defense". It was "Offense".
 
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Thorgasm said:
Taxes are part of the social contract.
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Are they? Perhaps you have some material to support this claim? Does that material of yours also provide what percentages of private property the government should take from any individual?

Resources are finite.
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Exactly, which is why the government should not be many trillions of dollars in debt. They have exhausted their resources yet continue to demand and spend more and you appear to support this.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

Grant said:
WWI - Democrat
WWII-Democrat
Korean War- Democrat
Bay of Pigs- Democrat
Vietnam War- Democrat
Iraq-Republican
Afghanistan-Republican

There was also a time when Americans supported their leaders in time of war, not dictators like Saddam Hussein or the murderous groups like the Taliban. The history of the modern Left is riddled with their members aiding, abetting and propagandizing for Communism.
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There was a time when Congress declared war.

Did you really just point to the three Democrat Wars that used the "Red Scare" to justify those wars and then attack them for being sympathetic to Communism?:rofl
 
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