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Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

polgara said:
To paraphrase the Kingston Trio..."what did you learn today, dear little boy of mine?" And how long was it before you could sit comfortably? :mrgreen:
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My recollection, more than a week.
 
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rocket88 said:
Here's a valid argument then: maybe Cruz should be on Capitol Hill working toward a solution. You know, doing his job....
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Cruz was doing his job, seeing that just not veterans but all Americans have access to our country's memorials.

Are you going to hold all of those Democrat members of Congress to the same standards last Tuesday who had no problem with the National Mall being closed to Americans but demanded that the National Mall be open to illegal aliens so they could DEMAND, not ask but DEMAND for amnesty, citizenship and free stuff.
And they went further, instead of being inside the Capitol working towards a solution they rallied alongside with the illegal aliens on the closed National Mall.
 
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APACHERAT said:
Cruz was doing his job, seeing that just not veterans but all Americans have access to our country's memorials.

Are you going to hold all of those Democrat members of Congress to the same standards last Tuesday who had no problem with the National Mall being closed to Americans but demanded that the National Mall be open to illegal aliens so they could DEMAND, not ask but DEMAND for amnesty, citizenship and free stuff.
And they went further, instead of being inside the Capitol working towards a solution they rallied alongside with the illegal aliens on the closed National Mall.
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I would hold them to the same standards. It appears that you are using different standards depending on party.
 
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MarineTpartier said:
We'll see. I think you underestimate him. He has a little more clout with conservatives than his dad did, keeps the hardcore supporters due to his last name, and his dad always polled well with independents and Democrats. In fact, his dad polled better against Pres Obama than any other Republican candidate in '12. He's as good or better a speaker as anyone the Dems can put forth, he doesn't have the neocon record to go after like 99% of Republicans, and he's more socially liberal than most Republicans. I think he and Senator Rubio are very serious threats to Democrats. Hillary can't hang with either of them in my opinion and we both know that Benghazi will blow up in her face. She's got nothing for that.
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LOL....are you being serious? Wow.....you guys keep trying that Benghazi B.S....it hasn't stuck the first 1459 times....what makes you guys think that 1460 will be the time? Rubio is DOA. There isn't a Republican out there that will pose even the slightest challenge to Hilary with the exception of Christie...but the GOP is so wacko that Christie doesn't stand a chance at getting the nod....unless the GOP wises up at kicks the teabaggers to the curb. Otherwise...this is a cakewalk for us in 2016
 
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polgara said:
Dropping Home Ecnomics for girls is now hitting home. Since many of today's girls had moms who didn't learn the basics of cooking, sewing, etc, they are unable to teach their daughters. I am a volunteer who teaches bread baking, and home canning, dehydrating, etc, of fruits, vegetables and everything else we eat, and my classess are getting larger all the time. The interest is there because of the fear of what the future may bring, but they don't know what to do. Today's emphasis seems to be on classes that prepare kids for college, which is fine, but we still have to eat! Those women are so grateful to learn that it makes me wonder who ever made the decision to drop Home Economics :screwy:

Greetings, APACHERAT. :2wave:
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We had a teacher's strike and a downtown flood simultaneously in Minot ND back in 1968. There was no art teacher, so they made an all boys home ec. class for us. You couldn't get less than a C grade, even if you didn't participate.

I learned how to sew, cook, and design square meals from the five (this was way before the food pyramid) basic food groups. Everything that I learned in that class has benefited me during my life.

My brownies are to die for.
 
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disneydude said:
LOL....are you being serious? Wow.....you guys keep trying that Benghazi B.S....it hasn't stuck the first 1459 times....what makes you guys think that 1460 will be the time? Rubio is DOA. There isn't a Republican out there that will pose even the slightest challenge to Hilary with the exception of Christie...but the GOP is so wacko that Christie doesn't stand a chance at getting the nod....unless the GOP wises up at kicks the teabaggers to the curb. Otherwise...this is a cakewalk for us in 2016
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Im not viewing things through the partisan glasses you are (per the usual). I know Hillary will be a formidable opponent. However, Rubio and Paul definitely have something for her. Neither is a Romney/Santorum/Gingrich. Every serious candidate the GOP has didn't show up for 2012 because Pres Obama looked to be unbeatable. In 2016, that isn't the case. It will be up for grabs. Hillary is formidable, but she's no Obama. Benghazi, mark my words, will be an issue. Regardless of what you think, something fishy happened there and she was the Sec of State when it happened. I don't believe any opponent on the right, and maybe even on the left, will let that go without it being mentioned.
 
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rocket88 said:
I would hold them to the same standards. It appears that you are using different standards depending on party.
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It's the individual political parties that have double standards.

My party believes there should be different standards when it comes to American citizens and non-citizens.
That all Americans should have the same Constitutional rights and protections. That non-citizens shouldn't have all of the same rights.

Where as the Democrat Party believes that all Americans aren't equal. That some Americans should have more rights and protections than the majority. But the Democrats go further, they believe that non-citizens and illegal aliens should have more rights than American citizens. Like having access to the National Mall when access is denied to American citizens.
 
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APACHERAT said:
My party believes there should be different standards when it comes to American citizens and non-citizens.
That all Americans should have the same Constitutional rights and protections. That non-citizens shouldn't have all of the same rights.
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But I thought our rights came from God, not the Constitution. Are you saying that non-citizens have a different Creator?


Regardless, I think Congresspersons of either party should be at the Capitol working on a solution to the shutdown. Preferably with the door locked until they come up with something. If we cut off their paychecks and locked them in a papal-style conclave we'd have a solution really quick.
 
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APACHERAT said:
The only time Obama has ever visited the troops were only for photo ops. Never has Obama been with the troops without a camera being present.

President Clinton would mingle with the enlisted without cameras. He was trying to earn the respect of the troops. (For obvious reasons.)

G.W. Bush wouldn't allow pictures to be taken when meeting with the families of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice.

Ronald Reagan never needed a photo-op with the troops. He loved the U.S. military and those who served. And the U.S. military already knew it and they loved him. Reagan didn't even have to earn the respect of those who were serving or had served, he already had their respect.
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Why would the troops have any respect for Barrack Obama? He didn't support them in Iraq and after supporting Afghanistan he then announced a retreat, leaving them there to die for no good reason. (Shades of Benghazi!) The troops probably make him very nervous and the Dems will certainly not getting of their votes, as well they know.
 
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rocket88 said:
But I thought our rights came from God, not the Constitution. Are you saying that non-citizens have a different Creator?


Regardless, I think Congresspersons of either party should be at the Capitol working on a solution to the shutdown. Preferably with the door locked until they come up with something. If we cut off their paychecks and locked them in a papal-style conclave we'd have a solution really quick.
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You probably haven't heard that Obama refuses to negotiate and Reid has already turned down offers to reopen the National Parks and Veterans Affairs. Who would Cruz negotiate with??
 
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Exactly what troops did he leave in Afghanistan to die?
Grant said:
Why would the troops have any respect for Barrack Obama? He didn't support them in Iraq and after supporting Afghanistan he then announced a retreat, leaving them there to die for no good reason. (Shades of Benghazi!) The troops probably make him very nervous and the Dems will certainly not getting of their votes, as well they know.
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MarineTpartier said:
Im not viewing things through the partisan glasses you are (per the usual). I know Hillary will be a formidable opponent. However, Rubio and Paul definitely have something for her. Neither is a Romney/Santorum/Gingrich. Every serious candidate the GOP has didn't show up for 2012 because Pres Obama looked to be unbeatable. In 2016, that isn't the case. It will be up for grabs. Hillary is formidable, but she's no Obama. Benghazi, mark my words, will be an issue. Regardless of what you think, something fishy happened there and she was the Sec of State when it happened. I don't believe any opponent on the right, and maybe even on the left, will let that go without it being mentioned.
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A very serious question would be WHY is Hillary a serious candidate.
 
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Grant said:
You probably haven't heard that Obama refuses to negotiate and Reid has already turned down offers to reopen the National Parks and Veterans Affairs. Who would Cruz negotiate with??
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If my suggestion of locking them in were followed, he'd have plenty of people to negotiate with. 534 of them to be exact.
 
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What troops did the POTUS leave there to die, for no reason?
Grant said:
Why would the troops have any respect for Barrack Obama? He didn't support them in Iraq and after supporting Afghanistan he then announced a retreat, leaving them there to die for no good reason. (Shades of Benghazi!) The troops probably make him very nervous and the Dems will certainly not getting of their votes, as well they know.
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Grant said:
Did you not hear that Barrack Obama has announced a 'withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Obama announces 34,000 troops to come home - CNN.com
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d0gbreath said:
We had a teacher's strike and a downtown flood simultaneously in Minot ND back in 1968. There was no art teacher, so they made an all boys home ec. class for us. You couldn't get less than a C grade, even if you didn't participate.

I learned how to sew, cook, and design square meals from the five (this was way before the food pyramid) basic food groups. Everything that I learned in that class has benefited me during my life.

My brownies are to die for.
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All right, you talked me into trying them, since brownies are my favorite food! I'm sending you an order for one dozen, please. :thumbs:

Greetings, Dogbreath. :2wave:
 
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APACHERAT said:
Sarah Palin was the Cn'C of the Alaska National Guard. As Cn'C she paid a visit to her troops in 2007 in Kuwait during the Iraq war. This was back when 99.9 % didn't even know who Palin was. Her son also served in the Army and did a tour in Iraq.

Obama is suppose to be the Cn'C of our military and I didn't see him yesterday removing the barricades and carrying them over to his crib at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

BTW. Saraha Palin was just not a better Cn'C than Obama, but Palin had higher approval ratings from the troops as Cn'C than Obama ever had.
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Wasn't her husband a member of a separatist organization that advocated the break-up of the Union?
 
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Grand Mal said:
Wasn't her husband a member of a separatist organization that advocated the break-up of the Union?
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Why are the leftists always attacking or insinuating Sarah Palins family? Whats the matter with you people??
 
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Grant said:
Why would the troops have any respect for Barrack Obama? He didn't support them in Iraq and after supporting Afghanistan he then announced a retreat, leaving them there to die for no good reason. (Shades of Benghazi!) The troops probably make him very nervous and the Dems will certainly not getting of their votes, as well they know.
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The vast majority of the troops have little respect for Obama as President and as their Commander in Chief.
Obama said he was going to use social engineering to change the face of the U.S. military. He's redefining the purpose and character of the U.S. military.

Name one other President in history that ordered Marines to remove the bolts from their rifles fearing a military coups on Obama's second inauguration ? You can't because only Obama has done it.

No other President has had such a high disapproval rating from the troops than Obama.

Military Times Poll
 
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He was a member of the party that wanted Alaska to seceded from the union. IIRC.
Grand Mal said:
Wasn't her husband a member of a separatist organization that advocated the break-up of the Union?
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Grand Mal said:
Wasn't her husband a member of a separatist organization that advocated the break-up of the Union?
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Nothing new, Obama has been breaking up and dividing America since day one.
 
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APACHERAT said:
The vast majority of the troops have little respect for Obama as President and as their Commander in Chief.
Obama said he was going to use social engineering to change the face of the U.S. military. He's redefining the purpose and character of the U.S. military.

Name one other President in history that ordered Marines to remove the bolts from their rifles fearing a military coups on Obama's second inauguration ? You can't because only Obama has done it.

No other President has had such a high disapproval rating from the troops than Obama.

Military Times Poll
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Thanks for the poll. Seems about right too.
 
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APACHERAT said:
Nothing new, Obama has been breaking up and dividing America since day one.
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I think that's the environment he was born into as a politician, he's just used it to his political advantage. The divisions go back, way back.
 
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Grant said:
Thanks for the poll. Seems about right too.
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And the Military Times is no right wing rag, it PC.
But not as bad as Stars and Stripes. Talk about censorship to protect Obama.
 
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