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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Is it the government that abuses them? Or is it Fox news, Republican talk radio, social media, websites, that all demonize and humiliate those receiving assistance? The constant belittling and labeling of "moochers", "losers", "takers", "lazy", what do you think that does to them? You might be surprised how many people don't want assistance and would rather have a good paying job in which they completely support themselves, all they need is a little help through a rough patch and things would be better.

But instead we toil in a loop where the middle class has so little money to spend we can't kickstart the economy through demand. Inequality is not just unfair it breaks the economy for everyone but the top 20%.

You continue to use quotes but never the source.

And of course where there is more government there is less money for the people. The shrinking middle class and higher poverty should not come as a surprise.
 
Pffft, "encourage mediocrity", you might think walking around with a whip beating people half to death makes them work harder, but it doesn't. This isn't the middle ages, we don't need such barbaric principles guiding us. Get into the sciences and talk to some psychologists, psychiatrists about what motivates people to be more efficient. It isn't jail time, threats, negative stimulus, its positive stimulus, its help, a safety net, security, a helping hand when you're down. Positive reinforcement is far more powerful than negative.

This is what the exploiters want, us to stab each other in the back over fear of losing something. Fear that part of my paycheck is going to somebody else that doesn't deserve it, rather than the possibility that it benefits us all greater than our individual input would otherwise.

Who do you feel is doing all this stabbing?
 
That wasn't my question.

Do you feel that the country can afford to spend a trillions dollars a year of money it doesn't have? That is over and above what the government is already spending. How long do you think this can continue?
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For right now we can, its not our biggest problem, not by a long shot. People seem to forget the glorious position we are in. We hold the world's reserve currency, we owe everyone money that we can PRINT. Its a pretty sweet deal but the ultra rich don't want to lose their wealth through inflation tax so they spread the rumors that the world will end if we devalue our currency a little bit over the years.

Our real problems are jobs, inefficient healthcare and a stalled economy. The debt is just numbers, people without a job are actually suffering every day.
 
You continue to use quotes but never the source.

And of course where there is more government there is less money for the people. The shrinking middle class and higher poverty should not come as a surprise.

Who has all the money?
 
Is it the government that abuses them? Or is it Fox news, Republican talk radio, social media, websites, that all demonize and humiliate those receiving assistance? The constant belittling and labeling of "moochers", "losers", "takers", "lazy", what do you think that does to them? You might be surprised how many people don't want assistance and would rather have a good paying job in which they completely support themselves, all they need is a little help through a rough patch and things would be better.

But instead we toil in a loop where the middle class has so little money to spend we can't kickstart the economy through demand. Inequality is not just unfair it breaks the economy for everyone but the top 20%.

Our government, as it currently exists, has no interest in creating a more independent society. If it did, it wouldn't take much to do so. Take energy independence as an example. If we were to commit to the idea, it would create a vast amount of middle class jobs. Another example to combine with that would be the encouragement of manufacturing in the country by reducing the tax and regulatory burden on those businesses, but when catering to special interests (wealthy progs) is the goal, it makes it difficult to enact those types of reform...
 
Exactly what do you think the government is doing to the spirits of the individuals mired within their current dependency on government programs? No, it's not physical abuse, just mental, but you seem to be okay with that...

I wonder what is going to happen to everyone's spirits in the coming years when we are all mired in the latest government program...Obamacare. Hope for the best, but the beginning sure isn't auspicious!

Greetings, AP. :2wave: Your new picture is interesting...is it Mexico?
 
Who do you feel is doing all this stabbing?

People who spend their time complaining on a forum about less than 100B a year being spent on welfare in the U.S. There are much bigger fish to fry.
 
I wonder what is going to happen to everyone's spirits in the coming years when we are all mired in the latest government program...Obamacare. Hope for the best, but the beginning sure isn't auspicious!

Greetings, AP. :2wave: Your new picture is interesting...is it Mexico?

Yes, it is the view from my brother's condo. Good evening pg...
 
Our government, as it currently exists, has no interest in creating a more independent society. If it did, it wouldn't take much to do so. Take energy independence as an example. If we were to commit to the idea, it would create a vast amount of middle class jobs. Another example to combine with that would be the encouragement of manufacturing in the country by reducing the tax and regulatory burden on those businesses, but when catering to special interests (wealthy progs) is the goal, it makes it difficult to enact those types of reform...

I would like a more independent society as well but busting the chops of the people receiving assistance isn't going to make that happen.

I'm going to assume you don't believe in climate change. Fossil fuels hold a terrible future for the environment if we go that route of kicking up tar sands and shale. I believe its going to be very painful to deal with in the not so distant future so any benefit we get is going to be trumped many times over by the consequences. I'm sure you think its all baloney but too many respected scientists and organizations say otherwise.

We could try to compete manufacturing but its a race to the bottom. I think we'd be better off focusing on investing in higher technology, something we can be dominant in. Not to mention that ship already sailed, the jobs aren't coming back.
 
Those that earned it and the politicians spending what we don't have in an unproductive manner...

If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?

EDIT: I must run off now.
 
For right now we can, its not our biggest problem, not by a long shot. People seem to forget the glorious position we are in. We hold the world's reserve currency, we owe everyone money that we can PRINT. Its a pretty sweet deal but the ultra rich don't want to lose their wealth through inflation tax so they spread the rumors that the world will end if we devalue our currency a little bit over the years.

Our real problems are jobs, inefficient healthcare and a stalled economy. The debt is just numbers, people without a job are actually suffering every day.

Well as long as you believe that money and the economy is 'just numbers', and enough people agree with you, then the future is clear.
 
I would like a more independent society as well but busting the chops of the people receiving assistance isn't going to make that happen.

I'm going to assume you don't believe in climate change. Fossil fuels hold a terrible future for the environment if we go that route of kicking up tar sands and shale. I believe its going to be very painful to deal with in the not so distant future so any benefit we get is going to be trumped many times over by the consequences. I'm sure you think its all baloney but too many respected scientists and organizations say otherwise.

We could try to compete manufacturing but its a race to the bottom. I think we'd be better off focusing on investing in higher technology, something we can be dominant in. Not to mention that ship already sailed, the jobs aren't coming back.

I'm not here busting the chops of those receiving assistance. I'm more concerned with those who would provide it over a prolonged period. Are you more concerned with possible AGW or the current economic condition of your fellow man? You can't have it both ways. Not everyone is suited to a HiTech world, and we'll just need to deal with that little factoid...
 
If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?

Your comparison of government with drug cartels is actually an excellent analogy.
 
If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?

How do you propose to tax an illegal activity? Listen, I didn't agree with the bailouts in '08-'09, but that's what we are dealing with in today's political environment. I would have preferred that those entities were actually broken up, but we have only enacted legislation since that time to further protect these TBTF entities...
 
Yes, that would be it. They want some up-dating in order to make it more government friendly.

Which was exactly what the Framers did not want! We were once the envy of the world, and most successful societies followed our example. It appears that irks some people to no end!

Greetings, Grant. :2wave:
 
Which was exactly what the Framers did not want! We were once the envy of the world, and most successful societies followed our example. It appears that irks some people to no end!

Greetings, Grant. :2wave:

We, as a nation, still are the envy of most countries... :mrgreen:
 
So if I buy a bunch of houses I can't pay for, should society pay my mortgage? Why should health care be treated differently than any other debt?

Not remotely the same thing. You not owning a lot of houses is not a public health issue.
 
Which was exactly what the Framers did not want! We were once the envy of the world, and most successful societies followed our example. It appears that irks some people to no end!

Greetings, Grant. :2wave:

Hi Polgara!

So many people throughout the world have admired the freedoms and success of the American people while inexplicably not changing their own systems to something similar. The Constitution and Bill of Rights would suit every people, as has been shown, which makes it doubly amazing that Americans, who should know better, would want to change it,
 
We, as a nation, still are the envy of most countries... :mrgreen:

Those numbers may be dwindling, and I believe it's a damned shame. Other countries should be emulating America, not America emulating failed socialist countries.
 
Those numbers may be dwindling, and I believe it's a damned shame. Other countries should be emulating America, not America emulating failed socialist countries.

That's how failed companies think.
 
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