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Kobie said:
Lazily challenged 1/10 of it. And I actually AGREE with you on a couple of the ones you did. Specifically 1 and 3.

The stimulus wasn't intended to "improve the economy," it was intended to PREVENT a full-blown depression. The only "improvement" was to pull it out of its death spiral. And the idea that there has been "very little economic improvement" since the stimulus is ridiculous. The economy isn't good now, but it's exponentially better than it was in early 2009.

The intent of the article, at least for me, was not to say that all 50 of those are even legit accomplishments, it was to challenge the notion posted by someone else that Obama had zero accomplishments. That's simply asinine.
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That'd be fair. Obama has had accomplishments.

Just from my view, they've not really helped the country or not helped the country as much as they could have / should have / were claimed to have / were promised to.

But to get to that level of discussion would be a back and forth on each of the 50 points, and that would surely derail this thread, which is impolite from my understanding. Hence I really don't agree with your characterization of 'Lazily challenged', as I did indicate no time / space for more than the top 5.
 
a351 said:
His intellectual abilities pertaining to medicine are beyond question. His political philosophy thus far has proven to be absolutely cartoonish. Not all who are successful in other venues have a firm grasp on political or historical reality. Donald Trump immediately comes to mind.
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That isn't a very good argument. Mass acceptance of an issue doesn't mean the masses are right. And that is what your basis is.
 
DSA said:
That isn't a very good argument. Mass acceptance of an issue doesn't mean the masses are right. And that is what your basis is.
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That's not even remotely close to what his "basis" is.
 
Kobie said:
That's not even remotely close to what his "basis" is.
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I doubt I'm wrong, but if he is mentioning Trump in this, he is talking about those that don't feel that Obama is a natural born citizen.
 
DSA said:
I doubt I'm wrong, but if he is mentioning Trump in this, he is talking about those that don't feel that Obama is a natural born citizen.
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"Not all who are successful in other venues have a firm grasp on political or historical reality."

That's the sentence before he mentioned Trump.
 
Kobie said:
Oh please. You, in the other thread, explicitly stated that discussing Palin's comments that prefaced Bashir's outburst was somehow tacitly defending Bashir. Yes, you are a hypocrite.
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You're not making sense.
 
Kobie said:
A conservative's definition of "low information voter" = "someone who doesn't vote the way I do."

It's quite a self-serving racket you guys have built for yourselves, believing that everyone who may have voted for Obama doesn't know anything.
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“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”― Ronald Reagan
 
Grant said:
“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”― Ronald Reagan
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"Cool story, guy who traded arms for hostages." -- Kobie
 
Kobie said:
"Cool story, guy who traded arms for hostages." -- Kobie
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Yes, perhaps the greatest American President ever. In fact one of the great world leaders.

He certainly had your number!
 
Grant said:
Yes, perhaps the greatest American President ever. In fact one of the great world leaders.

He certainly had your number!
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By no reasonable metric is Reagan the greatest American President ever.
 
Grant said:
Well not to you because you are a leftist and Reagan oversaw the demise of Communism. I understand that.
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*WHARRGARBL* Liberals are commies! *WHARRGARBL*

Predictable as the sunrise.
 
Kobie said:
*WHARRGARBL* Liberals are commies! *WHARRGARBL*

Predictable as the sunrise.
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Who are you quoting here?

The liberal's lack of comprehension skills stopped being surprising some time ago. Now it's just amusing.
 
Grant said:
Who are you quoting here?

The liberal's lack of comprehension skills stopped being surprising some time ago. Now it's just amusing.
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Ah, now the "that's not what I meant" defense. :roll:

Oh wise one, tell me how I was supposed to interpret that asinine comment then?
 
Kobie said:
Ah, now the "that's not what I meant" defense. :roll:

Oh wise one, tell me how I was supposed to interpret that asinine comment then?
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Earlier I said "Perhaps" Ronald Regan was the greatest US President and you responded that No way was he the greatest President, which of course I didn't say. Then you fabricate a quote that nobody said.

I don't know whether this is deliberate or just ongoing carelessness. Either way debating with liberals is a chore.
 
Grant said:
Earlier I said "Perhaps" Ronald Regan was the greatest US President and you responded that No way was he the greatest President, which of course I didn't say. Then you fabricate a quote that nobody said.

I don't know whether this is deliberate or just ongoing carelessness. Either way debating with liberals is a chore.
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I did not "fabricate a quote." I paraphrased.

Debating with YOU is a chore because you're shockingly dishonest and always try to play dumb when called on the stupid things you post.
 
Grant said:
Earlier I said "Perhaps" Ronald Regan was the greatest US President and you responded that No way was he the greatest President, which of course I didn't say. Then you fabricate a quote that nobody said.

I don't know whether this is deliberate or just ongoing carelessness. Either way debating with liberals is a chore.
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"Perhaps" allows for the possibility. "No way" doesn't. You're the one off track here. His response was appropriate.
 
j-mac said:
I bet you think Maher is an intellectual. He certainly does.
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Intellectual? Maybe a little. I'd say he more states the obvious and often makes it funny, kind of like Jon Stewart. He's also very often right, which makes him a hated figure. That's why Fox calls him Pig Maher.
 
Verax said:
Intellectual? Maybe a little. I'd say he more states the obvious and often makes it funny, kind of like Jon Stewart. He's also very often right, which makes him a hated figure. That's why Fox calls him Pig Maher.
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Stewart's just funnier. ;)
 
Verax said:
Intellectual? Maybe a little. I'd say he more states the obvious and often makes it funny, kind of like Jon Stewart. He's also very often right, which makes him a hated figure. That's why Fox calls him Pig Maher.
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:lamo Not even a little...Maher is a sad, pathetic, loser liberal who is angry at the world, and especially angry at those who don't fall in line with his F'd up progressive world view. And what makes it worse is that people, mostly vapid people think his rant, and vile are intellectual.
 
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