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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Hyperbole much?

P.S. - Carson believes the Earth is five or six thousand years old.

Huh.

That's...interesting. Compartmentalized intelligence is one thing, but being a surgeon and not believing that, say, bacteria adapts to become resistant to antibiotics would seem problematic to me.
 
That certainly wouldn't mean that Tyson doesn't know exactly what is wrong with your car nor would it mean he couldn't fix your car.

I'd still take my car to a mechanic.
 
I'd still take my car to a mechanic.

So then you might take your car to Tyson. Just in case you never noticed, there's all kinds of auto parts stores that sell parts to mechanics of all shapes and sizes. Tyson just might be one of their customers.
 
So then you might take your car to Tyson. Just in case you never noticed, there's all kinds of auto parts stores that sell parts to mechanics of all shapes and sizes. Tyson just might be one of their customers.

I'm relatively certain Kobie's point was that expertise in one area doesn't automatically grant expertise in others.
 
I'm relatively certain Kobie's point was that expertise in one area doesn't automatically grant expertise in others.

Well, here's part of what he said: " that doesn't make him any more qualified to comment on legislation".

That doesn't show why he is not qualified to comment on legislation. And it certainly doesn't show that legislators passing laws have any qualifications on any legislation, heath care or otherwise.

I'm relatively certain Kobie's point was to try to discredit him just because Kobie doesn't like what he says.
 
Well, here's part of what he said: " that doesn't make him any more qualified to comment on legislation".

...in response to the notion that being a surgeon automatically does.

That doesn't show why he is not qualified to comment on legislation. And it certainly doesn't show that legislators passing laws have any qualifications on any legislation, heath care or otherwise.

It's less about what qualifies him and more about what disqualifies him, and what specifically disqualifies him is his ignorant and facile statement that "Obamacare is the worst thing to happen since slavery."

Let's go back to that Neil DeGrass/mechanic analogy: you bring your car to him because, after all, the dude is an astrophysicist and has an IQ of 600. But...whoops!...all the guy has studied up on is astrophysics and he leaves your car in worse shape than when you brought it to him. All you wanted was an oil change and yet somehow your car has ended up with the entire engine block removed piece by piece and he has no idea how to put it back together. If, after observing this, are you going to insist he's qualified to fix cars because he's an astrophysicist with an IQ of 600?
 
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...in response to the notion that being a surgeon automatically does.



It's less about what qualifies him and more about what disqualifies him, and what specifically disqualifies him is his ignorant and facile statement that "Obamacare is the worst thing to happen since slavery."

Let's go back to that Neil DeGrass/mechanic analogy: you bring your car to him because, after all, the dude is an astrophysicist and has an IQ of 600. But...whoops!...all the guy has studied up on is astrophysics and he leaves your car in worse shape than when you brought it to him. All you wanted was an oil change and yet somehow your car has ended up with the entire engine block removed piece by piece and he has no idea how to put it back together. If, after observing this, are you going to insist he's qualified to fix cars because he's an astrophysicist with an IQ of 600?

In that case, Id say I screwed up by not telling the man what I wanted done to my car. Plus I'd find it hard to believe a man with a 600 IQ could manage to disassemble a car engine but couldn't figure out how to put it back together. Guys with way lower IQ's manage to figure it out all the time. And at this point I'll have to say that Neil DeGrass needs to find something else to talk about as he's clueless about how mechanics learn things.
 
And at this point I'll have to say that Neil DeGrass needs to find something else to talk about as he's clueless about how mechanics learn things.

And that...is the whole point.
 
And that...is the whole point.

What? That Neil DeGrass doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground about mechanics?

That has nothing to do with Dr Carson.
 
What? That Neil DeGrass doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground about mechanics?

That has nothing to do with Dr Carson.

LOL yes it does. A full-on neurosurgeon disqualifies himself from talking about legislation and insurance by making a comment that's less informed than a junior highschooler, and an astrophysicist disqualifies himself by completely bullocksing the repair of a car.

Same thing.

Dude, you had the point. You had it! And you just...let it slip away.
 
LOL yes it does. A full-on neurosurgeon disqualifies himself from talking about legislation and insurance by making a comment that's less informed than a junior highschooler, and an astrophysicist disqualifies himself by completely bullocksing the repair of a car.

Same thing.

Dude, you had the point. You had it! And you just...let it slip away.

That would be true if Dr Carson was less informed than a "junior highschooler". But he is not. Obamadon'tcare requires everyone to be under the control of the government. There is no escaping it.

Now DeGrass, he needs to stick to something else. He can't see the forest for all the trees at least when it comes to auto repair.

And just what are the "qualifications" that allows someone to discuss legislation?
 
That would be true if Dr Carson was less informed than a "junior highschooler". But he is not. Obamadon'tcare requires everyone to be under the control of the government. There is no escaping it.

Now DeGrass, he needs to stick to something else. He can't see the forest for all the trees at least when it comes to auto repair.

And just what are the "qualifications" that allows someone to discuss legislation?

 
Do you have faith in those?

If you're asking if I believe in any conspiracy theories, then the answer is yes. I'm no different than anyone else considering the prevalence of conspiracies.
 
...in response to the notion that being a surgeon automatically does.

While pediatric neurosurgery may not be combustion engine engineering, I am pretty sure that the principle of how an engine works is not beyond the comprehension of a man of that intellect. But I think that Kobie, and now you are conflating the two, political opinion, and political science.

The fact of whether Dr. Carson's political opinion of O-care resonates with average people scares you O-care supporters to death...For the last three years, all those of us who oppose over arching government like this have been saying is that it's too big, it won't work, and you supporters have been denying, mocking, spewing vitriol, name calling, and worse. The law was specifically written to take effect in steps, purposely to have the goodies roll out first, (for election purposes if you ask me) and the things coming out now in terms of people kicked off their plans, the four levels of plans being offered are prohibitively high, and can only be afforded if you make under a certain amount of money thereby qualifying for some "subsidy" from big brother, etc.

Now you want to come back when a doctor, and brain surgeon who is at the end of his spectacular career with Johns Hopkins, eyes a political career, and uses hyperbole you don't like....Well, too bad....

It's less about what qualifies him and more about what disqualifies him, and what specifically disqualifies him is his ignorant and facile statement that "Obamacare is the worst thing to happen since slavery."

Oh please, spare us....the O-care left has been hiding behind the use of the 'racism' charge since day one of General O's installation as POTUS. Now you have an intellectually accomplished, highly educated black man eyeing politics, and it's not from the liberal plantation, but rather from the conservative side, so, that simply won't do for most liberals...So, you can't call him 'Uncle Tom' like others, you can't pelt him with Oreo cookies at a speech like others, at least not at the moment, maybe if he keeps moving forward in the political world that will come, but now all you have is feigned outrage that he used rhetoric to describe what this law will ultimately do in his opinion to the nation, and it drives you crazy, so you attack his ability, credentials, qualifications to even speak to the subject....pathetic.

For the moment people we have a 1st amendment to our constitution, and that allows us our own opinions, and the ability, no, the right to express that opinion whether you like it or not. You know what, maybe if O-supporters didn't reach into the racist grab bag so quickly, so often, when this President, and administration so often displays incompetence, or worse to cover for it, now want's everyone to believe that and accomplished neurosurgeon, maybe one of the best in the country, is not capable, or qualified to express a political opinion because it uses rhetoric, that with the tables turned the progressive left would have no problem using? Give us all a break would ya?
 
While pediatric neurosurgery may not be combustion engine engineering, I am pretty sure that the principle of how an engine works is not beyond the comprehension of a man of that intellect. But I think that Kobie, and now you are conflating the two, political opinion, and political science.

The fact of whether Dr. Carson's political opinion of O-care resonates with average people scares you O-care supporters to death...For the last three years, all those of us who oppose over arching government like this have been saying is that it's too big, it won't work, and you supporters have been denying, mocking, spewing vitriol, name calling, and worse. The law was specifically written to take effect in steps, purposely to have the goodies roll out first, (for election purposes if you ask me) and the things coming out now in terms of people kicked off their plans, the four levels of plans being offered are prohibitively high, and can only be afforded if you make under a certain amount of money thereby qualifying for some "subsidy" from big brother, etc.

Now you want to come back when a doctor, and brain surgeon who is at the end of his spectacular career with Johns Hopkins, eyes a political career, and uses hyperbole you don't like....Well, too bad....



Oh please, spare us....the O-care left has been hiding behind the use of the 'racism' charge since day one of General O's installation as POTUS. Now you have an intellectually accomplished, highly educated black man eyeing politics, and it's not from the liberal plantation, but rather from the conservative side, so, that simply won't do for most liberals...So, you can't call him 'Uncle Tom' like others, you can't pelt him with Oreo cookies at a speech like others, at least not at the moment, maybe if he keeps moving forward in the political world that will come, but now all you have is feigned outrage that he used rhetoric to describe what this law will ultimately do in his opinion to the nation, and it drives you crazy, so you attack his ability, credentials, qualifications to even speak to the subject....pathetic.

For the moment people we have a 1st amendment to our constitution, and that allows us our own opinions, and the ability, no, the right to express that opinion whether you like it or not. You know what, maybe if O-supporters didn't reach into the racist grab bag so quickly, so often, when this President, and administration so often displays incompetence, or worse to cover for it, now want's everyone to believe that and accomplished neurosurgeon, maybe one of the best in the country, is not capable, or qualified to express a political opinion because it uses rhetoric, that with the tables turned the progressive left would have no problem using? Give us all a break would ya?

Holy rant, Batman. You forgot to throw in the Kennedy assassination, Benghazi and kids with their big baggy jeans and their loud rap music.
 
Holy rant, Batman. You forgot to throw in the Kennedy assassination, Benghazi and kids with their big baggy jeans and their loud rap music.

I notice there isn't one thing in this response from you designed to coherently discuss what I said....And instead a really poor attempt in dismissing it without even reading it....Way to go.
 
I notice there isn't one thing in this response from you designed to coherently discuss what I said....And instead a really poor attempt in dismissing it without even reading it....Way to go.

That's okay, because there was nothing coherent in your rant whatsoever.
 
That's okay, because there was nothing coherent in your rant whatsoever.

So you can't respond....I accept your surrender...You'd have done better to just leave it alone Cardinal....You've got nothing.
 
Oh please, spare us....the O-care left has been hiding behind the use of the 'racism' charge since day one of General O's installation as POTUS. Now you have an intellectually accomplished, highly educated black man eyeing politics, and it's not from the liberal plantation, but rather from the conservative side, so, that simply won't do for most liberals...So, you can't call him 'Uncle Tom' like others, you can't pelt him with Oreo cookies at a speech like others, at least not at the moment, maybe if he keeps moving forward in the political world that will come, but now all you have is feigned outrage that he used rhetoric to describe what this law will ultimately do in his opinion to the nation, and it drives you crazy, so you attack his ability, credentials, qualifications to even speak to the subject....pathetic.

I didn't see Cardinal play the race card, but I guess arguing against it is all you've got.

Race aside, comparing Obamacare to slavery is pretty weak. It's almost as weak as "He's Hitler!" "He's Stalin!" and now "He's Neville Chamberlain!" What's next - Idi Amin?
 
I didn't see Cardinal play the race card, but I guess arguing against it is all you've got.

Race aside, comparing Obamacare to slavery is pretty weak. It's almost as weak as "He's Hitler!" "He's Stalin!" and now "He's Neville Chamberlain!" What's next - Idi Amin?

You didn't see me attack Dr. Carson's abilities as a neurosurgeon or his right to freedom of speech either, but on Planet J-mac that's no reason not to say I did anyway.
 
I didn't see Cardinal play the race card, but I guess arguing against it is all you've got.

Race aside, comparing Obamacare to slavery is pretty weak. It's almost as weak as "He's Hitler!" "He's Stalin!" and now "He's Neville Chamberlain!" What's next - Idi Amin?

Well, I didn't say that Cardinal played the race card in this instance, only that generally speaking that is the "go to" in addressing opposition to anything O does.

And comparing another entitlement to slavery is spot on IMHO. It is what the game book for liberal politics has done for over 50 years now. Welfare, SNAP, Community Orgs., now this....All designed to give away 'free stuff' in the hopes of locking down votes for democrats....

"The federal website that enrolls Americans in ObamaCare also asks applicants if they want to register to vote, raising questions about why the Obama administration would further complicate an already crash-prone website."

Crash-prone ObamaCare site also includes voter registration option | Fox News


This is classic Cloward/Piven from the jump.
 
You didn't see me attack Dr. Carson's abilities as a neurosurgeon or his right to freedom of speech either, but on Planet J-mac that's no reason not to say I did anyway.

Oh, but you did....Right here...

A full-on neurosurgeon disqualifies himself from talking about legislation and insurance by making a comment that's less informed than a junior highschooler...

Your opinion on whether or not his comment comparing O-care to slavery was dumb in your eyes is not the question, after all who cares what you think about it? Right?

But you are making the point that because you think it was a dumb analogy, that "disqualifies" him from saying it all because you don't agree with it...

And if you read my post with honesty, and clarity instead of just shutting down and trying to summarily dismiss it, you'd have seen I was speaking in the general....But I don't expect much from O-supporters these days...:shrug:
 
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