Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

ItAin'tFree said:

Heck no. It's a line of people that had little chance of taking care of themselves thanks to FDR's government programs.

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Oy vey.... :roll:

The trolling and the ignorance are indistinguishable now.

ItAin'tFree said:

In which case you will still fall under the requirements of Obamadon'tcare. You have to toe their line regardless.

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Just like the rest of the perks enjoyed in modern society. You don't technically have to work to enjoy the benefits of living in a technologically and culturally advanced (historically speaking) society, such as well maintained roads, schools, clean drinking water, sanitation, medicine, etc. It's not the way I'd choose to live, personally, but the choice is there.

Gaugingcatenate said:

From the article: “Vladimir Lenin, one of the fathers of socialism and communism, said that socialized medicine is the keystone to the establishment of a socialist state,”...

"The goal of socialism is communism."
Vladimir Lenin

Do we know communism, in the real world and outside of just theory, to be anything but slavery?

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Yeah, I saw that. Like I said, a mere extension of the ridiculous hyperbole contained in the title.

Cardinal said:

Yeah, I saw that. Like I said, a mere extension of the ridiculous hyperbole contained in the title.

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Well, seeing as you have little, if any, proven credibility [ what are your credentials to be considered so?] as qualified or one considered to be expert/knowledgeable in such...let me guess, we are just supposed to just take your word for it, eh?

Not much of a debating technique... would you possibly deign to prove something wrong, or illogical or something besides just saying its wrong...I mean, only if you want to be taken seriously.

Cardinal said:

Just like the rest of the perks enjoyed in modern society. You don't technically have to work to enjoy the benefits of living in a technologically and culturally advanced (historically speaking) society, such as well maintained roads, schools, clean drinking water, sanitation, medicine, etc. It's not the way I'd choose to live, personally, but the choice is there.

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People pushing for a redistribution of wealth, government programs and so on, would disagree strongly with you. They would think the word "technically" has to go. They think they have a right to something for nothing. Like many of the advocates of Obamadon'tcare.

Conservatives: "We need our own black guy who's woefully inexperienced to be President!"

The raging mindless hard-on continues...

Cardinal said:

Oy vey.... :roll:

The trolling and the ignorance are indistinguishable now.

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No, the "woe" was on people stuck in dire economic times made worse and extended by a government that took money out of the hands of people that could have produced something and created jobs. The very same is happening now with Obamadon'tcare.

Gaugingcatenate said:

Best things about Dr. Carson are that he is super articulate, he is absolutely fearless, he cannot be called a racist credibly and he is, in fact, an actual brain surgeon...so his intellectual abilities are beyond question.

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He is one of, if not the, top Constitutional scholar in this country.

Cardinal said:

I agree. Before 2009 I never had to pay taxes, or pull my car over if a police officer turned on his siren behind me, I never needed permits or licenses for anything...I could do anything I wanted. I was free.

Then Obamacare happened.

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Your false choice fallacy is well noted.

There are levels of freedom. Dr. Carson is suggesting that the line separating acceptable regulation and an over reaching government has been crossed.

rocket88 said:

Conservatives: "We need our own black guy who's woefully inexperienced to be President!"

The raging mindless hard-on continues...

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That's probably about as close as a liberal will ever get to admitting Obama had no business being elected President.

ItAin'tFree said:

No, the "woe" was on people stuck in dire economic times made worse and extended by a government that took money out of the hands of people that could have produced something and created jobs. The very same is happening now with Obamadon'tcare.

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The great lie that has the left so enthralled with Obama is that all of their pain is for a good cause.

His failure is their most selfless success.

ChezC3 said:

Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery « CBS DC

Yes, it is that bad...

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Slavery only targeted one race

Fascist Obamacare targets the entire country

a351 said:

His intellectual abilities pertaining to medicine are beyond question. His political philosophy thus far has proven to be absolutely cartoonish. Not all who are successful in other venues have a firm grasp on political or historical reality. Donald Trump immediately comes to mind.

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What were Obama's intellectual abilities pertaining to HC before he rammed his fascist law down the country's throat?

At least it wasn't Obamacare

Dr. Carson needs to have his hyperbole tumor removed before it spouts more stupidity. The so-cons just love to find a token minority, a token scientist/doctor, etc to try to look diverse. But it never works, because they always get a nut.

ksu_aviator said:

He is one of, if not the, top Constitutional scholar in this country.

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I was not aware of that accolade... but will most asssuredly look into it, thanks.

As is always my model, the astute Reagan Presidential aphorism, trust but verify.

Wiseone said:

At least it wasn't Obamacare

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Funny, all but the first pic are of Democrat policies in action, imagine that, here comes another "winner"....Obutwedontwannacare

Gaugingcatenate said:

I think he might know a thing or two about health care at the very least...far more than the O' so stupid One...

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Yes, but that doesn't make his assessment of the state of our nation accurate.

I've heard this stupid analogy being made by many people - mostly from those who don't like ObamaCare - and I think to myself, "These folks can't be serious!?!"

Slavery held only certain people in bondage due to the color of their skin. Not everyone was held back from having an opportunity to progress in life or within this country because of the color of their skin. So, that's the first problem with Dr. Carson's slavery analogy.

Second, slavery was a socio-economic way of life for country, but only those who lived in the south benefitted the most from it. If you lived in the north, you only benefitted from the indirect revenue the slave trade brought in, i.e., slave imports and subsequent sales (but only by the slave traders and shipping merchants themselves); molasses, rum, tobacco, tea exports. The south benefited from the direct revenues slavery brought in mostly in agriculture, but also in their domestication and in some cases the local sales of slaves. It was the reciprocal earnings from crops that drew the biggest ire from those on the side of pro-slavery. They worried their entire economy (not to mention their entire way of life) would be severely disrupted if slavery were abolished. No slaves, no farming. No slaves, no carriage drivers for wealthy plantation owners. No slaves, no domestic hands to clean their homes, cook their meals, wash their clothes, or babysit their children. And that's just naming those tasks the history books showcase for the typical "house nigga".

To suggest that the health care law is anything like the fight to preserve slavery in any way is so ridiculous even calling such an analogy "ridiculous" doesn't quite explain the ridiculousness of it all. Now, if you want to say this country hasn't had an issue so deeply divide both sides of our political system nor the country so widely, then I can certainly see the argument. But to compare ObamaCare to slavery is just ignorant. No one is oppressing you because you have to have health insurance.

Gaugingcatenate said:

I was not aware of that accolade... but will most asssuredly look into it, thanks.

As is always my model, the astute Reagan Presidential aphorism, trust but verify.

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I don't think it is an official accolade. But it is my opinion based on his speeches.

Gaugingcatenate said:

Well thought and very well put...oops, wrong, my bad.

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It was equal in thought and accuracy to the article in the OP.

Gaugingcatenate said:

Funny, all but the first pic are of Democrat policies in action, imagine that, here comes another "winner"....Obutwedontwannacare

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Not relevant, the OP claims Obama is the worst thing since slavery all I have to do disprove that is show things worse than Obamacare that occurred after slavery. Who was in office means nothing.

Deuce said:

I bet his mommy was basically Hitler for giving him a bed time, too.

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??? unintelligible remark.

ChezC3 said:

Yes, it is that bad...

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No, it isn't that bad and the analogy is quite idiotic. He may be a great surgeon, however, calling Obamacare the worst thing since slavery is quite moronic. What's next, a reference to Hitler? Gimme a break. Obamacare is a lousy law, but it isn't the worst thing since slavery.

Gaugingcatenate said:

From the article: “Vladimir Lenin, one of the fathers of socialism and communism, said that socialized medicine is the keystone to the establishment of a socialist state,”...

"The goal of socialism is communism."
Vladimir Lenin

Do we know communism, in the real world and outside of just theory, to be anything but slavery?

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Medicare is socialized medicine, so if you support Medicare you support slavery?

This is what you're saying?

beefheart said:

Dr. Carson needs to have his hyperbole tumor removed before it spouts more stupidity. The so-cons just love to find a token minority, a token scientist/doctor, etc to try to look diverse. But it never works, because they always get a nut.

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I am trying to put a good handle on just what to call that mini rant of silly notions/positions...would those "thoughts" be classified racists positions or maybe implied-tokenist postions, or diverse-if-you-think-like-I-doisms...or what exactly?

While willingly conceding that you may genuinely have more familiarity with true nuts, I think most reasoning folk would be hard put to call Dr. Carson a nut... if that were so, better get your blind donkeys to start rutting around for one anywhere near as effective...

Gaugingcatenate said:

I am trying to put a good handle on just what to call that mini rant of silly notions/positions...would those "thoughts" be classified racists positions or maybe implied-tokenist postions, or diverse-if-you-think-like-I-doisms...or what exactly?

While willingly conceding that you may genuinely have more familiarity with true nuts, I think most reasoning folk would be hard put to call Dr. Carson a nut... if that were so, better get your blind donkeys to start rutting around for one anywhere near as effective...

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Only a nutcase thinks Obamacare is the "worst thing since slavery."