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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Every 4 years, Republicans get behind some crazy old black man and postulate him as the voice of reason. They have taken well to the Magical Negro skit. Anybody remember Herman Cain? Allan Keyes? Bravo should do a "Where Are They Now?: Crazy Black Republican Edition"

Yes and only a "crazy black" could be republican. Racist.
 
Your first one is supposition. Meaningless without evidence. And indicative of the poor thought process many use when assess Obama.

The second one, Trayvon, is mindless. Obama was quite appropriate and yet another sign of poor thinking associated with those criticizing Obama.

So no, nothing up there is in any way evidence of Obama's racism.
Uh, read the book by the procecutor who was handling the case, name is Christian Adams, may want to pick up his book that had two chapters on the case...book's name is Injustice. No supposition at all...matter of fact read the rest of the book, will blow you away with the reverse racism going on under this administration. Talk about lazy and blind, folks on your side just cannot see the bright blinking warning beacon, not with your minds in such a deeply oblivious fog.

What the hell are you talking about he was appropriate on the Trayvon case...?? No case had even been presented before he was likening the thug to being himself as a young man...and then the emotional pull that the poor young thug could have just as well been his son... the president had no business sticking his nose in a state case in Florida much less taking sides, compounding the insult into injury by taking the wrong side...he needs to spend less time on the golf course, opining about such things a Red Skins name change... do your JOB Mr. president... this boobamacare rollout has been a complete disaster with three years to get it right...but I digress...

Voluntary blindness...see no evil, hear no evil if its about your thug-in-chief, eh?
 
Ah! But the CLASS Act didn't force people into the system. It would have been voluntary and worked exactly like the exchanges but had a process where the health benefits couldn't be used for a minimum of 5-years from the date of enrollment. Think of it as a dual-Roth IRA/cash-value insurance plan then it begins to make sense. Still, the 5-yr buy-in was really the only part of the plan I didn't like. Of course, there's nothing saying that credits couldn't have been provided to help off-set the cost same as what ObamaCare now offers for a limited time.

In any case, it would have been preferable to what we have now, IMO.

Note: After re-reading my post as quoted above, I mistakenly made a broad generality. I didn't mean to infer that "everyone" would be mandated to buy into the CLASS Act insurance program, only those who enrolled in the program. Just wanted to clear that up.
I'm not familiar with the Class act proposal so I have no further comment.
 
Nonetheless, none of this changes the absurdity of what Dr. Carson said. There's no rational equivalent of slavery to health care - mandatory purchase of such or otherwise. No one was forced to buy a slave, but even when one did make such a purchase the only person who was oppressed was (wait for it....) THE SLAVE! That's what makes Dr. Carson's comment so stupid!!!

An interesting observation that can be somewhat compared to today's situation. A lot of slaves didn't know any better and were content to have their master provide for them and make decisions for them. They accepted the terms and conditions by choice or force. A lot of slaves knew better and were anything but content to have his master provide and make decisions for him. They did not accept being forced to accept those terms and conditions and ran off or rebelled. In either case, the slave was oppressed and he was prevented from making decisions in his own best interest unless he freed himself from the shackles of forced behavior.

Along comes Obamadon'tcare. The government is not forced to mandate the terms and conditions of a persons health care but it did and now it's subjects are forced to accept them. Does that ring a bell? It should. But the very second someone objects to an increasingly all powerful government that forces it's subjects by mandates they are called "crazy", "stupid", "lunatics" and such by those in favor of people being forced to comply with it's mandates.

Dr. Carson hit the nail on the head with his remarks.
 
I'm afraid that doesn't fit the reality. No where has he step so far as to warrant that conclusion. Nothing submitted so far shows what you claim. Is it possible that your prejudice colors what you see? I'm only asking, as the reality doesn't match what you've written.

Since when is it acceptable for the President of the United States to make groundless comments on city-level crimes before investigations are complete and before the courts have had time to properly handle them? He's been given a free pass in the media for the comments he made regarding the police in the case of his professor friend and his TM comments. While it would be hard to argue that he doesn't percieve those situations through a lense which emphasized race, his main problem is speaking about things which he doesn't understand or have all the facts. For a race-neutral example, look up his comments on sexual assault in the military and the unlawful command influence they had. Most people have some sort of bias, but we are very capable at correcting for it when given the opportunity. Obama has had problems with not giving himself the time/making the effort to correct his own biased perceptions.

If the reality doesn't match my perceptions, I'd love it if you elucidated how for me so that I might correct them.
 
So to spare the details lets boil this down. You advocate one form of usurpation of labor for another larger form, and the only difference is that the new usurpation comes with new strings attached, with no opt out. No thanks.

Aren't all taxes "usurpation of labor" by your definition?

And, actually, if you want a smaller "usurpation of labor," you should support single-payer or some other form of universal health care. Virtually every country with such a system spends fewer tax dollars per person than we do. That's right, we actually spend more taxes on health care than Canada. And you still have to pay insurance premiums on top of that!

So if you hate taxes so much, let's reduce the need for them.
 
Yes and only a "crazy black" could be republican. Racist.

Nobody said that, you just made that assumption. Which makes you the racist for having that thought!

See, what was actually being said is that the Republicans keep picking crazy black men to show off. If you guys would pick a sane person they wouldn't be saying that. Of course, black or white, the GOP seems to have a lot of crazies in the primary every time.
 
Nobody said that, you just made that assumption. Which makes you the racist for having that thought!

See, what was actually being said is that the Republicans keep picking crazy black men to show off. If you guys would pick a sane person they wouldn't be saying that. Of course, black or white, the GOP seems to have a lot of crazies in the primary every time.

The Democrat tradition continues.
 
Uh, read the book by the procecutor who was handling the case, name is Christian Adams, may want to pick up his book that had two chapters on the case...book's name is Injustice. No supposition at all...matter of fact read the rest of the book, will blow you away with the reverse racism going on under this administration. Talk about lazy and blind, folks on your side just cannot see the bright blinking warning beacon, not with your minds in such a deeply oblivious fog.

What the hell are you talking about he was appropriate on the Trayvon case...?? No case had even been presented before he was likening the thug to being himself as a young man...and then the emotional pull that the poor young thug could have just as well been his son... the president had no business sticking his nose in a state case in Florida much less taking sides, compounding the insult into injury by taking the wrong side...he needs to spend less time on the golf course, opining about such things a Red Skins name change... do your JOB Mr. president... this boobamacare rollout has been a complete disaster with three years to get it right...but I digress...

Voluntary blindness...see no evil, hear no evil if its about your thug-in-chief, eh?

That would assume I accept the premise. I really don't. I actually live in this world, and that really isn't happening. Sorry.
 
Since when is it acceptable for the President of the United States to make groundless comments on city-level crimes before investigations are complete and before the courts have had time to properly handle them? He's been given a free pass in the media for the comments he made regarding the police in the case of his professor friend and his TM comments. While it would be hard to argue that he doesn't percieve those situations through a lense which emphasized race, his main problem is speaking about things which he doesn't understand or have all the facts. For a race-neutral example, look up his comments on sexual assault in the military and the unlawful command influence they had. Most people have some sort of bias, but we are very capable at correcting for it when given the opportunity. Obama has had problems with not giving himself the time/making the effort to correct his own biased perceptions.

If the reality doesn't match my perceptions, I'd love it if you elucidated how for me so that I might correct them.

he didn't make any groundless comments. Some misunderstood the comments and took them in the most hyperbolic way possible. I listen to all of it then, read the comments, and it takes a lot to make those comments into what you're presenting. There really wasn't anything there. He spoke like any farther would speak.
 
I seem to remember a certain other president injecting himself into a situation that, by the standards to which conservatives are holding Obama, was none of his damn business.



Presidents routinely opine on the events of the times. But, like many other things, it only pisses off conservatives when Obama does it, because Obama Derangement Syndrome is so pervasive that the basic premise has become, "If Obama's doing it, it must be wrong."
 
Nobody said that, you just made that assumption. Which makes you the racist for having that thought!

See, what was actually being said is that the Republicans keep picking crazy black men to show off. If you guys would pick a sane person they wouldn't be saying that. Of course, black or white, the GOP seems to have a lot of crazies in the primary every time.

So if you disagree with someone they are crazy? Got it. LOL.
 
That would assume I accept the premise. I really don't. I actually live in this world, and that really isn't happening. Sorry.
Yeah, just how in the world ever would the actual prosecutor actually prosecuting the case know anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, about the case, eh?

Do you know how absolutely stupid that position sounds to the rest of us? To heck with how it sounds, that position is just a flat out completely void of one shred of sense.

Does go towards, just throw this one in the hugh pile with all the others, proving that you folks on that side are blinded and do not want to see... that's it...so LIED TO and want to be LIED TO.

Got it. ;)
 
I guess I will start by simply answering your question: No, my psychology books and background do not tell me that individuals may only be an expert in one field.

By your own system of judgement, by what merit or expertise are you able to legitimately call bull**** on Dr. Carson's statements on Obamacare and slavery? Unless you are an expert in both, I don't see how your remarks meet your own evaluation standards.

Well, unless you are an expert in bull****. In that case, you'd have me.

Nice try, but being a brain surgeon isn't a free ticket to expertise in every other department. Listening to his hyperbole on healthcare with the tag line "He's a brain surgeon!" sounds a little too similar to those anti-flu vitamin C tablets sold in supermarkets that have the words "invented by a school teacher!" written on the box. It sounds kind of credible for a second until you realize it means nothing.
 
Nice try, but being a brain surgeon isn't a free ticket to expertise in every other department. Listening to his hyperbole on healthcare with the tag line "He's a brain surgeon!" sounds a little too similar to those anti-flu vitamin C tablets sold in supermarkets that have the words "invented by a school teacher!" written on the box. It sounds kind of credible for a second until you realize it means nothing.

You'd trust a Community Organizer" though, huh?

How does his biography compare with Obama's? Or Hillary's for that matter. Ben Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Left will start demonizing everyone just in case one of them might be a Presidential candidates. That's why you get stuck with a jackass like Barrack Obama.
 
You'd trust a Community Organizer" though, huh?

How does his biography compare with Obama's? Or Hillary's for that matter. Ben Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Left will start demonizing everyone just in case one of them might be a Presidential candidates. That's why you get stuck with a jackass like Barrack Obama.

So Dr. Carson must have stayed at a Holiday Inn because now you think he is an authority on EVERYTHING.
 
So Dr. Carson must have stayed at a Holiday Inn because now you think he is an authority on EVERYTHING.

Your post is juvenile and not related to anything said. Try not to be a leftist for 24 hours and it will be the best day of your life.
 
Your post is juvenile and not related to anything said. Try not to be a leftist for 24 hours and it will be the best day of your life.

Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you with your puckering up to Dr. Carson's ass. Care to comment to what I said instead of mumble?
 
Your post is juvenile and not related to anything said. Try not to be a leftist for 24 hours and it will be the best day of your life.

Try not being a wannabe extremist right wing tea party wannabe for 24 hours and you might find out you don't have to be a bigoted, narrow minded, hateful, spiteful, confused... (word I can't say).
 
An interesting observation that can be somewhat compared to today's situation. A lot of slaves didn't know any better and were content to have their master provide for them and make decisions for them. They accepted the terms and conditions by choice or force. A lot of slaves knew better and were anything but content to have his master provide and make decisions for him. They did not accept being forced to accept those terms and conditions and ran off or rebelled. In either case, the slave was oppressed and he was prevented from making decisions in his own best interest unless he freed himself from the shackles of forced behavior.

Along comes Obamadon'tcare. The government is not forced to mandate the terms and conditions of a persons health care but it did and now it's subjects are forced to accept them. Does that ring a bell? It should. But the very second someone objects to an increasingly all powerful government that forces it's subjects by mandates they are called "crazy", "stupid", "lunatics" and such by those in favor of people being forced to comply with it's mandates.

Dr. Carson hit the nail on the head with his remarks.

I can accept your analogy from the perspective of someone who is held in bondage wanting to break free -vs- those who just settle for forced servitude. But again, this is why I'd much rather have had the CLASS Act over what we have now.

But I'd never suggest that a slave "knew better". Fear and ignorance ruled them, not knowledge. Thus, the risks for freedom for some was too great just as was the odds of gaining said freedom. Therefore, "staying put" was preferable to any alternative including death.
 
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Yeah, just how in the world ever would the actual prosecutor actually prosecuting the case know anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, about the case, eh?

Do you know how absolutely stupid that position sounds to the rest of us? To heck with how it sounds, that position is just a flat out completely void of one shred of sense.

Does go towards, just throw this one in the hugh pile with all the others, proving that you folks on that side are blinded and do not want to see... that's it...so LIED TO and want to be LIED TO.

Got it. ;)

One case does not a fanasty real. You have to show large numbers. You can't. Neither can he.
 
The Democrat tradition continues.

I suppose you also think it's automatically sexist to criticize Palin. :lamo

For all you guys whine about "playing the race card," here you are doing that and don't seem to even realize it.
 
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