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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

It is however true. Hilter did impose an exit tax on the Jews.

Hitler was a vegetarian, was an artist, and liked dogs. He also breathed air, ate food, and was male. He had hair on his face and head and a mustache. None of which diminishes that fact that you've Godwin'ed your way to inanity.
 
His intellectual abilities pertaining to medicine are beyond question. His political philosophy thus far has proven to be absolutely cartoonish. Not all who are successful in other venues have a firm grasp on political or historical reality. Donald Trump immediately comes to mind.

We're talking about healthcare. Sorry but he's more expert than anyone in Congress. Thanks for playing.
 
Jury is out on that---he's clearly not a gun nut, but he is a homophobe and the comment about ACA being akin to slavery is off the hook.
You have no proof he is a homophobe...not unless you think that anybody who believes that marriage is only to be between one man an one woman, the traditional marriage, is a homophobe... and that those who want to change that should just be allowed because they think its right...

If you are against traditional marriage that makes you a heterophobe, does it?
 
You have no proof he is a homophobe...not unless you think that anybody who believes that marriage is only to be between one man an one woman, the traditional marriage, is a homophobe... and that those who want to change that should just be allowed because they think its right...

If you are against traditional marriage that makes you a heterophobe, does it?

He compared homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia. That's not a very intelligent viewpoint, especially coming from a doctor who should know better.
 
Hitler was a vegetarian, was an artist, and liked dogs. He also breathed air, ate food, and was male. He had hair on his face and head and a mustache. None of which diminishes that fact that you've Godwin'ed your way to inanity.

I didn't bring up Hitler, but what apst said is true. Hitler used the exit tax to disincentive Jews from leaving Germany. The reason the United States has an exit tax is to disincentive the wealthy from leaving the country.
 
We're talking about healthcare. Sorry but he's more expert than anyone in Congress. Thanks for playing.
Which even if true, fails to validate the statement that Carson made. If Robert Gates or Leon Panetta labeled the sequester cuts endured by the Military as the worst event since Slavery, they'd be wrong as well, no matter their expertise.
 
Which even if true, fails to validate the statement that Carson made. If Robert Gates or Leon Panetta labeled the sequester cuts endured by the Military as the worst event since Slavery, they'd be wrong as well, no matter their expertise.

Correct, they would be. But cutting the military budget doesn't force citizens to do anything. Unlike Obamadon'tcare.
 
Which even if true, fails to validate the statement that Carson made. If Robert Gates or Leon Panetta labeled the sequester cuts endured by the Military as the worst event since Slavery, they'd be wrong as well, no matter their expertise.

Except that sequester cuts don't have anything in common with slavery while some of the provisions of the ACA are involuntary servitude.
 
Except that sequester cuts don't have anything in common with slavery while some of the provisions of the ACA are involuntary servitude.

Absolutely nothing about the ACA is remotely comparable with slavery. I know it's a big thing among libertarians to compare anything compulsory to "slavery," but all that serves to do is make you look like you lack even a modicum of perspective.
 
Except that sequester cuts don't have anything in common with slavery while some of the provisions of the ACA are involuntary servitude.
Carson's comment, while stupid, didn't directly compare the ACA to Slavery, but rather labeled it the worst thing since. My analogy was pointing out the absurdity of excusing stupid comments based on experience within one's field alone.
 
That's a good question and I'm sorry that I don't have a good answer.

But guess what - I do agree that it does seem totally unfair.

Like a lot of things in life.

That seems like a strange viewpoint to have towards something in the governments control to resolve. The current attitude many in government have towards immigration is to make it easier to get in and yet harder to get out. In 2008 they revised the laws to make the exit tax apply to more Americans and yet the same people that voted for that want to give amnesty to people that came here illegally. If you were going to pick one of the two position what would be your motivation to pick amnesty for law breakers over allowing citizens to leave your country willingly?
 
That's probably about as close as a liberal will ever get to admitting Obama had no business being elected President.

He wasn't the best choice in the primaries.

Electing someone else that's completely inexperienced isn't the answer.
 
He wasn't the best choice in the primaries.

Electing someone else that's completely inexperienced isn't the answer.

Nobody is experienced at being President until they are elected President.
 
Nobody is experienced at being President until they are elected President.

Yes, but there's a point at which you've gotta wonder why President should be the very first elective office a person gets.

The guy's got less foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin. He can't even see Russia from his state.
 
Hey, if a log splitter turned attorney could do it, if a haberdasher could, if a peanut farmer, if a B actor could become a great one, if a community organizer can, if a former major league team owner/ oil speculator can do it... well, lets just say the future remains to be seen and I would guess your predictions seem premature at best...

...and I think we can let it go at that, for now...;)

But each and every one of those people held elected office before becoming President. Carter, Reagan, and Bush had been Governor. Lincoln, Truman and Obama had all been in Congress. Granted, Lincoln was a one-term representative 20 years before becoming President, but he was in Congress.
 
Yes, but there's a point at which you've gotta wonder why President should be the very first elective office a person gets.

It wasn't. The last president who hadn't served in elected office before being elected president was Eisenhower.

EDIT: Wait, I thought you were talking about Obama, not Carson. My b.

The guy's got less foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin. He can't even see Russia from his state.

I see what you did there.
 
But each and every one of those people held elected office before becoming President. Carter, Reagan, and Bush had been Governor. Lincoln, Truman and Obama had all been in Congress. Granted, Lincoln was a one-term representative 20 years before becoming President, but he was in Congress.

George H.W. Bush's first elected office was Vice President. That, in and of itself, is quite rare.
 
Absolutely nothing about the ACA is remotely comparable with slavery. I know it's a big thing among libertarians to compare anything compulsory to "slavery," but all that serves to do is make you look like you lack even a modicum of perspective.

Yes, I have talked to you about this before and from what I remember you lacked any sort of argument.
 
He compared homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia. That's not a very intelligent viewpoint, especially coming from a doctor who should know better.
Only in the fact that they are all deviant behaviors and they would all like to be accepted... and that we are not going to allow that if we can stop it...that is not homophobia...that is ordered society affirming.

Get your nuances correct guys and gals on that side.
 
Median Ice?



What makes you think the government can tell people how to live their lives and somehow not violate their rights?

Medicine.

no one is telling anyone how to live their lives. You're being hyperbolic again.
 
But each and every one of those people held elected office before becoming President. Carter, Reagan, and Bush had been Governor. Lincoln, Truman and Obama had all been in Congress. Granted, Lincoln was a one-term representative 20 years before becoming President, but he was in Congress.
And so your point is that only previously elected people are qualified to hold office... seems like many of our previously elected presidents have been pretty poor at governing once in, our current high office holder a case in point.

And Dr. Carson has time... so it is anyone's guess.
 
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