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Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

again what is the big deal about a two dollar increase? is it the difference between making a profit or going bankrupt?

The big deal is businesses have to pay that increase and those costs are passed on to the consumers. If the business cannot make the money to pay those salaries they are going to move out of state. You see it is more than a $2 increase because that affects benefits as well. Anything that drives up individual business costs is going to affect business growth and development. California already has among the highest taxes in the nation thus has businesses fleeing. This will accelerate this exodus.
 
It's also a stronghold of "grassroots conservatism." Elsewhere in the country, GOP moderates (1) are losing their attractiveness to independents and centrists, thus setting up their Democratic opponents for electoral victories and (2) going to lose their running tickets to Tea Party candidates who can't win in swing districts with large numbers of independents and centrists, thus setting up their Democratic opponents for electoral victories. To put it another way, the GOP is in peril in those districts that are most reflective of the national demographics -- some of which exist, and some of which they currently hold.

That is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point, the only question remains is whether the GOP will win the war of attrition to save their House Majority. But they are going to lose seats.

Is that what your crystal ball is telling you these days or is it coming from those voices you keep hearing? :lamo There's a lot of red state Democrats up for re-election in 2014, and there are two issues that are sticking in the crawl of the majority in these red states. That being Obamacare and gun control legislation being pushed by the left. These red state Democrats are toast. There are a total of 21 US Senate seats up for re-election in 2014 that are currently held by Democrats, with more than half of those being vulnerable. These seats were won during the 2008 election when the big O won the election promising hope and change, well according to the recent polls, only a little over a third of the people still believe in the hope and change crap. So there are no coat tails for these bozos to ride on. While the Republicans are defending 14 seats in mostly conservative states, Democrats are defending a mixture of liberal, moderate, and conservative seats. The GOP would only need to swing 6 seats to take control of the US Senate. So maybe you should start questioning those voices you are listening to or take that crystal ball in for service. :lol:
 
Is that what your crystal ball is telling you these days or is it coming from those voices you keep hearing? :lamo There's a lot of red state Democrats up for re-election in 2014, and there are two issues that are sticking in the crawl of the majority in these red states. That being Obamacare and gun control legislation being pushed by the left. These red state Democrats are toast. There are a total of 21 US Senate seats up for re-election in 2014 that are currently held by Democrats, with more than half of those being vulnerable. These seats were won during the 2008 election when the big O won the election promising hope and change, well according to the recent polls, only a little over a third of the people still believe in the hope and change crap. So there are no coat tails for these bozos to ride on. While the Republicans are defending 14 seats in mostly conservative states, Democrats are defending a mixture of liberal, moderate, and conservative seats. The GOP would only need to swing 6 seats to take control of the US Senate. So maybe you should start questioning those voices you are listening to or take that crystal ball in for service. :lol:

you do know this is similar to the predictions made in 2010 and 2012 about the republicans taking the senate. guess what happened?

John Tester, democratic senator from montana, a red state dem, won reelection in 2012.

Claire Mccaskill, democratic senator from Missouri, won relection in 2012.

harry reid, the democratic senate majority leader and arguably the most hated senator in washington, won reelction in navada during the 2010 wave election.

need i go on?
 
Its good to see more people in the U.S. "get it" than don't.



At least these liberal college kids are starting to 'get it'.

And it would seem that as many states still have 0 people registered, and the government 'software' is still not working, so people realize a 'delay' would have been a good idea... perhaps more and more are realizing it was the left's refusal to go with a year delay that really 'shut down' things. While they talk of 'negotiating' and 'compromise', they do not have a history of either.
 
Nonsense figure. Per capita California has a much higher unemployment figure than Texas. CA=8.9, TX=6.4.

Unemployment Rates for States

Not only that California has a labor force of 18.6 million, 16.9 million working, and 1.6 million unemployed. Of that 16.9 million working approximately 2 million are making California minimum wage which is over 10%

Texas has a labor force of 12.8 million, 11.9 million working, and 817k unemployed. Of that 11.9 million working 500,000 make minimum wage which is less than 5%

Brainwashed liberals simply cannot admit that their liberal leadership lies like they do.
 
Not only that California has a labor force of 18.6 million, 16.9 million working, and 1.6 million unemployed. Of that 16.9 million working approximately 2 million are making California minimum wage which is over 10%

Texas has a labor force of 12.8 million, 11.9 million working, and 817k unemployed. Of that 11.9 million working 500,000 make minimum wage which is less than 5%

Brainwashed liberals simply cannot admit that their liberal leadership lies like they do.

I've already posted figures from the BLS which prove that TX has a higher rate of people in the workforce making minimum wage or less

minwage_tx_chart1.gif
 
In case you forgot I don't deal with people who report others with the idea of generating infractions. Nor do I let the ignorance of the left go unchallenged. In 2011 the Congress of the United States increased the debt ceiling and the liberal rhetoric then was that the raising the debt ceiling wouldn't increase the debt. Well, guess what, another lie because the debt is much higher today and going higher all because of liberals like you who buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. Yes. let's raise the debt ceiling so we give the Congress more room to spend more. Liberal logic? Bye, Boo.

As I have never, ever reported you, I can only assume this is your effort at avoiding the point.

Tell how the things I mentioned were unsuccessful.
 
I've already posted figures from the BLS which prove that TX has a higher rate of people in the workforce making minimum wage or less

minwage_tx_chart1.gif

Haven't seen an apology yet, hmmm, must have missed it. Obviously you missed the fact that the data you posted reports the FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE which California doesn't pay. You will notice that NY isn't listed either but my bet is that you have a lot of people in your state making NY minimum wage. What percentage of your work force makes NY minimum wage? I understand how you could get confused because you get confused on so many issues. It is easy for the left to brainwash people like you. Let's see if you can figure out which is better:

500,000 making a minimum wage of $7.25 which is less than 5% of the employment number in a low tax state like TX

OR

2 million making the California Minimum wage of $8 an hours which is over 10% of the employment number in a high tax, high cost of living state?

Hmmm, wonder which state I would choose to live in and where the opportunities are the greatest.

Now I will search for that apology. If I don't find it, I do apologize for responding to you.
 
As I have never, ever reported you, I can only assume this is your effort at avoiding the point.

Tell how the things I mentioned were unsuccessful.

Guess we have a difference of opinion in who reported me as I was told differently. With regard to you my opinion is all that matters. won't be responding to your posts
 
Haven't seen an apology yet, hmmm, must have missed it. Obviously you missed the fact that the data you posted reports the FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE which California doesn't pay. You will notice that NY isn't listed either but my bet is that you have a lot of people in your state making NY minimum wage. What percentage of your work force makes NY minimum wage? I understand how you could get confused because you get confused on so many issues. It is easy for the left to brainwash people like you. Let's see if you can figure out which is better:

500,000 making a minimum wage of $7.25 which is less than 5% of the employment number in a low tax state like TX

OR

2 million making the California Minimum wage of $8 an hours which is over 10% of the employment number in a high tax, high cost of living state?

Hmmm, wonder which state I would choose to live in and where the opportunities are the greatest.

Now I will search for that apology. If I don't find it, I do apologize for responding to you.

Your lies have been debunked. Repeating them won't make them true
 
Guess we have a difference of opinion in who reported me as I was told differently. With regard to you my opinion is all that matters. won't be responding to your posts

You also said you won't be responding to my posts, but that was a lie also
 
The druggies are winning

Such a great investment of waste in money and lives. Must make you feel proud. An example of faulty conservatism using big government.
 
At least these liberal college kids are starting to 'get it'.

And it would seem that as many states still have 0 people registered, and the government 'software' is still not working, so people realize a 'delay' would have been a good idea... perhaps more and more are realizing it was the left's refusal to go with a year delay that really 'shut down' things. While they talk of 'negotiating' and 'compromise', they do not have a history of either.

Thats pretty damn surprising. Glad they're paying some attention, this demographic is the one that gets screwed over the most by Obamacare.
 
you do know this is similar to the predictions made in 2010 and 2012 about the republicans taking the senate. guess what happened?

John Tester, democratic senator from montana, a red state dem, won reelection in 2012.

Claire Mccaskill, democratic senator from Missouri, won relection in 2012.

harry reid, the democratic senate majority leader and arguably the most hated senator in washington, won reelction in navada during the 2010 wave election.

need i go on?

Tester isn't one that will be a concern this time. Tester represents a very heavy union based district and was re-elected by them BEFORE they found out the devastation Obamacare would have on their healthcare insurance. But they ain't happy now. And in this PPP poll taken in June of this year had Tester at 48% approval and 43% disapproved.

48% of voters approving of him to 43%
who disapprove. Max Baucus hasn't received any sort of post retirement boost in his poll
numbers- he continues to be easily the least popular politician in the state with only 36%
of voters approving of him to 52% who disapprove.

Yes the author of Obamacare is not running for re-election because the people of his state have shun him for it. It will be interesting if Tester feels the heat from his constituents later on. But one thing for sure Baucus' seat is up for grabs. And what I find very surprising is in this poll it states that Rand Paul is the favorite Republican candidate. Imagine that.... a Tea Party favorite:mrgreen:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MT_628.pdf

Claire McCaskill's re-election was a gift given her by the GOP candidate Aikens who made some comments about rape that not even the majority of pro-lifers agree with and after that the GOP withheld their support for him and scurried to find a write-in in his place. Up to that point McCaskill was trailing in the polls.

Now Harry Reid may have been re-elected but it doesn't seem to appear his name recognition carries much weight. After two years of ole Harry shoving through Obamacare, and major feckless so called stimulus spending, in the 2010 Gubernatorial race in the Nevada general election, Sandoval (R) won 53%-41%, against Democrat Rory Reid, the Clark County Commissioner and son of U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He won every county in the state, and all with a majority except Clark County which Mr. Sandoval won with a plurality. (49%-47%).
It appears ole Harry is planning on running again in 2016, but this time his opponent will be Sandoval. Just three more years till the most despised Senator in all the land according to Gallup, will be sent packing.
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada says he will run for a sixth term in 2016. - latimes.com

You see there are consequences when a political party doesn't listen to the people and when they hollered "we don't want Obamacare" the Democrat Elites said "Piss on you, we do".
 
Tester isn't one that will be a concern this time. Tester represents a very heavy union based district and was re-elected by them BEFORE they found out the devastation Obamacare would have on their healthcare insurance. But they ain't happy now. And in this PPP poll taken in June of this year had Tester at 48% approval and 43% disapproved.



Yes the author of Obamacare is not running for re-election because the people of his state have shun him for it. It will be interesting if Tester feels the heat from his constituents later on. But one thing for sure Baucus' seat is up for grabs. And what I find very surprising is in this poll it states that Rand Paul is the favorite Republican candidate. Imagine that.... a Tea Party favorite:mrgreen:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MT_628.pdf

Claire McCaskill's re-election was a gift given her by the GOP candidate Aikens who made some comments about rape that not even the majority of pro-lifers agree with and after that the GOP withheld their support for him and scurried to find a write-in in his place. Up to that point McCaskill was trailing in the polls.

Now Harry Reid may have been re-elected but it doesn't seem to appear his name recognition carries much weight. After two years of ole Harry shoving through Obamacare, and major feckless so called stimulus spending, in the 2010 Gubernatorial race in the Nevada general election, Sandoval (R) won 53%-41%, against Democrat Rory Reid, the Clark County Commissioner and son of U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He won every county in the state, and all with a majority except Clark County which Mr. Sandoval won with a plurality. (49%-47%).
It appears ole Harry is planning on running again in 2016, but this time his opponent will be Sandoval. Just three more years till the most despised Senator in all the land according to Gallup, will be sent packing.
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada says he will run for a sixth term in 2016. - latimes.com

You see there are consequences when a political party doesn't listen to the people and when they hollered "we don't want Obamacare" the Democrat Elites said "Piss on you, we do".

if you think 2014 will be a cake walk you are naive. the democratic party in montana found a candidate for the senate race in Lt governor john Walsh. and right now the republican party is in serious trouble according to gallup.

Republican Party Favorability Sinks to Record Low
 
if you think 2014 will be a cake walk you are naive. the democratic party in montana found a candidate for the senate race in Lt governor john Walsh. and right now the republican party is in serious trouble according to gallup.

Republican Party Favorability Sinks to Record Low

So tell me exactly what is it about the Harry Reid run Senate and Obama results that motivate you to continue to support the Democrat Party? Could it be that the "D" after their name trump the policies they are implementing? Why don't results matter now like they do when a Republican is in the WH?
 
So tell me exactly what is it about the Harry Reid run Senate and Obama results that motivate you to continue to support the Democrat Party? Could it be that the "D" after their name trump the policies they are implementing? Why don't results matter now like they do when a Republican is in the WH?

they are not asking for their own legislative items as demands. only do what congress has been expected to do and end the government shutdown, and raise the debt ceiling.
 
if you think 2014 will be a cake walk you are naive. the democratic party in montana found a candidate for the senate race in Lt governor john Walsh. and right now the republican party is in serious trouble according to gallup.

Republican Party Favorability Sinks to Record Low

Oh I never think any election is a cake walk. OMG no. It takes every able person that believes in the cause of liberty and Constitutional first principles that is willing to give of time and money. As the Founders once put it "our lives, our fortunes and sacred honor". With all my heart I want liberty to be the victor for my children and grandchildren and I will fight with everything I have to make sure that is the result.
 
they are not asking for their own legislative items as demands. only do what congress has been expected to do and end the government shutdown, and raise the debt ceiling.

How about adhering to the principles of the 2011 debt ceiling deal? You continue to believe what you are told and ignore history. Why is that? You want a debt ceiling increase, then support spending cuts.
 
the sequestor cuts are still in place.

Debt when the 2011 debt ceiling deal was agreed to was 14.7, it is 16.7 trillion today. Where are the promised cuts outside the sequester? Wasn't the debt ceiling increase not to increase the debt?
 
Guess we have a difference of opinion in who reported me as I was told differently. With regard to you my opinion is all that matters. won't be responding to your posts

Its not a matter of opinion. It's an absolute fact that I have never reported you.
 
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