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Obama Address the Nation on the government shutdown.

AlabamaPaul said:
I asked you this on another thread, but haven't received a reply, so I''ll ask you here...

Okay, let's discuss substance instead of ideology. If individuals need subsidies to purchase mandated government insurance, how will he/she ever be able to afford the co-pays much less the deductibles?
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to be perfectly honest i don't know how to answer that question.

and i don't know how it relates to my statement about people going on the Healthcare.gov website to ask questions about the exchanges.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
LOL, not when a full third of spending consists of entitlements, not including SS and Medicare...
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Still that is only a 3rd. And when a Republican gets into office and they want another war they will have to pay for it somehow.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
to be perfectly honest i don't know how to answer that question.

and i don't know how it relates to my statement about people going on the Healthcare.gov website to ask questions about the exchanges.
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It didn't, but thank you for answering. If you can't answer, why do you think the ACA will help anyone who is not currently insured?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
It didn't, but thank you for answering. If you can't answer, why do you think the ACA will help anyone who is not currently insured?
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i can only speak for myself, but i think if that people are going to the healthcare.gov website to ask questions about the exchanges, then it shows that some people are not sitting around waiting to be fined.
 
disneydude said:
LOL....the majority of the people of this country are "conservative"....sorry Charlie....wrong again. Most people in this country are moderate...which is why the teabaggers pushing the GOP to the extreme right spells the death of the GOP.


BTW....you do realize....at least I hope....that the red areas on the maps you posted represent by and large the areas of the country were the population is low. Why don't you look at actual numbers of people voting which is a more accurate indicator of the electorate. Over 1 million more people voted for democrats in congress during the last election than republicans....oops...I know why you tried to post irrelevant maps rather than numbers....its because the numbers don't match your rhetoric. Doh!
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Whether you like the maps or not is irrelevant but what is relevant is the reality that the People's House is controlled by the Republicans and unlike you the majority in this country do not like the Obama economic results and liberal arrogance. That divide will grow in 2014 just like it did in 2010. Obama will truly become a lame duck although his results show that he hasn't been involved since taking office. You see, results don't matter to a liberal unless they are negative and can be blamed on GW Bush.
 
greengirl77 said:
Still that is only a 3rd. And when a Republican gets into office and they want another war they will have to pay for it somehow.
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Both wars cost approximately 100B-150B per year combined while entitlements other than SS and Medicare are north of 1T per year. You do the math...
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
i can only speak for myself, but i think if that people are going to the healthcare.gov website to ask questions about the exchanges, then it shows that some people are not sitting around waiting to be fined.
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Most would accept the $95 tax for 2014 IMV...
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
i can only speak for myself, but i think if that people are going to the healthcare.gov website to ask questions about the exchanges, then it shows that some people are not sitting around waiting to be fined.
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How do you know who those people are and if they weren't created by Obamabots? The true picture will be weeks down the road when we see how many actually signed up and who those people are. If Obamacare doesn't attract the younger, healthier individuals there is no way this program can succeed nor should it. Healthcare is a state and local responsibility not a Federal one.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Both wars cost approximately 100B-150B per year combined while entitlements other than SS and Medicare are north of 1T per year. You do the math...
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Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion, Says Watson Institute Study

I would rather spend that money here on Americans. Than killing innocent woman and children, and putting our troops at risk for the Republican vanity wars. We all know how much money the Republicans spent when Bush was President on tax cuts, Medicare doughnut hole, and several other wastes of money. Any time a Republican talk about about regiening in spending we can always point to Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush2. They account for over 75% of the debt.
 
greengirl77 said:
Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion, Says Watson Institute Study

I would rather spend that money here on Americans. Than killing innocent woman and children, and putting our troops at risk for the Republican vanity wars. We all know how much money the Republicans spent when Bush was President on tax cuts, Medicare doughnut hole, and several other wastes of money. Any time a Republican talk about about regiening in spending we can always point to Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush2. They account for over 75% of the debt.
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The government uses cash accounting, not accrual accounting. Using the accrual method, the country is in debt in excess of approximately $100T
 
greengirl77 said:
Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion, Says Watson Institute Study

I would rather spend that money here on Americans. Than killing innocent woman and children, and putting our troops at risk for the Republican vanity wars. We all know how much money the Republicans spent when Bush was President on tax cuts, Medicare doughnut hole, and several other wastes of money. Any time a Republican talk about about regiening in spending we can always point to Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush2. They account for over 75% of the debt.
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Really? The nations debt was less than 11T when the President took office. It is not 17T. You do the math...
 
greengirl77 said:
Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion, Says Watson Institute Study

I would rather spend that money here on Americans. Than killing innocent woman and children, and putting our troops at risk for the Republican vanity wars. We all know how much money the Republicans spent when Bush was President on tax cuts, Medicare doughnut hole, and several other wastes of money. Any time a Republican talk about about regiening in spending we can always point to Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush2. They account for over 75% of the debt.
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That is a lie but you are good at doing that. 9/11 cost this country a trillion dollars according to the GAO and that was one event. Predictions and projections from left leaning websites aren't worth the paper they are written on. Treasury data is what the taxpayers pay for and you have yet to support your claims by using any verifiable data. I have given you the line items of the budget so please tell me what percentage of the 6.4 trillion Obama has added to the debt is due to Iraq? I find your ignorance and partisanship staggering.
Not sure where you went to school or are going to school but please tell me that your teachers didn't teach you that keeping more of your own money was an expense to the govt?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Really? The nations debt was less than 11T when the President took office. It is not 17T. You do the math...
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You aren't going to get a response from a typical Obamabot because the facts simply don't support her contention. Apparently none of that 10.6 trillion dollar debt that Obama inherited was due to Iraq and Afghanistan and it is all being charged to him now. That is liberal logic from a vile liberal who cheered the death of a former President.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Really? The nations debt was less than 11T when the President took office. It is not 17T. You do the math...
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I did because intrest still occurs on the Reagan tabs, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2. The funny thing is almost 30 years of Republican presidents and they spent almost 11 trillion lmao. The last Republican President we had to spend money to get us out of the mess he and the Republicans created or are you going to sit there and say it wasnt his fault but Obama's
 
Conservative said:
You aren't going to get a response from a typical Obamabot because the facts simply don't support her contention. Apparently none of that 10.6 trillion dollar debt that Obama inherited was due to Iraq and Afghanistan and it is all being charged to him now. That is liberal logic from a vile liberal who cheered the death of a former President.
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Yeah and I cant wait till Bush 1 and 2 kick the bucket those should be national holidays.
 
Conservative said:
How do you know who those people are and if they weren't created by Obamabots? The true picture will be weeks down the road when we see how many actually signed up and who those people are. If Obamacare doesn't attract the younger, healthier individuals there is no way this program can succeed nor should it. Healthcare is a state and local responsibility not a Federal one.
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The lure of controlling one-sixth of the economy has to be something rarely seen! That would seem to answer the question that was asked earlier..."Why are the Dems solidly behind this unpopular program?" :doh
 
greengirl77 said:
I did because intrest still occurs on the Reagan tabs, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2. The funny thing is almost 30 years of Republican presidents and they spent almost 11 trillion lmao. The last Republican President we had to spend money to get us out of the mess he and the Republicans created or are you going to sit there and say it wasnt his fault but Obama's
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Is interest not due on the President's debt? Seriously, it's more entertaining discussing individual thoughts rather than those one might want to parrot from another source...
 
greengirl77 said:
Yeah and I cant wait till Bush 1 and 2 kick the bucket those should be national holidays.
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You are giving liberals a great name and reputation. You, kid, are part of the problem not part of the solution. Your ignorance is staggering. What is the debt service on the debt per year and what has Obama done to reduce it?
 
polgara said:
The lure of controlling one-sixth of the economy has to be something rarely seen! That would seem to answer the question that was asked earlier..."Why are the Dems solidly behind this unpopular program?" :doh
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Both parties are only interested in who controls the spending, not how much is spent...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Is interest not due on the President's debt? Seriously, it's more entertaining discussing individual thoughts rather than those one might want to parrot from another source...
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Of course not, Obama isn't creating debt, it is all GW Bush's fault. His 3.77 trillion dollar budget is great use of taxpayer money and of course doesn't create any debt. All those unemployed/under employed Americans due to Obama policies who aren't paying much in income taxes aren't contributing to the Obama debt either. It is interesting that everything today is still Bush's fault and the economic results today are no where to be found in the Obamabot posts, gee, wonder why?
 
polgara said:
The lure of controlling one-sixth of the economy has to be something rarely seen! That would seem to answer the question that was asked earlier..."Why are the Dems solidly behind this unpopular program?" :doh
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Evening Pol, perhaps you have something there. Maybe it is democrats want the government to control everything to include when one uses the bathroom and the Republicans want corporations and business to control everything to include what goes on in the bedroom.
 
Perotista said:
Evening Pol, perhaps you have something there. Maybe it is democrats want the government to control everything to include when one uses the bathroom and the Republicans want corporations and business to control everything to include what goes on in the bedroom.
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:agree: But whoever wants to control the kitchen better know how to cook, or there's gonna be trouble in the land! :lamo:

Good evening, Pero. :2wave:
 
greengirl77 said:
Yeah and I cant wait till Bush 1 and 2 kick the bucket those should be national holidays.
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It really is sad when you have such hatred for former Presidents simply because you don't like their polices which of course you distort and don't even understand. What exactly did either Bush do to you or your family to create this kind of hatred and do you really need Obamanomics to make it in this economy?
 
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