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CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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calamity said:
You want a laugh, here's TD's Waterloo
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your arguments started weak and have become inane. You seem to think that means what FDR did was "good".

tell us, do you really believe that the commerce clause was created to allow congress to void the second amendment or to allow the federal government to force a farmer to grow or not grow wheat?
 
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calamity said:
Yeah, we would have been better off if Landon won.

..and if pigs could fly. :lol:
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socialists and big government fans of course like the fact that FDR raped the tenth amendment. You love the big bloated government we have today.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Why should I go on the record for something I never said. We'd be better off if Roosevelt never had a second term. Hoover was too damaged after his first three years to be an effective second term president. We'd been far better off if the Supreme court continued respecting the precedent that was illustrated in the Schectner Poultry decision

having one party appoint all of the federal judges for a 20 year period was a mistake this country has never recovered from
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I know this. You're definitely not worth my time. I said a long time ago I am a realist. You wish FDR lost in '36. THat is not even close to reality.

Good night.
 
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upsideguy said:
Look, we have a deficit economic infrastructure... we can have quite an argument as to why... but that isn't the point. Raising or not raising the debt limit really has nothing to do with whether the debt it going to increase. Its going to increase regardless of the "decision" congress makes in this regard. Only someone with no understanding of economics and government finance would think that not raising the debt limit would mean that debt will not go up.
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Well then I need someone with an understanding of "economics and finance" to explain why, if there is no link between debt and a debt ceiling, Obama is/has pushed for an increase in the debt ceiling. Because I am convinced that debt has something to do with the debt ceiling. Or vise versa.
 
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calamity said:
I this. You're definitely not worth my time. I said a long time ago I am a realist. You wish FDR lost in '36. THat is not even close to reality.

Good night.
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Does I this make any sense.
I wouldn't have minded if FDR had been Lee Harvey Oswalded. The damage he did to this country is irreparable.
 
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TurtleDude said:
socialists and big government fans of course like the fact that FDR raped the tenth amendment. You love the big bloated government we have today.
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If I just ranted about what I did not like, you would be as bored with me as we all are with you. If you can't get within a 100 Electoral Votes of reality, you're not really worth our time. Bye.

EDIT: FDR kicking Alf's butt is not the only 100-plus vote Re-election landslide.

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O:332 R:206

Though not quite as bad
 
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calamity said:
Ah. Another anti-RINO Puritan. I thank you, BTW. Without your ilk, the GOP would never have died the slow beautiful agonizing death we are all witnessing today.

Cheers.
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Don't be goofy. This is not the first time the Conservatives have had to fight to gain control of the party. We are of a mood to overthrow the party. I have already stopped funding it. We will challenge the establishment Republicans and we will win or we will leave. Establishment Republicans are nearly as bad as democrats. Both are statists.
McCain is a status quo republican liberal. He is a SQRL. A rhino is way too magnificant a beast to call McCain one. I will support any conservative who Primaries MsCain. If no conservative wins I will support McCain's democratic challenger.
 
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calamity said:
If I just ranted about what I did not like, you would be as bored with me as we all are with you. If you can't get within a 100 Electoral Voted of reality, you're not really worth our time. Bye.
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one of the most moronic arguments is to try to dismiss a philosophical argument with appeals to voting numbers. Its the sign of an inability to deal with the points. I wonder how the appeal for gay rights would have done back then? So that means gay rights is silly since during most of our history it would have faired about as well as Alf Landon>
 
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No wonder Democrats are in trouble with the Electoral College looking at this map, with huge losses in Pennsylvania, New York and Illinois..
calamity said:
You want a laugh, here's TD's Waterloo
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Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

TurtleDude said:
Does I this make any sense.
I wouldn't have minded if FDR had been Lee Harvey Oswalded. The damage he did to this country is irreparable.
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No. It makes no sense.
 
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calamity said:
No. It makes no sense.
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of course not to you-you are a big fan of more government and the Democratic party
 
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NIMBY said:
No wonder Democrats are in trouble with the Electoral College looking at this map, with huge losses in Pennsylvania, New York and Illinois..
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Everyone moved to Texas and picked up their politics. I know at least 10 people who moved there and became fans of that GOP crap that they sell own there.

The upside?

They all became Cowboy fans. ANd, the team has not won since they moved there.

Too bad they haven't put two and two together.
 
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TurtleDude said:
of course not to you-you are a big fan of more government and the Democratic party
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Nope. I am a realist. I look at observable results with the jaundiced eye of a scientist. You, not so much.

You do know you are wishing for something that received 8 electoral votes? That doesn't wake you up?
 
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TurtleDude said:
having one party appoint all of the federal judges for a 20 year period was a mistake this country has never recovered from
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This is a very good point TD..
Grover Cleveland appointed the only 4 Supremes that Democrats appointed in 52 years..
And in sincerity, you would be better than Clarence Thomas..
At least you would speak and 'converse'..PMA
 
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Brunt of blame is my only segue to maybe some empty seats Sunday night for WASH at DAL
calamity said:
Everyone moved to Texas and picked up their politics. I know at least 10 people who moved there and became fans of that GOP crap that they sell own there.

The upside?

They all became Cowboy fans. ANd, the team has not won since they moved there.

Too bad they haven't put two and two together.
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NIMBY said:
This is a very good point TD..
Grover Cleveland appointed the only 4 Supremes that Democrats appointed in 52 years..
And in sincerity, you would be better than Clarence Thomas..
At least you would speak and 'converse'..PMA
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TD reminds me of the teenagers my gf councils. They wish for this and say the world would be better off if not for that. Yeah. I agree. Too bad the planet does not kick back rose smells when we fart.
 
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In the reverse of what you said about Oswald and FDR, that really happened to McKinley and gave us T. Roosevelt..
TurtleDude said:
Does I this make any sense.
I wouldn't have minded if FDR had been Lee Harvey Oswalded. The damage he did to this country is irreparable.
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NIMBY said:
Brunt of blame is my only segue to maybe some empty seats Sunday night for WASH at DAL
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Upside for both teams losing, I guess.
 
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And the two poles won't reverse for what 5,000 years..
I still do not dismiss that old Indian Chief and his 20-year curse.
calamity said:
TD reminds me of the teenagers my gf councils. They wish for this and say the world would be better off if not for that. Yeah. I agree. Too bad the planet does not kick back rose smells when we fart.
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Since your post was fool of Great smackin smart***ery which I appreciate, kudos..
Misterveritis said:
Don't be goofy. This is not the first time the Conservatives have had to fight to gain control of the party. We are of a mood to overthrow the party. I have already stopped funding it. We will challenge the establishment Republicans and we will win or we will leave. Establishment Republicans are nearly as bad as democrats. Both are statists.
McCain is a status quo republican liberal. He is a SQRL. A rhino is way too magnificant a beast to call McCain one. I will support any conservative who Primaries MsCain. If no conservative wins I will support McCain's democratic challenger.
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Speaking of teenagers, their prime goal in class is to text without getting caught--It's like they have ****ing Braille on their Iphones..
I set a great trap once using mirrors..
And then it's pass time, when the hoods go back on, with the ears, making out, grindin
calamity said:
TD reminds me of the teenagers my gf councils. They wish for this and say the world would be better off if not for that. Yeah. I agree. Too bad the planet does not kick back rose smells when we fart.
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Conservative said:
LOL, not bad for a program that hasn't even gone into effect. How did ACA which isn't in effect created a reduction in Medicare? Is that what they teach you in the Chicago School system?
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ACO formation. You know, the stuff you're willfully ignorant about?

Also the changes in Medicare reimbursement systems that are part of the same ACA you seem to know so little about.

Never saw a guy rejoice in his ignorance as much as you.
 
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Taylor said:
Do you find any of these analyses compelling? Really? None of the statistics provide good measures because he doesn't take into account base rates, not to mention that oftentimes different countries use different methodologies for the "same" statistic.


The survey info is a joke. Can we really rank quality of care based on whether people think their doctors spend a lot of time with them, or are very familiar with their history? Or whether they believe that system needs to be overhauled? If this is supposed to provide an indicator for quality of care, why not ask about quality of care, lol. The physician survey is similarly useless. Our quality of care is poor because fewer physicians in the US say that they use electronic records? Did they bother to ask why? Many doctors refuse to implement such systems because they believe it REDUCES the quality of care.


It would be wonderful if we could effectively study something like this by spending a few nights looking up data on the internet and posting a few excel graphs and your naive interpretation on a blog, but that's just not reality.
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Actually, it's an analysis by one of the better health economists I know. He's a physician and is published pretty widely on the subject. Most of those articles are paywalled, but the blog has similar, cogent info.
 
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NIMBY said:
Speaking of teenagers, their prime goal in class is to text without getting caught--It's like they have ****ing Braille on their Iphones..
I set a great trap once using mirrors..
And then it's pass time, when the hoods go back on, with the ears, making out, grindin
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I'm trying to tie that back to Tea Nuts and extreme Conservatives. I think the best take on that is that they watch Fox News in order to avoid confronting all the damage they have done. Fox seemingly keeps feeding to them that the D's are to blame. :lol:
 
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I'm not sure kids give a **** about this **** in DC..
Once they go to College, some are all in..
But in anti-voting states, 17-YO are now prevented from pre-registering before their birthday, falling after the register date in these states..
College kids are being prevented from even voting from the dorms, a non-domicile..
This anti-VRA is all part of this TEAt revolution that has the govt. closed.
calamity said:
I'm trying to tie that back to Tea Nuts and extreme Conservatives. I think the best take on that is that they watch Fox News in order to avoid confronting all the damage they have done. Fox seemingly keeps feeding to them that the D's are to blame. :lol:
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