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CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

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I have found the Edit Ignore list to be my friend lately.
These klowns are pushing me to two pages but I'm willing to hand them a tree branch to get out of their quicksand.
calamity said:
Facts have a liberal bias---so I'm sure our friend Conservative will argue that what you wrote is just lefty propaganda.
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Perotista said:
We do have term limits and it is called elections. Only the people never pay any attention to the real goings on in Washington. Most Americans only start to pay attention a few days or a week before an election. Everything else is lost and their vote is more on feel and perception than based on the issues and fact. A good slogan, talking points and loud rhetoric will carry the day.
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We also have term limits in the state offices but somehow what is good enough for the states isn't good enough for the career politicians in D.C. I thought as you do but changed my mind as incumbents are difficult to unseat because of the power of the office and the national media. If term limits are good enough for the states, they should be good enough for national political office.
 
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Mithros said:
And therein lies the real problem; we have an uneducated apathetic voter base made up of individuals who are too easily swayed by propaganda.
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Very true and both political parties thrive on that.
 
Do you have the Military Channel?
It is not just Military.
Last night I caught an hour on the plagues.
Only the last one is seemed to still be up for theory.
I generally go until 2/3 AM, after sports and then the MC.
Perotista said:
We do have term limits and it is called elections. Only the people never pay any attention to the real goings on in Washington. Most Americans only start to pay attention a few days or a week before an election. Everything else is lost and their vote is more on feel and perception than based on the issues and fact. A good slogan, talking points and loud rhetoric will carry the day.
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Conservative said:
We also have term limits in the state offices but somehow what is good enough for the states isn't good enough for the career politicians in D.C. I thought as you do but changed my mind as incumbents are difficult to unseat because of the power of the office and the national media. If term limits are good enough for the states, they should be good enough for national political office.
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I was a big backer of term limits back in the 80's and 90's. The framers and founding fathers envision a farmer or a worker going to Washington to do the public business for a term or two, then returning to their job.
 
NIMBY said:
Do you have the Military Channel?
It is not just Military.
Last night I caught an hour on the plagues.
Only the last one is seemed to still be up for theory.
I generally go until 2/3 AM, after sports and then the MC.
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The braves lost. No I don't get the military channel, but there has been many docu's on the history channel concerning plagues etc.
 
Having Kimball in the bullpen when you lost is tough to take.
Uribe is an Uggla-type of player, Mr. October.
Another good station is H2.
Also, BBC gives a fresh perspective on news.
Perotista said:
The braves lost. No I don't get the military channel, but there has been many docu's on the history channel concerning plagues etc.
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Perotista said:
I was a big backer of term limits back in the 80's and 90's. The framers and founding fathers envision a farmer or a worker going to Washington to do the public business for a term or two, then returning to their job.
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That is one of the reasons I love TX which has a part time legislature. They meet once every two years unless called into session by the Governor. They create the laws then have to live under them when returning home. Could be part of the reason that TX is so pro business and pro individual rights as well as having such a successful economy. Moved here in 1992 and it was the best move of my life from an economic and quality of life standard.
 
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NIMBY said:
I have found the Edit Ignore list to be my friend lately.
These klowns are pushing me to two pages but I'm willing to hand them a tree branch to get out of their quicksand.
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Meh. I just let their garbage roll off. They're the ones who can't cope with the truth, run to the mods and stuff when the gloves come off.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, absolutely amazing how brainwashed people like you are. Do you realize that the city of NY has almost as many people as the state of Ohio? Big cities vote Democratic and of course add to that discrepancy in votes. Liberal candidates in liberal states wins are going to create enough of that vote to give the Democrats total vote control but what does that matter? Please stop this bs and tell me why you continue to buy into Obamanomics? Why is it you support a large central govt. distributing money as they see fit vs. your state doing that? Do you really want that massive central govt. where Federal Bureaucrats control the purse strings and all money going to them to distribute?

We had this discussion the other day and I knew you would ignore the response to come back with the same argument a few days later. Gerrymandering has occurred forever and it took the GOP 40 years to control the House of Representatives. Wonder why?
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Yeah. We wouldn't want to count big cities. Now would we?

Much better to let some nobody county out in the backwoods of Wyoming dictate US policy than those ruffians in NYC. :roll:
 
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calamity said:
Meh. I just let their garbage roll off. They're the ones who can't cope with the truth, run to the mods and stuff when the gloves come off.
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You are absolutely correct, never let actual facts and data get in the way of your own personal opinions. It is much easier going through life naïve and gullible vs. doing research and learning from your mistakes.

By the way, I don't run to the moderators, too bad you have no idea who is doing that. I do and don't respond to them any more.
 
calamity said:
Yeah. We wouldn't want to count big cities. Now would we?

Much better to let some nobody county out in the backwoods of Wyoming dictate US policy than those ruffians in NYC. :roll:
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I am not the one passing off total vote as a true indication of election results, you are. You are the one ignoring the make up of the House simply because of big city votes swinging the popular votes. Guess you don't feel that small states deserve a voice and should be ruled by the big cities.
 
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When I take a Republican, I have time to scan the front page of Politico and look at their headlines.
A new one has Rep. Amash being primaried by a RINO, a new trend emerging.
calamity said:
Meh. I just let their garbage roll off. They're the ones who can't cope with the truth, run to the mods and stuff when the gloves come off.
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NIMBY said:
Having Kimball in the bullpen when you lost is tough to take.
Uribe is an Uggla-type of player, Mr. October.
Another good station is H2.
Also, BBC gives a fresh perspective on news.
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I really don't watch that much TV. I have a 24 hours news radio channel I listen to, a CUMULUS Broadcasting station. Then there is the internet to check out what I think needs checking out.
 
Conservative said:
That is one of the reasons I love TX which has a part time legislature. They meet once every two years unless called into session by the Governor. They create the laws then have to live under them when returning home. Could be part of the reason that TX is so pro business and pro individual rights as well as having such a successful economy. Moved here in 1992 and it was the best move of my life from an economic and quality of life standard.
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Georgia has a part time legislature also, they meet for 60 days each year and also have to live under the laws they pass.
 
Perotista said:
Georgia has a part time legislature also, they meet for 60 days each year and also have to live under the laws they pass.
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That is exactly what our Founders envisioned. I knew there was something I liked about Georgia even though I never liked the "chop."
 
calamity said:
Yeah. We wouldn't want to count big cities. Now would we?

Much better to let some nobody county out in the backwoods of Wyoming dictate US policy than those ruffians in NYC. :roll:
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Oh, by the way, talk about liberal arrogance? We cannot let "some nobody country out of the backwoods of Wyoming dictate US Policy" because of course we know those people don't represent any of the values of this country. You really need to take a history class
 
Are you watching this rather long Obama presser?
Perotista said:
I really don't watch that much TV. I have a 24 hours news radio channel I listen to, a CUMULUS Broadcasting station. Then there is the internet to check out what I think needs checking out.
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Conservative said:
That is exactly what our Founders envisioned. I knew there was something I liked about Atlanta even though I never liked the "chop."
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I'd say Georgia as a whole, not necessarily Atlanta in particular. I live around 30 miles south of Atlanta, not far from the AMS in Hampton. The city of Atlanta mirrors much of the country which they are perfectally willing to saddle future generations with debt. They won't even fix their water and sewer systems, prefering to pay a year fine for all the leaks and busted water pipes and sewerage overflow. The city looks for other people for money to fix what is their problem. They have asked the state and the federal government for grants to do that. Both declined.

Funny how every other city is able to fix their own problems without that much outside help. I guess it is all a matter of priorities. The mayor and city council members make more than the average citizen, more even than the governor. But such is Atlanta.
 
NIMBY said:
Are you watching this rather long Obama presser?
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no, I haven't watched the president give a speech in a long time. Most remind me of campaign speeches. Besides I will get a quick run down over the radio. Being a numbers guy, I actually am more interested in how other perceive it than what I think of it. I never much listen to any president speeches etc. I always preferred the quick run down. now I have watched debate of certain bills and votes in congress on C-Span.
 
Spinners on MSNBC caught the part of a short-term offer by the POTUS on the debt limit, like 8 weeks.
But, since Obama said it out loud, you know what that means with Repubs.
And, the Dem caucus isn't happy with this idea.
Perotista said:
no, I haven't watched the president give a speech in a long time. Most remind me of campaign speeches. Besides I will get a quick run down over the radio. Being a numbers guy, I actually am more interested in how other perceive it than what I think of it. I never much listen to any president speeches etc. I always preferred the quick run down. now I have watched debate of certain bills and votes in congress on C-Span.
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the Democrats are finished.. they have lost the moral high ground that was on sold as a lie by the media..

Obama is a plague
 
Travis007 said:
the Democrats are finished.. they have lost the moral high ground that was on sold as a lie by the media..

Obama is a plague
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Holy **** Travis, I haven't seen you in ages. How've ya been?
 
sorry.. that jive just doesnt jive with me.. if you think Obama is like "anything before him" then you should find out about Obama

Obama hates the USA...dont be fooled.. its too late now anyway..
 
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