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CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Re: Most would blame Republicans

Oh please, one of your fellow travelers is actually quoting Jon Stewart? Want to talk tabloids? Most of the pap written in here by liberals could be plagiarized word for word from the likes of MSNBC, and you talk 'mindless'?

Come on now. GOPtards can't even wipe their own a$$es unless Rush or Hannity tell them which hand to use and how many wipes per flush. GOP is the party of brainless lemmings looking for handouts. Every time I have ever seen a study of blue states vs. red states with regard to taxes paid and entitlements used; it is always the blue states doing the paying and the red states doing the taking.

Top Ten (Source: Tax Foundation):
1. New Mexico Indian reservations, military bases, federal research labs, farm subsidies, retirement programs
2. Mississippi Farm subsidies, military spending, nutrition and anti-poverty aid, retirement programs.
3. Alaska Per capita No 1 recipient of federal benefits; infrastructure projects, DOT and pork projects.
4. Louisiana Disaster relief, farm subsidies, anti-poverty and nutrition aid, military spending.
5. W. Virginia Farm subsidies, anti-poverty and nutrition aid.
6. N. Dakota Farm subsidies, energy subsidies, retirement and anti-poverty programs, Indian reservations.
7. Alabama Retirement programs, anti-poverty and nutrition aid, federal space/military spending, farm subsidies.
8. S. Dakota Retirement programs, nutrition aid, farm subsidies, military spending, Indian reservations.
9. Virginia Civil service pensions, military spending, veterans benefits, retirement, anti-poverty aid.
10. Kentucky Retirement programs, nutritional and anti-poverty aid, farm subsidies.

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Re: Most would blame Republicans

A majority in this house is NOT sufficient to pass or repeal legislation. If you think the ACA is unpopular, than you can wait until the next election and hope you get enough votes to repeal the ACA legitimately. Stop pretending that your views are special and that the law should bow before you whims when you don't have electoral support to make it happen.

Yes, I do understand that just like I do understand that the House is the "People's House" thus not irrelevant and that the Representatives were sent to Congress to repeal the bill or defund it. That is what they are doing. My views have never been special, only realistic and based upon a much better understanding of civics than most Obama supporters.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

You're a bit behind in your useless memes Snappo, even the liberals have realized there are no such thing as red and blue states - they're all varying shades of purple.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

You are welcome, Franz Reichelt.

Tell us more about hate again? I call you a left wing commentator, and you call me a nazi....What was that about hate? :roll:
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Your works of fiction are laughable. The mess we are in are the fault of the GOP. And now thanks to GOP the government is shutting down. Any kindergarten kid was taught how to play with the other kids in the sandbox. GOP cannot work with any other party, and values partisan hatred over the needs of the American citizens. GOP is already non-viable on the national stage and will remain so for at least another generation. You won't see another GOP POTUS for at least 2 decades and maybe more.

Stay in school and stop trying to lecture someone with 35 years business experience. All people like you do is place blame never accepting responsibility. This is a sad state of affairs when the will of the people is ignored and blamed for the govt. shutdown. Obama can negotiate exemptions for supporters but not the American people in general, too bad you don't understand the concept of negotiations. Hope you don't mind if I don't take any of your predictions seriously as they are about as accurate as Obama's have been.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Tell us about hate again smartest guy in the world....:roll:

Do you speak jibberish because you think you are from Jiberia? Did Jesus tell you that's where you live? I know how GOPtards sure do love those invisible sky daddies.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Do you speak jibberish because you think you are from Jiberia? Did Jesus tell you that's where you live? I know how GOPtards sure do love those invisible sky daddies.

Tell us about hate again there flame thrower? You got nothing but cheap insults, and meaningless drivel....do us a favor and get lost.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Stay in school and stop trying to lecture someone with 35 years business experience. All people like you do is place blame never accepting responsibility. This is a sad state of affairs when the will of the people is ignored and blamed for the govt. shutdown. Obama can negotiate exemptions for supporters but not the American people in general, too bad you don't understand the concept of negotiations. Hope you don't mind if I don't take any of your predictions seriously as they are about as accurate as Obama's have been.

I cannot lecture you because I cannot dumb things down enough for you to understand. LOL @ staying in school. You only wish you completed half of the academics I have. And riding on the back of a garbage truck <> 35 years of business experience, no matter what your special ed teacher told you about how great you are.
 
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Do you speak jibberish because you think you are from Jiberia? Did Jesus tell you that's where you live? I know how GOPtards sure do love those invisible sky daddies.

Wow, look at the name calling, doubt seriously you are going be around long. I do hope that someday I become just half as smart as you THINK you are
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Tell us about hate again there flame thrower? You got nothing but cheap insults, and meaningless drivel....do us a favor and get lost.

Take your hands out of your pants and roll up that Rush poster - your parents will be home any minute.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

I cannot lecture you because I cannot dumb things down enough for you to understand. LOL @ staying in school. You only wish you completed half of the academics I have. And riding on the back of a garbage truck <> 35 years of business experience, no matter what your special ed teacher told you about how great you are.

Wow, you sure told me. I am smart enough not to get into a name calling contest with you. You have been told get lost and I support that recommendation.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

I do hope that someday I become just half as smart as you THINK you are

You won't reach half as smart. You will be saddled with your IQ for life.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Take your hands out of your pants and roll up that Rush poster - your parents will be home any minute.

I don't report people but you are getting very close to being my first. Grow up and stop with the name calling and childish statements. Stick to the topic or simply get lost.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Wow, you sure told me. I am smart enough not to get into a name calling contest with you. You have been told get lost and I support that recommendation.

Funny how you start the flames then back off just enough to keep from an infraction. If that. I think you two should be the ones that get lost and let the adults talk for a while.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

I don't report people but you are getting very close to being my first. Grow up and stop with the name calling and childish statements. Stick to the topic or simply get lost.

You started the flames with the following statement: "Stay in school". That's a personal attack and was the first one of the thread. I think you should click the report button. You need some time off.
 
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Do you speak jibberish because you think you are from Jiberia? Did Jesus tell you that's where you live? I know how GOPtards sure do love those invisible sky daddies.

You're just ticking all the boxes aren't you? Funny considering you're spewing everything you claim to oppose.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Yours is the lie.
1. They have passed several smaller propositions (since they shut down the govt) that would fund programs they like.
2. You have previously NOT had the right to shut down the govt/Blackmail the country if you don't agree with an already passed (and UNSC allowed) law.
3. Because they are hyper-partsian wack jobs, they have shut it down..
Just let's not be under any illusion/LIE about Who has.
The debate by the Limbaugh Lackies here is garbage-speak.

No lie on my part. Spending bills start off in the House. If the Senate doesn't agree to it, they are supposed to negotiate with the House.

The Senate and Obama are the ones making up the rules as they go and they are the ones responsible for the so called "shut down".
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Tell us about hate again there flame thrower? You got nothing but cheap insults, and meaningless drivel....do us a favor and get lost.

That guy is as phony as a three dollar bill.

And just a guess on my part, a drunk poster. At least many of his posts seem that way.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Yes, elections do have consequences...That is what the newly elected members in the house, and senate that you and your friends so affectionately call 'teabaggers' were elected to do....The tyranny I speak of is not extreme, nor overt, but rater a soft tyranny. When you use mindless rhetoric like 'elections have consequences', what you are really saying is 'we won, so sit down and shut up, we don't have to listen to you.' And it is this latest pablum from the left about Obamacare being passed by congress, signed by Obama, and upheld by the SCOTUS, that is frightening to those of us that want to see the constitution upheld.

Look, just because you had a super majority, locked out the minority party in the constructing of this law, then used double speak to get the SCOTUS to declare it a tax, when the whole damned time up to then you argued that it wasn't now you want to rest on that? Really? This was **** from its very start, and needs to be killed before it becomes just another entitlement that can't be touched, and adds to the others that progressives put into place, and have racked up over a $120 Trillion in unfunded liability.

I have said it before, and I will continue to say it...Progressives are dangerous.

There is no such thing as "soft tyranny". That's just you trying to hold fast to using stupid words to incite folks. People who generally use that word in our country use it in place of, "we lost an election and we aren't getting our way... therefore it's tyranny."

The SCOTUS upholds the constitution. And they did and Obamacare is constitutionally approved. It's not a case of being unconstitutional or tyranny. Again, it's just you not getting your way.

You wish to kill it... TOO LATE. No temper tantrum will overturn it.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

Yes, we do have elections, the House is the "People's House" and was part of that election. they are charged with undoing Obamacare or at least making it fair for all Americans.

And they held to their charge and lost... 3 years ago. Get over it.

Conservative said:
Seems the only elections that matter to you are the President and the Senate. The "People" won the election, the nation lost especially when the corrupt big cities carried the states for this incompetent President

You guys gerrymandered districts sooooo badly that you lost the popular vote in the house and still held a solid majority. Whining about electoral corruption from a repub is beyond rich.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

You don't see a problem here, cutting funding for one piece of legislation shuts down the govt. for a President who has yet to have a budget enacted? We are operating on CR's because we have an incompetent President who negotiates with contributors and his base but not the Representatives of the "People."

Aside from that B.S. home-spun republican narrative of what happened... they key is:

Bills are for negotiating. Laws are not.
 
Re: Most would blame Republicans

And they held to their charge and lost... 3 years ago. Get over it.



You guys gerrymandered districts sooooo badly that you lost the popular vote in the house and still held a solid majority. Whining about electoral corruption from a repub is beyond rich.

No, I am sorry, the Republicans retained control of the House in 2012, what election were you watching?

Please tell me what it is about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty because it certainly isn't his economic results or leadership qualities. What is wrong with people like you who have to destroy anyone that disagrees with you. Results matter which you don't seem to understand. Gerrymandering the districts? Apparently Democrats never do that nor do they shut out Republicans in any negotiations like the behind closed door sessions for Obamacare. Do you people ever accept responsibility for anything including election losses?
 
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Re: Most would blame Republicans

Aside from that B.S. home-spun republican narrative of what happened... they key is:

Bills are for negotiating. Laws are not.

I have no problem with that if you can show me where in the ACA were the exemptions described and explained? Seems those exemptions were created AFTER the law so apparently exemptions are negotiable but apparently only for Obama supporters and backers.
 
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