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Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

No, you don't, and we won't.

Medicare and SS may not have been supposed to be a part of the budget, but the fact is, they are a part of it.

We used to say that two supposdtas and a dime would get you a cup of coffee, but that's out of date.

Now, two supposdtas and five bucks will get you a grande latte mocha with fru frus on top.

Doesn't make it right and is why we have so many who lack any understanding of the budget and the taxes that pay for those line items.
 
Yet Obama and Congress continue to spend money on things like the Stimulus that stimulated what? The takeover of GM/Chrysler, the supplementals for Afghanistan, the implementation of Obamacare. I could go on but for some reason I don't see much use with you

Yeah. Because I school you continuously.

The stimulus was a one time occurence that educated people (you might know some) believe may have prevented the recession from going to depression. It hasn't been part if the budget for a couple years.
 
Yeah. Because I school you continuously.

The stimulus was a one time occurence that educated people (you might know some) believe may have prevented the recession from going to depression. It hasn't been part if the budget for a couple years.

LOL, you better school yourself because I can beat you to death all night with actual Obama economic data. The stimulus was an expense added to the debt, it didn't create enough jobs to keep unemployment below 8% as promised. Obama submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget so what does that do to the deficit if it was passed? Do you always buy what Obama says? Why don't you hold him to the same standards as you hold Republicans?
 
Yet Obama and Congress continue to spend money on things like...the supplementals for Afghanistan,
One minute it's not the wars and the next minute it is the wars. When your name is "Conservative" it's good to have options when it comes to blame.
 
LOL, you better school yourself because I can beat you to death all night with actual Obama economic data. The stimulus was an expense added to the debt, it didn't create enough jobs to keep unemployment below 8% as promised. Obama submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget so what does that do to the deficit if it was passed? Do you always buy what Obama says? Why don't you hold him to the same standards as you hold Republicans?

You didn't even know anything about a linchpin ACA program. You think Obama has increased deficits primarily by spending. You think you are forced to use Medicare.

Schooled. But somehow refractory to rudimentary education!

You are an embarrassment to actual Conservatives. And the sad thing is...you don't recognize it.
 
Medicare was always self funding just like SS and was never to be part of the budget. LBJ changed that when he created the unified budget. Medicare should never be part of the issue. Medicaid is part of HHS and also gets funding from the states. VA is a line item in the budget and also includes military veterans from all the wars. The problem that liberals have is they want to blame the debt on the wars and as the line items show that just isn't the case. Much of the problem is Obama spending too much and not putting enough people back to work with a pro growth economic policy. You don't pay for a 3.77 trillion dollar budget with 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers not paying much if any in Federal income taxes

one you don't care aout the unemployed and I will quote you again if need be. Two it was the Bush tax cuts that created the 47%.
 
One minute it's not the wars and the next minute it is the wars. When your name is "Conservative" it's good to have options when it comes to blame.

Glad to see your leaning, Liberaltarian where you never have to respond to the negative economic numbers and performance and can always blame someone else
 
You didn't even know anything about a linchpin ACA program. You think Obama has increased deficits primarily by spending. You think you are forced to use Medicare.

Schooled. But somehow refractory to rudimentary education!

You are an embarrassment to actual Conservatives. And the sad thing is...you don't recognize it.

Keep trying to wiggle out of your own ignorance. Love being schooled by someone from that politically correct area known as Chicago. Apparently you don't have to respond to actual data and facts because of course being from Chicago you make your facts. Corruption is the new normal in Chicago so is ignorance of the data. Please post where I said Obama increased deficits primarily by spending? you do understand that 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers have nothing to do with spending? What is it about Obama and the liberal ideology that creates people like you? Guess you are used to partisan, ghetto politics
 
one you don't care aout the unemployed and I will quote you again if need be. Two it was the Bush tax cuts that created the 47%.

Feel free, go for it. Long term unemployed is the new Obama normal and the more people he can get to drop out of the labor force the more people like you trumpet his economic numbers all because people dropping out of the labor force aren't counted in the official unemployment numbers
 
Keep trying to wiggle out of your own ignorance. Love being schooled by someone from that politically correct area known as Chicago. Apparently you don't have to respond to actual data and facts because of course being from Chicago you make your facts. Corruption is the new normal in Chicago so is ignorance of the data. Please post where I said Obama increased deficits primarily by spending? you do understand that 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers have nothing to do with spending? What is it about Obama and the liberal ideology that creates people like you? Guess you are used to partisan, ghetto politics

As a conservative and econ major, stop embarrassing us! You not only know frighteningly little, but your head is also filled with incorrect information!
 
As a conservative and econ major, stop embarrassing us! You not only know frighteningly little, but your head is also filled with incorrect information!

LOL, love those people who believe they are book smart when the reality is they are street stupid. Please cite for us what statement I have made that is false and back it up with data, "slightly conservative?"
 
LOL, love those people who believe they are book smart when the reality is they are street stupid. Please cite for us what statement I have made that is false and back it up with data, "slightly conservative?"

Everything is wrong. Threegoofs already told you.

What does street smarts have to do with economics?
 
Everything is wrong. Threegoofs already told you.

What does street smarts have to do with economics?

I have given you the opportunity to prove me wrong economically and you haven't even tried to do that. Where you people are always fooled is that you believe theory is reality and works. Street smarts is real life experience dictating human behavior, something theory ignores. Liberal social programs in theory sound great but I reality are disasters as they destroy incentive and create greater govt. dependence. Threegoofs and you are prone to believe the textbooks and ignore reality thus theory in your world trumps actual results.
 
i have given you the opportunity to prove me wrong economically and you haven't even tried to do that. Where you people are always fooled is that you believe theory is reality and works. Street smarts is real life experience dictating human behavior, something theory ignores. Liberal social programs in theory sound great but i reality are disasters as they destroy incentive and create greater govt. Dependence. Threegoofs and you are prone to believe the textbooks and ignore reality thus theory in your world trumps actual results.

Lol!!!
 
Glad to see your leaning, Liberaltarian where you never have to respond to the negative economic numbers and performance and can always blame someone else
As a libertarian I'm for cutting all government spending unlike hypocritical conservatives like you, who feel the military is a sacred cow and should never be cut.
 
As a libertarian I'm for cutting all government spending unlike hypocritical conservatives like you, who feel the military is a sacred cow and should never be cut.

The military budget is 700 billion of the 3.6 trillion dollar budget so how much are you going to cut? Cut it completely and Obama deficits are still well over 500 billion a year.
 
I'm for cutting Conservatives Social Security and Medicare during the shutdown, in addition to Congressional pay and expenses (sans staff salaries).

Why should we fund the basis of the problem- TeaPartiers and their supporters who hate the President more than they love their own country? Why do we pay people entitlements who bitterly complain about OTHER people getting entitlements?
 
I'm for cutting Conservatives Social Security and Medicare during the shutdown, in addition to Congressional pay and expenses (sans staff salaries).

Why should we fund the basis of the problem- TeaPartiers and their supporters who hate the President more than they love their own country? Why do we pay people entitlements who bitterly complain about OTHER people getting entitlements?

Social Security is a RIGHT - its not social welfare - People paid into that account..

Also, MANY congressmen and woman are forfeiting their salaries... Hell, a lot of the tea party representatives refuse pay or any other perks generally provided by the taxpayers via government already.
 
I'm for cutting Conservatives Social Security and Medicare during the shutdown, in addition to Congressional pay and expenses (sans staff salaries).

Why should we fund the basis of the problem- TeaPartiers and their supporters who hate the President more than they love their own country? Why do we pay people entitlements who bitterly complain about OTHER people getting entitlements?

Your ignorance of history is staggering. The T.E.A. Party are patriots, not those evil people you and others want to make them out to be. Hating the President in your world is nothing but inflammatory rhetoric. Amazing how it was patriotic when Bush was in the WH
 
I'm for cutting Conservatives Social Security and Medicare during the shutdown, in addition to Congressional pay and expenses (sans staff salaries).

Why should we fund the basis of the problem- TeaPartiers and their supporters who hate the President more than they love their own country? Why do we pay people entitlements who bitterly complain about OTHER people getting entitlements?

The problem, or enlightenment of this post depending on how you look at it, is glaring....Progressive demo's like yourself are always using platitude, and talking point when speaking in general to the public such as...

The demo party is for:

Kids
Fairness
The poor
Women
Governing 'all the people'

etc...Insert here______________.

But in reality, we see with your posting that is really all a lie.
 
I'm for cutting Conservatives Social Security and Medicare during the shutdown, in addition to Congressional pay and expenses (sans staff salaries).

Why should we fund the basis of the problem- TeaPartiers and their supporters who hate the President more than they love their own country? Why do we pay people entitlements who bitterly complain about OTHER people getting entitlements?

Change the system. Oh, that's right the liberals threw a fit when Bush tried to just modify it. Your kind just won't allow it. Your theatrics fail.
 
What system did Bush try to modify?

GW Bush and conservatives have talked about modifying SS allowing younger workers to control part of their SS contributions but that would take away some of the slush fund that bureaucrats in D.C. use for their own personal gain
 
GW Bush and conservatives have talked about modifying SS allowing younger workers to control part of their SS contributions but that would take away some of the slush fund that bureaucrats in D.C. use for their own personal gain

Oh, that system. Putting a part of the SS funds into a private account would have been a good idea back in '65 or so when Johnson and his great society minions decided to put the SS "trust" into the general fund. The problem with doing it 40 or so years later is that there wouldn't be enough money to pay back the people who have already contributed to it.

For the Bush plan to have worked would have required either a huge decrease in spending, which no one from either party was willing to do, or a tax increase, which only the Democrats would be willing to even consider.
 
Social Security is a RIGHT - its not social welfare - People paid into that account..

Also, MANY congressmen and woman are forfeiting their salaries... Hell, a lot of the tea party representatives refuse pay or any other perks generally provided by the taxpayers via government already.
Besides Ron Paul, name them. Surely there's a list with details about the salary and perks they've officially rescinded.
 
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