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2 Islamic militants dead, more hostages freed in Nairobi mall terror attack

Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Gee, did I hurt your feelings?

How can an Internet guy hurt someone's feelings. What you said was stupid so there is no response.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Your defense of, and excuses for, the animals who perform such acts.

Edit: As shown in your post #118. Besides, you also claimed you didn't have anything to say to those of us who support the eradication of vermin - it would be nice if you would practice what you preach.

Post #18 does no such thing.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

It would be nice if American government would practice what it preaches. So we'll just each keep repeating ourselves. US policies in the ME have gone a long way to radicalize terrorists. Did it escape you that the current administration has supported radicals in Egypt, Libya and now Syria?

Terrorists are already 'radicalized' and don't need the US to move them along. Muslims have been murdering innocent people throughout the world during several US administrations. Even murdering Kenyans in Nairobi is, according to you, the fault of the Americans.

This chronicles their insanity quite well.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

How can an Internet guy hurt someone's feelings. What you said was stupid so there is no response.

You disagree with the remark while others agree.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

It would be nice if American government would practice what it preaches. So we'll just each keep repeating ourselves. US policies in the ME have gone a long way to radicalize terrorists. Did it escape you that the current administration has supported radicals in Egypt, Libya and now Syria?

That's a good point but Barrack Obama is hardly typical of US Presidents.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Terrorists are already 'radicalized' and don't need the US to move them along. Muslims have been murdering innocent people throughout the world during several US administrations. Even murdering Kenyans in Nairobi is, according to you, the fault of the Americans.

This chronicles their insanity quite well.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

No. According to THEM it is.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

That's a good point but Barrack Obama is hardly typical of US Presidents.

How single handedly do you suppose he's doing that?
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

As long as it takes to eradicate the Islamofacists. How long are you ready to stand still and do nothing, while innocent people die?

You cons don't mind when innocent people were being killed in Libya, Egypt, and Syria why act like you cons care now? In fact you cons criticized Obama for getting involved in what the cons called "not our problem".
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

You disagree with the remark while others agree.

That's funny.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

You cons don't mind when innocent people were being killed in Libya, Egypt, and Syria why act like you cons care now? In fact you cons criticized Obama for getting involved in what the cons called "not our problem".

We didn't? Post a link where I said I didn't care. Or, where I said, "not our problem".

I love how it's, "you cons", that are saying it's, "not our problem", but when Libbos say the same thing, you don't seem too critical of that. Partisan much?
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

We didn't? Post a link where I said I didn't care. Or, where I said, "not our problem".

I love how it's, "you cons", that are saying it's, "not our problem", but when Libbos say the same thing, you don't seem too critical of that. Partisan much?

So you were with Obama on Libya, Syria, and Egypt getting involved? Really? Show me those posts then. You Cons on this board have done NOTHING but criticize any involvment in those countries.

I can show you posts from your fellow cons like Wehr (hell he's created enough threads) about how Obama shouldn't get involved. Funny how that works doesn't it. Maybe you should start policiing your fellow Cons like you ask Muslims to do if you don't want to be associated with them.
 
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Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Condemning the Church is hardly condemning every practitioner of Catholicism, as you're doing with Islam. I'm a hard-liner against terrorism, but poverty and ignorance are more to blame for Islamic terrorism than the religion itself.

Poverty and ignorance aren't some special domain of Muslims and poverty and ignorance don't drive the members of OTHER religions to perform widespread murder and mayhem and random large-sale attacks on civilians in the name of their religion. There is no way to divorce Islam from this because Islam is the cause.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Poverty and ignorance aren't some special domain of Muslims and poverty and ignorance don't drive the members of OTHER religions to perform widespread murder and mayhem and random large-sale attacks on civilians in the name of their religion. There is no way to divorce Islam from this because Islam is the cause.

Oh, please. There have been plenty of instances of non-Islamic terrorism, even today: Hindu extremism in India and Kashmir, Christian fundamentalism in Africa (like Kony's LRA), Jewish terrorist groups in Mandatory Palestine. It might be interesting to note that in the Bosnian War the only faction that didn't participate in ethnic cleansing was the Bosnian Muslim faction.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

So you were with Obama on Libya, Syria, and Egypt getting involved? Really? Show me those posts then. You Cons on this board have done NOTHING but criticize any involvment in those countries.

I can show you posts from your fellow cons like Wehr (hell he's created enough threads) about how Obama shouldn't get involved. Funny how that works doesn't it. Maybe you should start policiing your fellow Cons like you ask Muslims to do if you don't want to be associated with them.

I'd generally be what you'd call a conservative and I fiercely supported the President on his decision to launch US involvement in Libya and his proposed action in Syria as well as criticized him for his slow reaction in Bahrain and Egypt (and before the intervention Libya). Nor was I alone. The foreign policy dichotomy within both parties right now is gaping and it is increasingly difficult to characterize a person or political figure as 'conservative' or 'liberal' on foreign policy given how varied it has become.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

How single handedly do you suppose he's doing that?

How single-handedly is he doing what? You may not be responding to the appropriate post.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Oh, please. There have been plenty of instances of non-Islamic terrorism, even today: Hindu extremism in India and Kashmir, Christian fundamentalism in Africa (like Kony's LRA), Jewish terrorist groups in Mandatory Palestine. It might be interesting to note that in the Bosnian War the only faction that didn't participate in ethnic cleansing was the Bosnian Muslim faction.

Maybe some perspective is needed. Islamic terrorists are murdering more people than any other group in the world.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Maybe some perspective is needed. Islamic terrorists are murdering more people than any other group in the world.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Really, now?

Bosnia: 33,071 deaths in Bosnia as a result of war by Catholic Croatians and Orthodox Serbs - 8,489 deaths considered to be genocide internationally.

Kosovo: as many as 10,533 ethnic Albanians killed by Orthodox Serbs

Rwanda: over 500,000 killed; the genocidaires were backed by the Catholic Church

Uganda: 65,000 killed by the Christian LRA
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Really, now?

Bosnia: 33,071 deaths in Bosnia as a result of war by Catholic Croatians and Orthodox Serbs - 8,489 deaths considered to be genocide internationally.

Kosovo: as many as 10,533 ethnic Albanians killed by Orthodox Serbs

Rwanda: over 500,000 killed; the genocidaires were backed by the Catholic Church

Uganda: 65,000 killed by the Christian LRA

Do you have supporting documentation?

I'd be really interested to learn, for example, of the genocide in Rwanda being backed by the Catholic Church.
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Do you have supporting documentation?
I found it on Wikipedia, but each stat had an inline citation to support it. The Kosovo number is a max and the Rwanda number is a HRW claim.

Why should I automatically believe your link?
I'd be really interested to learn, for example, of the genocide in Rwanda being backed by the Catholic Church.

For any practising Catholic in Rwanda, this letter must be unbearable. For it tells you how little you mean to the Vatican. Fifteen years ago, tens of thousands of Catholics were hacked to death inside churches. Sometimes priests and nuns led the slaughter. Sometimes they did nothing while it progressed. The incidents were not isolated. Nyamata, Ntarama, Nyarubuye, Cyahinda, Nyange, and Saint Famille were just a few of the churches that were sites of massacres.

To you, Catholic survivor of genocide in Rwanda, the Vatican says that those priests, those bishops, those nuns, those archbishops who planned and killed were not acting under the instruction of the church. But moral responsibility changes dramatically if you are a European or US Catholic. To the priests of the Irish church who abused children, the pope has this to say: "You must answer for it before almighty God and before properly constituted tribunals. You have forfeited the esteem of the people of Ireland and brought shame and dishonour upon your confreres."

The losses of Rwanda had received no such consideration. Some of the nuns and priests who have been convicted by Belgian courts and the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, respectively, enjoyed refuge in Catholic churches in Europe while on the run from prosecutors. One such is Father Athanase Seromba, who led the Nyange parish massacre and was sentenced to 15 years in jail by the tribunal. In April 1994, Seromba helped lure over 2,000 desperate men, women and children to his church, where they expected safety. But their shepherd turned out to be their hunter.

One evening Seromba entered the church and carried away the chalices of communion and other clerical vestments. When a refugee begged that they be left the Eucharist to enable them to at least hold a (final) mass, the priest refused and told them that the building was no longer a church. A witness at the ICTR trial remembered an exchange in which the priest's mindset was revealed.

For Rwandans, the pope's apology must be unbearable | Martin Kimani | Comment is free | The Guardian

If I'm not mistaken, Catholic radio waves in Rwanda were used to promote "Hutu power."
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

Really, now?

Bosnia: 33,071 deaths in Bosnia as a result of war by Catholic Croatians and Orthodox Serbs - 8,489 deaths considered to be genocide internationally.
Were these Catholic Croatians fighting under the banner of the Catholic Church or did some of them just happen to be Catholic?

Kosovo: as many as 10,533 ethnic Albanians killed by Orthodox Serbs.
Do you have a link to this?

Rwanda: over 500,000 killed; the genocidaires were backed by the Catholic Church.
Hardly backed by the Catholic Church. Ex-priest jailed for Rwanda genocide - World news - Africa | NBC News

Uganda: 65,000 killed by the Christian LRA
Here's the skinny on the Lord's Resistance Army, and not killed by Christians as you claim Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

And the US will use any pretext to fight. The Nueces versus Rio Grande, the US'S Maine, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbour, the gulf of Tonkin, the Iraqi/Kuwait invasion, 9/11, the 'Arab Spring'

Pearl Harbor? The Iraqi/Kuwait invasion? Look I'm right there with you with America getting in other people's faces but Pearl Harbor was a matter of self-defense and Kuwait was an American ally and we had a treaty to defend Kuwait.

Pearl Harbor was nothing even close to a Muslim nation declaring "you drew a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb on his head, therefore we are going to war!"
 
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