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Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists



I showed you evidence that the rebels have SSMs generally, but of course, ignore it. I will show you again.

Reported August 23, 2013:

"The Free Syrian Army - as well as the Al-Qaeda affiliated al-Nusra Front and other groups - have also been using increasingly potent captured artillery. This has included Grad surface-to-surface rockets analysts say were vital to the Islamist-led push into Latakia." (Syria government, rebels ramp up conventional weapons use | Reuters)'


Reported in July 2013:

"These antiaircraft, antitank, and surface-to-surface weapons are in the hands of both the Free Syrian Army (FSA), which is considered relatively moderate, and the local and global Islamist forces, and are being used to combat aircraft, armored vehicles, and regime bases." (Syrian Rebels Developing Rocket, Missile Capabilities To Combat Aircraft, Tanks, And Ground Targets
 
They also confirmed the type of rocket, which the rebels do not posses and do not have the training and ability to use.

They also confirmed the trajectories, coming from Assad controlled Damascus.

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Everybody knows this.

The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.

The report talked about SSMs generally, just look at that quote that I gave you from the report. Like I said, I will check the appendixes.
 
I showed you evidence that the rebels have SSMs generally, but of course, ignore it. I will show you again.

I'm not ignoring it. Everybody knows rebels have some types of surface to surface rockets (missiles were not used in Damascus).

The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.
 
They also confirmed the type of rocket, which the rebels do not posses and do not have the training and ability to use.

They also confirmed the trajectories, coming from Assad controlled Damascus.

What do you have to gain if the US attacks Syria as you clearly want to see happen?
 
Everybody knows this.

The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.

And your still ignoring all the AP reports to the contrary.
 
call me a skeptic but how did they get this data? Was their a cenus done on the ground? Did it come with multiple choice questions? Generally when asked if you are a hardline islamic terrorist I imagine you don't say yes....
 
And your still ignoring all the AP reports to the contrary.

The AP reports say the rebels have rockets in general.

The rebels do not have the rockets used in Damascus, nor the training or ability to use those types of surface-to-surface rockets.

You are ignoring the specifics of the UN report.
 
What do you have to gain if the US attacks Syria as you clearly want to see happen?

A democratic transition government in Syria, supported by the UN, foreign aid and development projects. Instead of Assad spending all of the money on bombs intended for civilians.
 
The report talked about SSMs generally, just look at that quote that I gave you from the report. Like I said, I will check the appendixes.

Get your facts straight:


The team did identify two types or rockets it said were used to deliver the gas and their trajectories, and international observers have said those weapons are not known to be in the hands of rebels battling the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
'War crime': U.N. finds sarin used in Syria chemical weapons attack - CNN.com


While the report’s authors did not assign blame for the attack on the outskirts of Damascus, the details it documented included the large size and particular shape of the munitions and the precise direction from which two of them had been fired. Taken together, that information appeared to undercut arguments by President Bashar al-Assad of Syria that rebel forces, who are not known to possess such weapons or the training or ability to use them, had been responsible.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/world/europe/syria-united-nations.html
 
A democratic transition government in Syria, supported by the UN, foreign aid and development projects. Instead of Assad spending all of the money on bombs intended for civilians.

Yes of course, models like Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya. Ok I understand now.
 
Yes of course, models like Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya. Ok I understand now.

Egypt does not belong in that group.


While those countries that did receive Western military intervention and UN support of a transitional government are not controlled by terrorists (Afghan, Iraq, Libya and Somalia), those that did not receive Western military intervention and UN supported transitional democratic governments are struggling to keep terrorists from control (Egypt and Tunisia).

That is a strong argument for Western military intervention and UN supported transitional democratic governments.
 
I quoted directly from the report! Directly from it. In the report, it clearly only talks about SSMs.

Did you even read the report?

You know more than CNN and the NYT. Those news organizations are obviously lying, and only you know the real truth.


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Missiles were not even used in Damascus, rockets were.
 
You know more than CNN and the NYT. Those news sources are obviously lying, and only you know the real truth.


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Missiles were not even used in Damascus, rockets were.

Keep ignoring the fact that I quoted directly from the report.
 
Keep ignoring the fact that I quoted directly from the report.

A general mention of rockets (missiles, you claim) in the report was not all that was revealed within it, unless CNN and the NYT is lying.

Once again, missiles were not used in Damascus. It was rockets. (to my knowledge)


Are you presenting the wrong report?
 
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A general mention of rockets in the report was not all that was revealed within it, unless CNN and the NYT is lying.

Once again, missiles were not used in Damascus. It was rockets. (to my knowledge)


Are you presenting the wrong report?

I am not presenting the wrong report. I read the damn thing and even gave you a quote from it. Like I said, I will check the appendixes.
 
You know more than CNN and the NYT. Those news organizations are obviously lying, and only you know the real truth.


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Missiles were not even used in Damascus, rockets were.


its also worth pointing out if Assad was innocent of firing chemcial weapons why would he give them up so easy to the international community? According to posters in here the chemical weapons were fired by the rebels, so why would Assad give up his weapons when his enemy are firing WMD'S at him?


Massive admission of guilt.
 
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I am not presenting the wrong report. I read the damn thing and even gave you a quote from it. Like I said, I will check the appendixes.

So, you didn't read the whole thing. And based on your partial reading, you claim CNN and the NYT is lying (and would easily be shown to be doing so).


That's absurd.
 
Egypt does not belong in that group.


While those countries that did receive Western military intervention and UN support of a transitional government are not controlled by terrorists (Afghan, Iraq, Libya and Somalia), those that did not receive Western military intervention and UN supported transitional democratic governments are struggling to keep terrorists from control (Egypt and Tunisia).

That is a strong argument for Western military intervention and UN supported transitional democratic governments.

I think you need to take another look at conditions in all those countries post US interference. The US has helped nothing.
 
So, you didn't read the whole thing. And based on your partial reading, you claim CNN and the NYT is lying (and would easily be shown to be doing so).


That's absurd.

I never claimed NYT or CNN was lying. Do yourself a favor and stop putting words in people's mouths.
 
I never claimed NYT or CNN was lying. Do yourself a favor and stop putting words in people's mouths.

You are claiming they are lying. I've presented articles from them, from today, that claim specific rocket types were identified by the UN report and that the rebels are not known to have them or the training or ability to use them.
 
its also worth pointing out if Assad was innocent of firing chemcial weapons why would he give them up so easy to the international community? According to posters in here the chemical weapons were fired by the rebels, so why would Assad give up his weapons when his enemy his firing WMD'S at him?


Massive admission of guilt.

Not really. Now your saying that chemical weapons were fired at Assad's forces! Russia is the deciding factor behind president Assad turning over chemical weapons. He doesn't need them anyway and can't maintain Chinese and Russian support if he used them.
 
You are claiming they are lying. I've presented articles from them, from today, that claim specific rocket types were identified by the UN report and that the rebels are not known to have them or the training or ability to use them.

Wanna find a quote where I said they were lying?
 
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