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Miss America crowns 1st winner of Indian descent; racist tweets flow [W:216]

P. Kersey said:
Human beings in every culture (who aren't mentally ill) are all ethnic and tribal. They prefer their own kind.
That's how the real world works.
Lately, those natural human traits have been used as an excuse to call people "racists" and marginalize them.
It's just a weak, overused political tactic and people are beginning to see through it.
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So that's the reason for all the Obama bashing.
 
RDS said:
You understand English don't you.
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Would that be the Queens English, traditional American English, Ebonics or liberal political correctness English where the definition of words can be changed at a whim to further a political agenda ?
 
Can't I just objectify women in peace without you people dragging racial politics into it?

Anyone who claims they'd throw Miss America out of bed for eating crackers is lying or gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
Medusa said:
l am usually accused of being prejudiced against whites or hating them although l am not black :lol:

maybe it is because l am a little darker .

l still dont know what kind of white they refer to
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Those who accuse you have been indocernated by liberal revisionist history, just as communist in Turkey have used revisionist history to indocernat Turks.

Before the radical left adopted revisionist history as a tactic to dumb down Americans and divide, those of us who escaped being dumbed down were taught how Turkey played is significant role of settling the American West and their connections with the U.S. Calvery during the pre American Civil War.

Those of us who weren't exposed to liberal revisionist history remember who those Turks were and especially Hadji Ali, known by most informed Americans as "Hi Jolly."

But that was back before socialist/progressives would proclaim that Turks were no longer were to be consider to be whites.

Even though the last confirmed sighting of a camel in the Mojave Desert was during the late 1950's, there are still those operating meth labs in the Twenty Nine Palms area reporting seeing a camel off in the distance.
 
APACHERAT said:
Those who accuse you have been indocernated by liberal revisionist history, just as communist in Turkey have used revisionist history to indocernat Turks.

Before the radical left adopted revisionist history as a tactic to dumb down Americans and divide, those of us who escaped being dumbed down were taught how Turkey played is significant role of settling the American West and their connections with the U.S. Calvery during the pre American Civil War.

Those of us who weren't exposed to liberal revisionist history remember who those Turks were and especially Hadji Ali, known by most informed Americans as "Hi Jolly."

But that was back before socialist/progressives would proclaim that Turks were no longer were to be consider to be whites.

Even though the last confirmed sighting of a camel in the Mojave Desert was during the late 1950's, there are still those operating meth labs in the Twenty Nine Palms area reporting seeing a camel off in the distance.
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Is there ANYTHING you won't attempt to pin on the "radical left"? Seriously, your entire post is pure garbage.

The fact that you preface everything you don't like with "liberal" tells me all I need to know about you.
 
P. Kersey said:
It isn't debatable and this isn't a debate.
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Indeed, it isn't debatable because appealing to nature is a logically fallacy. But this is indeed a debate.

You Play rhetorical word games all you like. It's a fact that humans are a tribal animal.
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Right, but that would not justify or excuse your racism. See the appeal to nature fallacy

What specifically do you mean by the phrase "justify my racism"?
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Well, you original post seems an affirmative defense of racism and bigotry and the bigoted and racist comments leveled at the Miss America winner. Which was "well, people are naturally like that"
 
Kobie said:
Is there ANYTHING you won't attempt to pin on the "radical left"? Seriously, your entire post is pure garbage.

The fact that you preface everything you don't like with "liberal" tells me all I need to know about you.
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Are you claiming that there never was a Hi Jolly who was responsible of organizing the U.S. Calvary Camel Corps ? So Fort Taejon and all of those old Army forts and camps in the Mojave and Sonoran Deserts are nothing but mirages ? That's what liberal revisionist history has been teaching.
 
APACHERAT said:
Are you claiming that there never was a Hi Jolly who was responsible of organizing the U.S. Calvary Camel Corps ? So Fort Taejon and all of those old Army forts and camps in the Mojave and Sonoran Deserts are nothing but mirages ? That's what liberal revisionist history has been teaching.
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I never claimed anything of the sort.

I was simply pointing out your obvious propensity for blaming anything you don't like on the alleged "liberal revisionist history," "radical left," or any of the other nonsensical terms you throw around.

I don't like you.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Indeed, it isn't debatable because appealing to nature is a logically fallacy. But this is indeed a debate.
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Lions and hyenas don't hang out together. That is a natural fact and isn't debatable.
Cat's kill mice. Natural fact. Not debatable.


Dr. Chuckles said:
Right, but that would not justify or excuse your racism. See the appeal to nature fallacy
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Ok.Ok...I get it..you just learned about "logical fallacies" and are trying to figure out ways to accuse me of using them as a way to support to your weak premise...It's like calling someone a "racist" because they notice differences in the races.

"...my racism"? What specifically are you talking about? You like to keep using that word when referring to me...give an example of my "racism".





Dr. Chuckles said:
Well, you original post seems an affirmative defense of racism and bigotry and the bigoted and racist comments leveled at the Miss America winner. Which was "well, people are naturally like that"
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I never said any such thing. You invented that out of thin air.

I said humans are ethnic and tribal animals and that's how the real world works. Now..if you can refute that statement, go ahead...but cobbling together out of context words and then supplying your own interpretations just isn't working.
 
APACHERAT said:
Would that be the Queens English, traditional American English, Ebonics or liberal political correctness English where the definition of words can be changed at a whim to further a political agenda ?
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You wingnuts have so abused and misused this phrase that it has lost any and all meaning.
 
P. Kersey said:
I said humans are ethnic and tribal animals and that's how the real world works. Now..if you can refute that statement, go ahead...but cobbling together out of context words and then supplying your own interpretations just isn't working.
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Earlier you wrote:
P. Kersey said:
Play rhetorical word games all you like. It's a fact that humans are a tribal animal.
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My reply was:
Dr. Chuckles said:
Right, but that would not justify or excuse your racism. See the appeal to nature fallacy
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As in: while people are naturally inclined to be clannish, that inclination does not justify such behavior. Which was your argument: the racism and bigotry cited in the OP is a natural characteristic of the human species, therefore, OK.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
As in: while people are naturally inclined to be clannish, that inclination does not justify such behavior. Which was your argument: the racism and bigotry cited in the OP is a natural characteristic of the human species, therefore, OK.
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Humans are naturally inclined to do dishonest things, too, but my noticing it does not imply approval....but you did get to throw in the obligatory "call someone a racist" trick and that's apparently the important thing.

So...it's resolved; Humans are a tribal and ethnic animal. They prefer their own kind.
 
P. Kersey said:
Humans are naturally inclined to do dishonest things, too, but my noticing it does not imply approval.
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Your original post does more than simply point out the phenomenon, and also attempts to justify it by berating attempts to "marginalize" the behavior. Clearly you think it is justified and defensible

P. Kersey said:
Human beings in every culture (who aren't mentally ill) are all ethnic and tribal. They prefer their own kind.
That's how the real world works.
Lately, those natural human traits have been used as an excuse to call people "racists" and marginalize them.
It's just a weak, overused political tactic and people are beginning to see through it.
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Your original post does more than simply point out the phenomenon, and also attempts to justify it by berating attempts to "marginalize" the behavior. Clearly you think it is justified and defensible
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No. You're wrong.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Well, it certainly reads that way. If you're saying that is not the case, then i'll take your word for it
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Humans are flawed in myriads of ways.
They always have been.
They always will be.
Humans are tribal and ethnic. ALL of them.
They always have been and they always will be.
Because those things are true doesn't mean I endorse bad behavior but it also doesn't mean that preferring your own tribe or ethnic group is "wrong" or "bad".
Some people like to make up words like "racist" to disparage people who acknowledge those facts.
 
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