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Pa. judge orders end to same-sex marriage licenses

Navy Pride said:
Please name the 3 states that a judge overturned their constitutional amendment?
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Have any beven been appealed yet? Constitutional amendments can be ruled to be in violation of other parts of the Constitution.

I would opine that using the 'reason' something won't be done is that it has never been done before indicates a very closed mind.

We live in interesting times... and Navy I do hope you live for another decade... :2wave:
 
notquiteright said:
Have any beven been appealed yet? Constitutional amendments can be ruled to be in violation of other parts of the Constitution.

I would opine that using the 'reason' something won't be done is that it has never been done before indicates a very closed mind.

We live in interesting times... and Navy I do hope you live for another decade... :2wave:
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How can something be unconstitutional if it is in the constitution? It clearly can't be. When provisions seem to be in conflict, they are interpreted in a way that does not make them in conflict.
 
Navy Pride said:
Please name the 3 states that a judge overturned their constitutional amendment?
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Iowa Varnum v. Brien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Connecticut Kerrigan v. Commissioner of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Massachusetts Goodridge v. Department of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

were all state supreme court cases that ruled in favor of gay rights based on equality and discrimination

also California now too Hollingsworth v. Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just more proof of how severely uneducated you are on this topic, once again your post fails
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think they wil do about the 37 states that have constitutional amendments banning it....You got all your going to get my left wing friend....live with it.
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State constitutional amendments may be held to be in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Just a little civics lesson for you.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think they will do about the 37 states that have constitutional amendments banning it....You got all your going to get my left wing friend....live with it.
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push those issues to the courts where they have lost 4 times and the bannings have been found unconstitutional
 
sbrettt said:
I think he was doing what he thought was the right think to do. Laws do not always get the last say in what's morally right.
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They get the last say in what's legally right.

If you shoot and kill a child molester, you're still probably going to jail.
 
digsbe said:
If SSM isn't legal in PA the clerk shouldn't issue certificates :shrug:
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this is correct, he should not be doing this.
 
AGENT J said:
Iowa Varnum v. Brien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Connecticut Kerrigan v. Commissioner of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Massachusetts Goodridge v. Department of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

were all state supreme court cases that ruled in favor of gay rights based on equality and discrimination

also California now too Hollingsworth v. Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just more proof of how severely uneducated you are on this topic, once again your post fails
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Just name the 3 states and the link where their constitutional amendment was thrown out............Thanks
 
Navy Pride said:
Not in your life time my left wing friend. The SCOTUS will not touch states the have a constitutional banning SSM.
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LOL...you said the same thing about gay marriage in general, DADT and a whole handful of other issues. Face the facts old man....gay marriage will be the law of the land, probably even within your lifetime. Those state contitutional bans will mean nothing when the SCOTUS takes up the issue and rules definitively that gay marriage bans violate the United States Constitution. Scalia sees it coming...why do you think his dissent was so vitrolic?
 
AGENT J said:
push those issues to the courts where they have lost 4 times and the bannings have been found unconstitutional
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Were the people have spoken they have never lost. Only with activist judges do they ever win
 
disneydude said:
LOL...you said the same thing about gay marriage in general, DADT and a whole handful of other issues. Face the facts old man....gay marriage will be the law of the land, probably even within your lifetime. Those state contitutional bans will mean nothing when the SCOTUS takes up the issue and rules definitively that gay marriage bans violate the United States Constitution. Scalia sees it coming...why do you think his dissent was so vitrolic?
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2 words, Constitutional amendment............
 
Wiggen said:
State constitutional amendments may be held to be in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Just a little civics lesson for you.
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The SCOTUS would not touch a state constitutional amendment with a 10 foot poll.
 
disneydude said:
LOL...you said the same thing about gay marriage in general, DADT and a whole handful of other issues. Face the facts old man....gay marriage will be the law of the land, probably even within your lifetime. Those state contitutional bans will mean nothing when the SCOTUS takes up the issue and rules definitively that gay marriage bans violate the United States Constitution. Scalia sees it coming...why do you think his dissent was so vitrolic?
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If you're lucky, you'll end an old man, too. With much more wisdom than you have now. It is difficult for some older Americans to accept the changes they've seen in their lifetime. This somehow surprises you???? You will find the same someday. Hopefully, you will be respected and taken seriously when you object to the social change YOU are bound to see in YOUR lifetime.

And, hopefully, someone will not attempt to denigrate your thoughts by calling YOU "Old Man."

Harumpf.
 
notquiteright said:
Have any beven been appealed yet? Constitutional amendments can be ruled to be in violation of other parts of the Constitution.

I would opine that using the 'reason' something won't be done is that it has never been done before indicates a very closed mind.

We live in interesting times... and Navy I do hope you live for another decade... :2wave:
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This country is going to hell in a hand basket but it will never sink as low as you want it to. There are still a lot of God Fearing people out there who believe that the sexual act Gays indulge is and abomination.
 
Navy Pride said:
Just name the 3 states and the link where their constitutional amendment was thrown out............Thanks
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AGENT J said:
Iowa [/B]Varnum v. Brien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Connecticut Kerrigan v. Commissioner of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Massachusetts Goodridge v. Department of Public Health - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

were all state supreme court cases that ruled in favor of gay rights based on equality and discrimination

also California now too Hollingsworth v. Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just more proof of how severely uneducated you are on this topic, once again your post fails
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you're welcome
 
MaggieD said:
If you're lucky, you'll end an old man, too. With much more wisdom than you have now. It is difficult for some older Americans to accept the changes they've seen in their lifetime. This somehow surprises you???? You will find the same someday. Hopefully, you will be respected and taken seriously when you object to the social change YOU are bound to see in YOUR lifetime.And, hopefully, someone will not attempt to denigrate your thoughts by calling YOU "Old Man."Harumpf.
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There are a lot of older Americans who are not bigoted and who have accepted social change. Its called education and tolerance.
 
Wiggen said:
How can something be unconstitutional if it is in the constitution? It clearly can't be. When provisions seem to be in conflict, they are interpreted in a way that does not make them in conflict.
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Yes it can be unconstitutional and in a STATE constitution because no constitutional amendment has to stand Judicial scrutiny BEFORE it is ratified. Our judicial system rests on an injured party bringing a case before the Court.

The SSM marriage ban/definition as one man/one woman could be seen under judical review as violating the equal treatment under the law provision. How could the SSM ban still remain?
 
Navy Pride said:
Were the people have spoken they have never lost. Only with activist judges do they ever win
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wrong AGAIN has usual my several about equal rights friend

equal rights for gays was passed in MAINE when left up to the people
Maine Question 1, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you lose again
wow you know absolutely NOTHING equal rights and this topic

not to mention none of that matters
75% of the country was against interracial marriage when it was decided in loving vs Virginia when equlity won and discrimination lost. Like i said i hope you are here in 10 year to the see the next eqaulty victory!
 
Navy Pride said:
The SCOTUS would not touch a state constitutional amendment with a 10 foot poll.
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They wont have to. Even the GOP sees the writing on the wall here.
 
And PROGRESS---IVE. They just can't handle that word. I give thanks to my Creator most every day for T. Roosevelt and W. J. Bryan, the architects of Progress----ivism and saving our National Parks from the first GOP Gilded Age. Today we're in the 2nd Gilded.
disneydude said:
There are a lot of older Americans who are not bigoted and who have accepted social change. Its called education and tolerance.
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Navy Pride said:
Were the people have spoken they have never lost. Only with activist judges do they ever win
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In the 2012 election, the anti-SSM crowd lost every ballot measure.

Opinions on this have shifted every year towards equality.

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It is inevitable.
 
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disneydude said:
There are a lot of older Americans who are not bigoted and who have accepted social change. Its called education and tolerance.
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so very true
 
disneydude said:
There are a lot of older Americans who are not bigoted and who have accepted social change. Its called education and tolerance.
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What's your point? That it's okay to be rude to those who don't fall in line with DISNEYdude?
 
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