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Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase [W:68]

Sure, let's do it for civilians too since your sexual assault rate is higher that ours. How about that?

How about not. We're not paying civilians to represent us. Then again, the Navy hasn't been much use except to serve as glorified bus drivers since WWII.

Do you know how to read? I said keep women off combatants at sea.

Of course I know how to read, but apparently your ilk don't know how to keep their pants zipped and their hands off women. That is the topic of discussion.
 
How about not. We're not paying civilians to represent us. Then again, the Navy hasn't been much use except to serve as glorified bus drivers since WWII.



Of course I know how to read, but apparently your ilk don't know how to keep their pants zipped and their hands off women. That is the topic of discussion.
If you can then what does your response have to do with women serving on combatants at sea have to do with it?
 
How about not. We're not paying civilians to represent us. Then again, the Navy hasn't been much use except to serve as glorified bus drivers sinceWWII.
We're not paid to represent you. We're paid to fight for you. I could care less what I look like to you or any other civilian.
Also, your comments about the Navy further my opinion that you have no idea what the military is doing currently in our world.
 
I told all you "feel Good" Liberals a long time ago that women serving on Navy combatants at sea would never work....Its really the tip of the iceberg.



Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase - ABC News





NORFOLK, Va. September 11, 2013 (AP)

By BROCK VERGAKIS Associated Press




Associated Press



The number of sexual assaults reported to the Navy has grown by about 50 percent in the past year, which Navy officials said Wednesday is a sign that a growing number of sailors feel more comfortable reporting an assault and believe something will be done about it when they do.

The Navy said it is on pace to end the 2013 fiscal year later this month with about 1,100 reports of sexual assault. That's up from the 726 sexual assaults reported in the previous fiscal year

It's the Navy, nothing in the article mentioned that it was women being sexually assaulted. Wouldn't that be against Navy tradition?
 
We're not paid to represent you. We're paid to fight for you. I could care less what I look like to you or any other civilian.
Also, your comments about the Navy further my opinion that you have no idea what the military is doing currently in our world.
He does not realize that our soldiers, sailors and marines are the ones dying so he can run his hateful mouth.
 
It's the Navy, nothing in the article mentioned that it was women being sexually assaulted. Wouldn't that be against Navy tradition?

726 sexual assaults total against both sexes.
 
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You miss the point, he claims to blame no one and then blames the Liberals... :roll:

Yeah those bad ol' 'liberals' pushing to end separate race based units in the military. Pushing to end the prosecution of gays in the military- they have served proudly and honorably for centuries. Now to allow women the chance to advance in a career field that includes duty at sea. What would the Cons have the Navy do, keep the females on shore typing and being nurses? :roll:

The excuse a woman can unbutton a few buttons or wear a 'Polly push-up bra' and gain career favor attacks the NCO corps of the Navy. It says the Navy lacks the basic professionalism and basic discipline needed if war was to break out. (It also ignores the brown noser male trying to curry favor)

Doesn't fly.... or perhaps a better term... doesn't swim....

1. You may be missing a key link; it might very well be that he doesn't blame anyone, it's just that for him "liberals" aren't "people". Which would make sense - what with your constant American-flag-burning and freedom-hating, you wouldn't have much time left to be a regular sort of folk. :)

2. Plenty of women in the military do flirt with superiors, and some (a smaller number) make themselves available in other venues in order to get promoted. To an extent its just a natural extension of the typical older-man-younger-woman dynamic; as kissinger pointed out, power is an aphrodisiac, and being in a superior position in the military comes with power not mirrored in the civilian world. I don't know if that's an attack on the NCO corps, SNCO's are just as guilty (they have more power).
 
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1. You may be missing a key link; it might very well be that he doesn't blame anyone, it's just that for him "liberals" aren't "people". Which would make sense - what with your constant American-flag-burning and freedom-hating, you wouldn't have much time left to be a regular sort of folk. :)

2. Plenty of women in the military do flirt with superiors, and some (a smaller number) make themselves available in other venues in order to get promoted. To an extent its just a natural extension of the typical older-man-younger-woman dynamic; as kissinger pointed out, power is an aphrodisiac, and being in a superior position in the military comes with power not mirrored in the civilian world. I don't know if that's an attack on the NCO corps, SNCO's are just as guilty (they have more power).

Anyone thinking Liberals are not people is delusional, I suppose some wish to live in that world. Some will make excuses, no matter how weak I suppose. (It is funny when someone drags in an instance of Cons behaving badly so many cons distance themselves from that lunatic, but are quick to clump all 'liberals' as flag burners and freedom hating.. :roll:

Back in my day it was just the NCO corps- we made no distinction between Senior and the rest of us, and I think you know that. But what you are saying is because a small group- one you can't quantify- supposedly engages in sexual activities to gain rank it should be held against the group- more of that all liberals burn flags and hate freedom crap I see. :doh

Are you claiming that the basic discipline and professionalism of the current crop of NCOs and that includes SNCOs is substandard and women are gaining rank due to sex?

Course those same 'superiors' can also lord it over men as well. And again you seem to ignore the brown nosing men who try and curry favor for a fast track.

So it seems a poor NCO corps causes problems.... is there a news flash in that??? :confused:
 
Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase

Lets get one thing straight. I blame Liberals for pushing social experimentation in our Navy. Good men and women are being ruined for that.
 
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Lets get one thing straight. I blame Liberals for pushing social experimentation in our Navy. Good men and women are being ruined for that.

Good men and women don't engage in sexual assault. Hold those who do accountable. Don't blame others.
 
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Sorry that you have a comprehension problem.

Should I have thrown in progressive ?

Sorry that you have no ability to communicate or debate effectively. Fear not, though. I'll point this out to remind you whenever necessary.
 
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Your response is just more evidence that libs are all in lockstep and descent is forbidden.

Your response is just evidence that cons like you have no ability to understand issues.
 
Do you know how to read? I said keep women off combatants at sea.

Considering that the Obama administration has reclassified hospital ships, coastal craft and garbage scows as being part of the Navy's combat fleet to make Obama's Navy appear larger than it really is, women may be restricted to motor launches.
 
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Lets get one thing straight. I blame Liberals for pushing social experimentation in our Navy. Good men and women are being ruined for that.

What's your solution to the problem Navy?

Regress, and stop women from being able to serve their country?

Or work to stop rapes in the military by punishing perpetrators and better screening recruits for a predisposition to such behaviour?
 
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It has been covered up until now.....726 sexual assaults in the Navy alone last year is not chicken feed.

Actually, compared to the rest of the country, it really is very, very small. That is 0.22% of the Navy that has been sexually assaulted. Most of these assaults actually occur when the person is home, in port, not on the actual ship. According to RAINN, there is a person sexually assaulted every 2 min in the US, whereas in the Navy, it really would only be about two every day. And that wouldn't even all be from shipmates, let alone on the actual ships. Plus, sexual assaults happened onboard ships prior to women being allowed on those ships. Men can be sexually assaulted by men, including men who are straight and simply "messing" with their shipmates or hazing.
 
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Lets get one thing straight. I blame Liberals for pushing social experimentation in our Navy. Good men and women are being ruined for that.

Whether in the Navy or not, women and men alike both take the chance of being sexually assaulted, regardless of their military service status. They are in fact more likely to be assaulted, statistically, as a civilian, by a civilian. So stop pretending that this is something about allowing women onboard ships, and admit that humans are human and they unfortunately do horrible things to each other, regardless of where they are.
 
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What's your solution to the problem Navy?

Regress, and stop women from being able to serve their country?

Or work to stop rapes in the military by punishing perpetrators and better screening recruits for a predisposition to such behaviour?
My solution is to keep women off Navy combatants or make all female crews which is not realistic.
 
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Whether in the Navy or not, women and men alike both take the chance of being sexually assaulted, regardless of their military service status. They are in fact more likely to be assaulted, statistically, as a civilian, by a civilian. So stop pretending that this is something about allowing women onboard ships, and admit that humans are human and they unfortunately do horrible things to each other, regardless of where they are.

Its been awhile but still the rose colored glasses huh?
 
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Actually Plus, sexual assaults happened onboard ships prior to women being allowed on those ships. Men can be sexually assaulted by men, including men who are straight and simply "messing" with their shipmates or hazing.



I've heard more than a few stories of gay sailors being thrown overboard off of Okinawa and the PI's.

I was a Marine but I was aboard a number of USN ships, mostly Essex class carriers that were used as LPH's and County class LSD's. These ships were built for only one purpose, to fight battles at sea. There was no consideration of providing any comfort when these ships were built. Squad bays with 200 Marines or sailors with racks stacked four high. No such thing as toilet stall or shower stalls. Gang showers what they were called. And if any one was caught eye ####### someone he either disappeared by morning muster or if he was lucky he ended up in sickbay saying he ran into a hatchway.

When ashore watching your buddy's six wasn't thinking about anally sodomizing him but making sure that Charley didn't kill him.

I think rougenuke that Navypride can compare todays PC Navy with the fighting navy of the past. Are you able to do the same ?

When the Secretary of Defense (Hagel) tells the U.S. military that it's main mission today is fighting sexual assaults, we have a problem. That's not the mission of the Navy, Marine Corps, Army or Air Force.
When did this problem began ? What was responsible for causing this problem in the first place ? Lets go back and look when there was no problem.

When liberals use the U.S. military for social engineering experimentation are they that stupid not to think things through asking what will be the consequences be ? Yes they are that stupid.

I though after McNamara's "Moron Brigade" and the consequences of that social engineering experiment and looking at the consequences when you look at the thousand names on that "Wall" that should have never been on that wall, liberals would have stopped using the military for social engineering.

Join todays PC Navy and fight sexual assaults.
 
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I've heard more than a few stories of gay sailors being thrown overboard off of Okinawa and the PI's.

I was a Marine but I was aboard a number of USN ships, mostly Essex class carriers that were used as LPH's and County class LSD's. These ships were built for only one purpose, to fight battles at sea. There was no consideration of providing any comfort when these ships were built. Squad bays with 200 Marines or sailors with racks stacked four high. No such thing as toilet stall or shower stalls. Gang showers what they were called. And if any one was caught eye ####### someone he either disappeared by morning muster or if he was lucky he ended up in sickbay saying he ran into a hatchway.

When ashore watching your buddy's six wasn't thinking about anally sodomizing him but making sure that Charley didn't kill him.

I think rougenuke that Navypride can compare todays PC Navy with the fighting navy of the past. Are you able to do the same ?

When the Secretary of Defense (Hagel) tells the U.S. military that it's main mission today is fighting sexual assaults, we have a problem. That's not the mission of the Navy, Marine Corps, Army or Air Force.
When did this problem began ? What was responsible for causing this problem in the first place ? Lets go back and look when there was no problem.

When liberals use the U.S. military for social engineering experimentation are they that stupid not to think things through asking what will be the consequences be ? Yes they are that stupid.

I though after McNamara's "Moron Brigade" and the consequences of that social engineering experiment and looking at the consequences when you look at the thousand names on that "Wall" that should have never been on that wall, liberals would have stopped using the military for social engineering.

Join todays PC Navy and fight sexual assaults.

Are you making excuses for murder?
 
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Are you making excuses for murder?

It's a Navy JAG Corps and NIS/NCIS problem not mine.

But are you suggesting that President Clinton and the Democrats screwed up by over downsizing the military, that we should put Marine detachments back on warships ? They did keep the squids in place and when stories passed through the ships company that those Marine brig guards were sadistic mother #######, there was less disciplinary problems on board the ship. Also the Marines set an example how a ship should be kept ship shape and clean, the decks were always clean, no paint flaking anywhere and the brass was even shinier.

"A ship without Marines is like a garment without buttons." — Adm David G. Farragut
 
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It's a Navy JAG Corps and NIS/NCIS problem not mine.

But are you suggesting that President Clinton and the Democrats screwed up by over downsizing the military, that we should put Marine detachments back on warships ? They did keep the squids in place and when stories passed through the ships company that those Marine brig guards were sadistic mother #######, there was less disciplinary problems on board the ship. Also the Marines set an example how a ship should be kept ship shape and clean, the decks were always clean, no paint flaking anywhere and the brass was even shinier.

"A ship without Marines is like a garment without buttons." — Adm David G. Farragut

Are you excusing murder?
 
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As is most of what you say.
You standard far out left wing answer.......Little or no substance.....In the future I will ignore all personal attack posts from you. That should put you out of business because if its not a personl attack you have nothing to add
 
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