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Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase [W:68]

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But he's right all the same.

“Rum, sodomy and the lash”

Before the PC Navy you had regulations on how those who engaged in buggery were to be handled. Hanging from the yard arm was an acceptable form of punishment.

>" If any Person in the Fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable Sin of Buggery or Sodomy with Man or Beast, he shall be punished with Death."<

Once the cabin boys disapeared from warships there was little problems with buggery. But just recently the buggery problem has resurfaced. Why is that ? Must be social engineering taking place. And there's only one ship in the Navy that has a yardarm ! The USS Constitution.
 
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“Rum, sodomy and the lash”

Before the PC Navy you had regulations on how those who engaged in buggery were to be handled. Hanging from the yard arm was an acceptable form of punishment.

>" If any Person in the Fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable Sin of Buggery or Sodomy with Man or Beast, he shall be punished with Death."<

Once the cabin boys disapeared from warships there was little problems with buggery. But just recently the buggery problem has resurfaced. Why is that ? Must be social engineering taking place. And there's only one ship in the Navy that has a yardarm ! The USS Constitution.

Don't duck the question. Are you excusing murder?
 
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Don't duck the question. Are you excusing murder?

Give me an example where a murder has been comitted.

There are many who say involuntary manslaughter is just another PC term for murder.
 
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Give me an example where a murder has been comitted.

There are many who say involuntary manslaughter is just another PC term for murder.

Nothing involuntary about throwing someone off a ship. Answer the question, are you excusing murder?
 
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Nothing involuntary about throwing someone off a ship. Answer the question, are you excusing murder?

Who gave you this authority of authoritism of telling people what to do ?

Now that might fly with in the Democrat Party where everyone is goose stepping and are in lockstep and individual opinions are forbidden. But I'm on the other side of the political spectrum. :2usflag:
 
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Who gave you this authority of authoritism of telling people what to do ?

Now that might fly with in the Democrat Party where everyone is goose stepping and are in lockstep and individual opinions are forbidden. But I'm on the other side of the political spectrum. :2usflag:

Just answer. Take a stand if you dare.
 
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“Rum, sodomy and the lash”

Before the PC Navy you had regulations on how those who engaged in buggery were to be handled. Hanging from the yard arm was an acceptable form of punishment.

>" If any Person in the Fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable Sin of Buggery or Sodomy with Man or Beast, he shall be punished with Death."<

Once the cabin boys disapeared from warships there was little problems with buggery. But just recently the buggery problem has resurfaced. Why is that ? Must be social engineering taking place. And there's only one ship in the Navy that has a yardarm ! The USS Constitution.

So you agree with those laws at the time that people should have been killed for homosexual actions huh?
 
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So you agree with those laws at the time that people should have been killed for homosexual actions huh?

I had no problem of the Buggery Act 1533. It served the Navy well for almost three hundred years.

But why did it take them so long to figure out if you didn't allow cabin boys to serve aboard ship, there never would have been a problem in the first place ?
 
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I had no problem of the Buggery Act 1533. It served the Navy well for almost three hundred years.

But why did it take them so long to figure out if you didn't allow cabin boys to serve aboard ship, there never would have been a problem in the first place ?

There was just as much buggerin' then as there is now, cabin boys or not.
 
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It might be true today, but how about before the PC Navy ?

The same amount of buggerin', people just had to be more careful about getting caught.
 
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The same amount of buggerin', people just had to be more careful about getting caught.

Most people are excited doing things when they think they are getting away with something they shouldn't be doing.
 
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Most people are excited doing things when they think they are getting away with something they shouldn't be doing.

Most people are morons. Always have been, always will be. What's your point?
 
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Most people are morons. Always have been, always will be. What's your point?

I'm proud that I'm not a moron. How about you ?

The point being while drifting of topic, there were a number of studies conducted during the late 60's and early 70's in reference to drug use in particular marijuana use during the era of "Turn on, tune in and drop out." "Sex Drugs and Rock n' Roll." A large percentage were getting high because it was against the law. It was against "the man." (society) If picking your nose were to have been against the law, the counter culture youth would have picked their noses raw.
 
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I'll hold judgement.

CAT-4's are classified as morons. As in McNamara's Moron Brigade.

I see that in the name of political correctness, the military has been dumbed down to where they are allowing CAT-4's to enlist again. I wonder has the military looked into if CAT-4's are committing the majority of these sexual assaults in the military ?

I remember during the Vietnam war, over half of those who were in the DaNang brig were CAT-4's.
 
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I had no problem of the Buggery Act 1533. It served the Navy well for almost three hundred years.

That's all I need to know about you then. The fact you think killing gays for homosexual acts is justified shows you to be no different than any other hate group.
 
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CAT-4's are classified as morons. As in McNamara's Moron Brigade.

I see that in the name of political correctness, the military has been dumbed down to where they are allowing CAT-4's to enlist again. I wonder has the military looked into if CAT-4's are committing the majority of these sexual assaults in the military ?

I remember during the Vietnam war, over half of those who were in the DaNang brig were CAT-4's.

What causes one to be classified as CAT-4?
 
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That's all I need to know about you then. The fact you think killing gays for homosexual acts is justified shows you to be no different than any other hate group.

Back in 1533 it was a capital offense.

During the 1800's in America they hung horse thieves.

Today in America if they were to sentence car thieves to death I wouldn't have any problem with it. It's usually the second most expensive purchase that most Americans make and someones rips off your car and it they are caught and only do 90 days in the county jail ! Give me a break.

Back to the original topic of the OP. Under the UCMJ rape can carry the death sentence by hanging. Since post WW ll, I believe that sentence has only been carried out twice. During WW ll close to a hundred Army soldiers were hung by the neck for rape.

Why don't they hang those today in the military who commit rape ? I know why, the political left had a problem with it. And they even played the race card.
 
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What causes one to be classified as CAT-4?

Today the U.S. military uses the AFQT. Back when I enlisted they used a different test but the left said it was racist. They did the same thing with the GCT. So today you rarely hear anyone using ones GCT score but I understand that some officers and in the Marine Corps some MOS's require taking the GCT.

An Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT) score is used to determine basic qualification for enlistment.

AFQT Scores are divided into the following categories:

Category I: 93–100
Category II: 65–92
Category III A: 50–64
Category III B: 31–49
Category IV A: 21–30
Category IV B: 16–20
Category IV C: 10–15
Category V: 0–9

Before 2009 you had to be a CAT-l to attend one of the military academies. Obama lowered it to CAT-lll's in the name of diversity. BTW. all whites still have to be CAT-l's.

Don't you just love social engineering when you are wondering if your daughters platoon commander was one of those CAT-lll officers while she's one of the first female grunts involved in a firefight ?
 
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Guys, lay off Navy Pride. Especially those of you that have never served. You simply don't know the environment we work in. It's not like working in an office with females. It's very different from that. I don't think Navy Pride is blaming the victims. I think what he's saying, and I agree, is that the females should have never been put in a spot where they could be assaulted. Sure, it would still happen sometimes. But, if you notice, the more we integrate sexes, the more males and females work together, the more assaults occur. It's the nature of the beast. Just because it's the military doesn't mean we are impervious to things like this. We have bad apples just like the civilian world does.

It's funny how people who never spent anytime in the service are suddenly experts.

We said this would happen with the abolition of DADT.
 
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I've heard more than a few stories of gay sailors being thrown overboard off of Okinawa and the PI's.

I was a Marine but I was aboard a number of USN ships, mostly Essex class carriers that were used as LPH's and County class LSD's. These ships were built for only one purpose, to fight battles at sea. There was no consideration of providing any comfort when these ships were built. Squad bays with 200 Marines or sailors with racks stacked four high. No such thing as toilet stall or shower stalls. Gang showers what they were called. And if any one was caught eye ####### someone he either disappeared by morning muster or if he was lucky he ended up in sickbay saying he ran into a hatchway.

When ashore watching your buddy's six wasn't thinking about anally sodomizing him but making sure that Charley didn't kill him.

I think rougenuke that Navypride can compare todays PC Navy with the fighting navy of the past. Are you able to do the same ?

When the Secretary of Defense (Hagel) tells the U.S. military that it's main mission today is fighting sexual assaults, we have a problem. That's not the mission of the Navy, Marine Corps, Army or Air Force.
When did this problem began ? What was responsible for causing this problem in the first place ? Lets go back and look when there was no problem.

When liberals use the U.S. military for social engineering experimentation are they that stupid not to think things through asking what will be the consequences be ? Yes they are that stupid.

I though after McNamara's "Moron Brigade" and the consequences of that social engineering experiment and looking at the consequences when you look at the thousand names on that "Wall" that should have never been on that wall, liberals would have stopped using the military for social engineering.

Join todays PC Navy and fight sexual assaults.

You are describing a problem due to PCism, not women in the military or serving on combat ships. You and NP are wrongfully attributing the issue to women serving on combat ships instead of the media overblowing all instances of sexual assault, particularly within organizations such as the military and causing our military command to then greatly overreact to these attempted accusations that the problem is somehow mainly in our military. It isn't. It exists in every country, in every organization in the world. Sexual assault occurs all over, and one of the best places to combat it is in the military.

It shouldn't be our main mission. That is PC nonsense, but it also has nothing to do with women serving. Those sexual assaults would still very likely occur. The victims and place where it occurs could be different, but that wouldn't change the numbers. It would make those like you feel better because it would likely change the Navy's numbers, but it wouldn't change the numbers overall. It would simply shuffle around who sexual assaults were being reported to. It could possibly make the situation worse though because there would likely be no extra help available to those women and men who are sexually assaulted, as there is now.

And your insinuation that people being thrown overboard for such things and that this is a good thing, is wrong in many ways. First of all, murder is wrong, especially vigilante murder. Second, not all those who sexually assaulted men were doing so out of attraction or in a way seen as "gay", despite popular belief.
 
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