Re: Official: Reports of Sex Assault in Navy Increase
You're not even correct on your information. 2010 is prior to DADT being repealed. It was just repealed last year, not in 2010.
Once DADT was repealed, and we knew it would be (we as in the military) prosecution of all homosexual cases were stopped and new ones were not prosecuted. So yes, it did effectively end in 2010. The Staff Judge Advocate and JAG were not wasting their time on investigating and prosecuting something that was going to be repealed anyway. Further, the official repeal DID occur at the end of 2010 with the beginning of the Joint Chiefs overview and the 60 waiting period following. Get your facts straight.
Democrats in both houses of Congress first attempted to end DADT by amending the Defense Authorization Act. On May 27, 2010, on a 234–194 vote,[125] the U.S. House of Representatives approved the Murphy amendment[126] to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011. It provided for repeal of the DADT policy and created a process for lifting the policy, including a U.S. Department of Defense study and certification by key officials that the change in policy would not harm military readiness followed by a waiting period of 60 days.[127][128] The amended defense bill passed the House on May 28, 2010.[129]
Don't ask, don't tell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Plus, you have no support for what you are trying to say. In fact, another key fact that you fail to consider is that reports are not released to the Corps about who made them, but the numbers are. But if an investigation was conducted, even with the victim not being named, that would still have clashed with DADT possibly in the past but would not now. None of what you posted makes any sense in regards to the arguments being made. You are simply stating stupid opinions that have nothing to do with the true facts.
There are no assumptions being made here.
Regarding retention, 10 percent of active-duty U.S. personnel said they were not planning to leave when their obligation ended but would leave sooner in the event of repeal. By service, the portions of this group identified as most likely to leave ranged from 2 percent among those in U.S. Coast Guard nonoperational occupations to more than 12 percent among U.S. Marines
Gays in the Military | RAND
More than 70 percent of respondents, spanning all branches of the military, said the effect of repealing the prohibition on openly gay troops would be positive, mixed or nonexistent. But about 40 percent of the Marine Corps respondents expressed concern about lifting the ban.
Why are the Marines the military's biggest backers of 'don't ask, don't tell'?
66.5 percent of U.S. Marine combat forces surveyed by a special Defense Department working group said that putting homosexuals in their units would hurt their effectiveness in the field, and 47.8 percent of Marines in combat units specifically said putting homosexuals in their units would hurt their effectiveness “in an intense combat situation.”
67 Percent of Marine Combat Forces Say Putting Homosexuals in Their Units Will Hurt Their Effectiveness in the Field, Says DOD Report | CNS News
Does this sound like a force that is gay friendly?
All men, Marines or not, are afraid to report a sexual assault, whether to military authorities or to civilian authorities. The reason reports go up is because men feel that they are able to report them without people finding out. It has little to nothing to do with how many people are actually being assaulted. Your assumptions are based on pure fantasy about Marines that doesn't exist.
A) I think I know a little about Marines. I've been one for 15 years. I have created over 400 Marines as a Drill Instructor, have led them in combat on 5 different occasions, and have served in numerous spots with numerous MOS's. As opposed to you who may have met a few once or twice and may have given some of us a ride to a fight.
B) Sexual assault training has been in the military for as long as I've been in. Sexual Assault Prevention Coordinators have been around for that long as well. So what changed? All of the steps that have been taken (civilianizing the coordinators, etc) have been retroactive to the uptick in reports. So that isn't the reason. So what is? You throw the "idiot" name around yet have nothing to back your claims.
Sexual assault isn't about sexual orientation.
Yes, because straight men rape other straight men most of the time.
And cases are not going to increase just because gay men are now allowed to say that they are gay without fear of reprisal for that.
Why wouldn't it? If a man who previously wasn't allowed to join based on his sexual orientation now joins, then gets drunk one night and decides to have his way with his roommate in the barracks, didn't being gay in the first place AND being allowed to join make that happen? Of course that's a hypothetical scenario, but, it is totally in keeping with what happens during many sexual assaults, regardless of sex. Alcohol is involved many times.
DADT being repealed didn't make it okay for men to be sexually assaulted and only an idiot would think that the repeal is responsible for any perceived increase in sexual assaults.
Where did I say it did make it okay? Only an idiot would have the theories that she has and not have a single thread of evidence to back it up. Where are your stats that reports are up just because people think it's okay to do now? Where's your proof?
Anyway, what is your take on why, when we've received sexual assault training for as long as I can remember, that it suddenly became okay to these guys to report when it wasn't before? You have yet to present any thing that supports your THEORY. Nothing. I at least have a factor that directly influences my theory, the repeal of DADT. I'll you know, by the way, that
