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Union Square ‘I hate white people’ beating victim dies; suspect in court.

justabubba said:
the great recession has adversely
impacted those of color the most
as a minority person who can't get ahead, who sees others like him in a similar circumstance, while perceiving majority individuals to be doing ok
all that person can see is black and white
he isn't looking deep enough at the situation to assess that maybe the choices the average white person makes is not as self destructive as those choices made by him and his minority cohort
that would require insight and a willingness to engage in true introspection. it is much easier to blame someone else for our self inflicted problems

and this is not a uniquely black thing. white trash will usually blame blacks and the welfare they receive for the inferior circumstances they face in their lives
notice that neither under-performing group will take ownership for their own plight
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Is anyone responsible for their actions in your world ??
 
Grant said:
Blacks felt they could be killed with impunity?
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Yes, that's my impression of one major problem blacks had with the Martin case. (Obviously, their outrage extended beyond that as well.)

Remember, with Stand Your Ground, a large number of self-defense cases don't even go before a grand jury.


That's obvious nonsense propagated by races hustlers like Al Sharpton and Barrack Obama.
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I've never read a single thing that either of them have said about SYG laws.


Zimmerman wasn't arrested because, as demonstrated, it was a straightforward case of Stand Your Ground.
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Zimmerman wasn't initially arrested because someone (the cops iirc) treated it the same way they do a SYG case -- as something the laws would make so difficult to prosecute that it wasn't worth considering.


Obama involved himself (again) in a case which only fired up racial suspicions and hatreds. He cannot keep his mouth shut.
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Obama waited until the verdict was announced before making a speech on the matter. He had no involvement in the case. He also has not ordered federal prosecutors to go after Zimmerman.
 
Erod said:
I don't know, ask your president, who only cares when black thug kids get killed by Hispanic men with white last names in self defense.
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So I'm guessing "Martin" is now a black last name?
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, me too in some respects...But why would they be doing that? What do they have to gain by further racial division of the nation? :doh Wait, I think I just answered my own question to myself....Ratings....It's disgusting, but probably true....

I still think this guy who did this should pay. :peace
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hard to say, the guy who did this needs killing
 
j-mac said:
I hope they lock this guy up and throw away the key...The larger question I have is why the spike in black on white racial crime lately? What factors do y'all see as causing this to, if not be happening as portrayed as far as news reporting, then why the increased reporting of this type of thing....And if it is as prevalent as the reports on the news would suggest, why isn't there more of a public plea to the black community to knock it off?
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To the bolded: Because it would be seen as offensive to not only the black community as a whole, but to many other people as well.
 
Mason66 said:
I thought you were going to referrence his movie "The Jerk" where he played the son of a black mom.
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Oh damn, you are right. That would have been a ten pointer..
 
j-mac said:
I hope they lock this guy up and throw away the key...The larger question I have is why the spike in black on white racial crime lately? What factors do y'all see as causing this to, if not be happening as portrayed as far as news reporting, then why the increased reporting of this type of thing....And if it is as prevalent as the reports on the news would suggest, why isn't there more of a public plea to the black community to knock it off?
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Now white people are educated to fight off prejudice. Do you think black people could be educated to that effect also?

If yes, is it working still?

If not, what can be done about it since you cannot transport black Americans back to Africa no more?
 
j-mac said:
I hope they lock this guy up and throw away the key...The larger question I have is why the spike in black on white racial crime lately? What factors do y'all see as causing this to, if not be happening as portrayed as far as news reporting, then why the increased reporting of this type of thing....And if it is as prevalent as the reports on the news would suggest, why isn't there more of a public plea to the black community to knock it off?
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all criminals should be punished no matter what color they are

but l guess you think many blacks are potential criminal


how do l guess it ?

l never need a magic ball to guess it
 
Grant said:
as demonstrated, it was a straightforward case of Stand Your Ground.
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Just FYI, the defense didn't use stand your ground. It wasn't demonstrated to be a "straightforward case of Stand Your Ground," in any way. No one even tried to demonstrate that. As for the OP, they should prosecute this as a hate crime.
 
Visbek said:
Yes, that's my impression of one major problem blacks had with the Martin case. (Obviously, their outrage extended beyond that as well.)
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Few Black people are that stupid. This was propganda put forward by race hustlers with the stress being put on Zimmerman's being White, not Hispanic.

Remember, with Stand Your Ground, a large number of self-defense cases don't even go before a grand jury.
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Exactly. And this case should never have gone to trial either, just as the jury said.

I've never read a single thing that either of them have said about SYG laws.
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There was some mumbling but it doesn't really matter.

Zimmerman wasn't initially arrested because someone (the cops iirc) treated it the same way they do a SYG case -- as something the laws would make so difficult to prosecute that it wasn't worth considering.
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Right. Until the race hustlers became involved.
Obama waited until the verdict was announced before making a speech on the matter. He had no involvement in the case. He also has not ordered federal prosecutors to go after Zimmerman.
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It doesn't matter. What good does it do for thew US President to talk about the Zimmerman case? Why did he mention it at all and stir up more animosities, suspicions, protests, etc. The US President is a loose cannon, and a fool.
 
Grendel said:
Just FYI, the defense didn't use stand your ground. It wasn't demonstrated to be a "straightforward case of Stand Your Ground," in any way. No one even tried to demonstrate that. As for the OP, they should prosecute this as a hate crime.
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Yes, I know. But the SYG law was why Zimmerman wasn't charged in the first place, and not because Martin was Black. The race hustlers just wanted their faces kept front and center as though they are the defenders of Black people. It's disgusting.
 
Hatuey said:
So I'm guessing "Martin" is now a black last name?
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Way to not get it.

Zimmerman is a Hispanic man. But not according to most of the media, who latched on to his name and tried to make this a "white on black" crime.

Sadly, you knew what I meant, and you know I'm right about the double standard, so you start this backpedaling, liberal-group-hug diversionary tactic to placate yourselves. It's just what you people know and do.
 
Erod said:
Way to not get it.

Zimmerman is a Hispanic man. But not according to most of the media, who latched on to his name and tried to make this a "white on black" crime.

Sadly, you knew what I meant, and you know I'm right about the double standard, so you start this backpedaling, liberal-group-hug diversionary tactic to placate yourselves. It's just what you people know and do.
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#1. "Hispanics" are not a race.
#2. by all accounts George Zimmerman, under the US Census IS white.
#3. There is no such thing as a "white" or "black" last name.
#4. So, if we're to go by the fact that US census does not consider "Hispanics" as a race, yes this was a white on black murder.

I'm sorry you couldn't back up your "white last name" nonsense.
 
Hatuey said:
#1. "Hispanics" are not a race.
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Hispanic and Latino describe ethnicity, not race, that's true.

Hatuey said:
#4. So, if we're to go by the fact that US census does not consider "Hispanics" as a race, yes this was a white on black murder.
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According to State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman, the jury found George Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder as well as manslaughter and he was released. So there was no "white on black murder" as you claim.
 
Ockham said:
Hispanic and Latino describe ethnicity, not race, that's true.

According to State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman, the jury found George Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder as well as manslaughter and he was released. So there was no "white on black murder" as you claim.
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He was murdered :shrug:
 
justabubba said:
the great recession has adversely impacted those of color the most
as a minority person who can't get ahead, who sees others like him in a similar circumstance, while perceiving majority individuals to be doing ok
all that person can see is black and white
he isn't looking deep enough at the situation to assess that maybe the choices the average white person makes is not as self destructive as those choices made by him and his minority cohort
that would require insight and a willingness to engage in true introspection. it is much easier to blame someone else for our self inflicted problems

and this is not a uniquely black thing. white trash will usually blame blacks and the welfare they receive for the inferior circumstances they face in their lives
notice that neither under-performing group will take ownership for their own plight
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That was a great post...right up to the "white trash" part.
 
Grant said:
This was propganda put forward by race hustlers with the stress being put on Zimmerman's being White, not Hispanic.
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No, it's a recognition that SYG laws have resulted in a lot of people not facing any criminal legal scrutiny, based on telling the police it was an act of self-defense.

If you're going to shoot someone, even in self-defense, your actions ought to be scrutinized by a legal process.


Exactly. And this case should never have gone to trial either, just as the jury said.
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The jury said nothing of the kind.


Right. Until the race hustlers became involved.
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The outrage was pretty much immediate, and would have happened if Sharpton et al had said nothing.


It doesn't matter. What good does it do for thew US President to talk about the Zimmerman case? Why did he mention it at all and stir up more animosities, suspicions, protests, etc. The US President is a loose cannon, and a fool.
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So wait, it doesn't matter that you accuse the President of inappropriately getting involved, when he did no such thing? How curious.

The President is a "loose canon," when he refrained from commenting on the case for a year and a half?

He was "stirring up animosities, suspicions and protests" by commenting only when the verdict was passed? Seriously?
 
Hatuey said:
#1. "Hispanics" are not a race.
#2. by all accounts George Zimmerman, under the US Census IS white.
#3. There is no such thing as a "white" or "black" last name.
#4. So, if we're to go by the fact that US census does not consider "Hispanics" as a race, yes this was a white on black murder.

I'm sorry you couldn't back up your "white last name" nonsense.
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Transparence is not your virtue. Look at the man and tell me he's white. Check mate.

And by the way, how come there aren't any white people anymore with the last name Washington or Jefferson? Just an odd observation, nothing more.
 
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