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On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

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Gaugingcatenate said:
Thankfully for society, not that "many"... enough to call into question the idea of marriage, so shame on all of you folks who believe that way and willing to risk something that is not yours ... its the rest of us who are not "fine" with it. Sorry, its not normal.
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Please explain to this 'clueless' leftie, precisely HOW does same sex marriage "risk" the ceremony and legal standing of marriage for opposite sex folks.
 
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Somerville said:
Please explain to this 'clueless' leftie, precisely HOW does same sex marriage "risk" the ceremony and legal standing of marriage for opposite sex folks.
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there will be no factual explanation given because its a made up lie and fallacy, its a fear tactic a straw-man that nobody buys
 
ItAin'tFree said:
Nope.

The 20 man condom study you claimed existed, never did. Context has nothing to do with you making something up.

You either told something factual or you did not. We have now proven it was not fact, you made a study up out of thin air to support a claim.

Integrity and honesty, try it sometime. Everybody that has been reading all this can see exactly what you are doing. You just keep making it worse on yourself. But that's your problem, not mine.
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No, the lack of integrity is certainly yours. You do not seem to understand context and refuse to follow the debate sequence... because it proves that you have nothing. Everyone can see it. You got pwned on a study that I showed was refuted, so you got upset. Too bad. Don't post refuted studies.

The problem here is that you cannot follow the debate. It's not about the study, but about your refuted position. I know that is hard to take, but one with integrity would just admit it and move on. Everyone can see that you are not doing that.
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
Thankfully for society, not that "many"... enough to call into question the idea of marriage, so shame on all of you folks who believe that way and willing to risk something that is not yours ... its the rest of us who are not "fine" with it.
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Those of you who are not fine with it are irrelevant. You have no right to not be offended.

Sorry, its not normal.
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In your opinion, one that has been proven false.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
See my first post (cited above). When the author of that article presumes to cite Abraham Lincoln on behalf of the homosexual cause, he is not only brazenly disrespecting Abraham Lincoln but the very cause for which Mr. Lincoln made that statement. That cause was slavery. Disrespecting the plight of the blacks in this nation for one's own selfish purposes, a purpose which has precisely ZERO in common with blacks and slavery, is blatant racism.

There, does that explain it?
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rrrrrrrriiiiiight. lol

look at you trying to fabricate a social wedge out of thin air for political gain.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No, the lack of integrity is certainly yours. You do not seem to understand context and refuse to follow the debate sequence... because it proves that you have nothing. Everyone can see it. You got pwned on a study that I showed was refuted, so you got upset. Too bad. Don't post refuted studies.

The problem here is that you cannot follow the debate. It's not about the study, but about your refuted position. I know that is hard to take, but one with integrity would just admit it and move on. Everyone can see that you are not doing that.
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LOL. Getting caught making "studies" up is rough isn't it?

It's completely about the study. Without you making that phony claim about it, other people on this board might mistakenly think you won't dream things up just to make a post. Now, you have proven to all of them you will type anything out, truth be damned, just to make a silly post.

BTW, I'm doing fine and dandy. Unlike you. Whatever self inflated reputation you thought you had, wave good by to it. It won't ever come back.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
LOL. Getting caught making "studies" up is rough isn't it?
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Since that didn't happen, it doesn't apply.

It's completely about the study. Without you making that phony claim about it, other people on this board might mistakenly think you won't dream things up just to make a post. Now, you have proven to all of them you will type anything out, truth be damned, just to make a silly post.
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No, it's about you being unable to follow the discussion and context. Trying to switch the topic just shows that you can't debate the topic.

BTW, I'm doing fine and dandy. Unlike you. Whatever self inflated reputation you thought you had, wave good by to it. It won't ever come back.
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You'd have to have ability to harm my reputation. You don't as I have shown. Just because you can't understand context doesn't mean you can't learn it, though.
 
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poweRob said:
rrrrrrrriiiiiight. lol

look at you trying to fabricate a social wedge out of thin air for political gain.
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Rrrrrriiiiight. LOL

Look at you trying to spin that which is as if it isn't.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Rrrrrriiiiight. LOL

Look at you trying to spin that which is as if it isn't.
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Keep pushing it. Maybe someone will believe it one day. Just keep on trying to preach the notion that the african american community should feel slighted. Such tactics don't float so well in this information age. Sorry.
 
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poweRob said:
Keep pushing it. Maybe someone will believe it one day. Just keep on trying to preach the notion that the african american community should feel slighted. Such tactics don't float so well in this information age. Sorry.
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nobody is gonna believe it thats why his post failed horribly and got destroyed by many posters.

He made a BS kneejerk claim without even realizing the author was black.

this fallacy strawman fell over and blew away before this thread even reached post 4, as soon as he said racism that was it. Complete failure then most of us pointed it out and got a good laugh at it.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Rrrrrriiiiight. LOL

Look at you trying to spin that which is as if it isn't.
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I could have some respect for your outrage over the comparison, if you cared one iota for the "plight of gays," as you do for the black civil rights movement, but something tells me you don't give a ****e.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Since that didn't happen, it doesn't apply.



No, it's about you being unable to follow the discussion and context. Trying to switch the topic just shows that you can't debate the topic.



You'd have to have ability to harm my reputation. You don't as I have shown. Just because you can't understand context doesn't mean you can't learn it, though.
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LOL. The 20 man condom study is the topic.


Who did it? When was it done? Where was it done?

You've had a couple of days to produce it but you can't make it show up. Everybody knows why you can't.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
LOL. The 20 man condom study is the topic.


Who did it? When was it done? Where was it done?

You've had a couple of days to produce it but you can't make it show up. Everybody knows why you can't.
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Still avoiding the reality of your failure, here? Still avoidng the context of our discussion, as if your attempts to do so create enough confusion to overlook how badly you have performed here. Don't worry. I will be sure to remind people of your failure.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Still avoiding the reality of your failure, here? Still avoidng the context of our discussion, as if your attempts to do so create enough confusion to overlook how badly you have performed here. Don't worry. I will be sure to remind people of your failure.
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The only failure is your failure to produce the 20 man condom study. Of course everyone knows why you won't produce the study, you can't. It doesn't exist. Yet you said it did. Everyone knows what that makes you.


I will be sure to remind people of how you invent studies that don't exist. And what that makes you.
 
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chromium said:
I could have some respect for your outrage over the comparison, if you cared one iota for the "plight of gays," as you do for the black civil rights movement, but something tells me you don't give a ****e.
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Only there is no "plight of the gays" that anyone should care one iota for them - let alone and compare that to the very real civil rights issues that have always faced blacks. Even if homosexuals were experiencing some sort of "plight" (beyond the plight of their own choices of course), attempting a comparison with that and blacks is at best absurd.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Those of you who are not fine with it are irrelevant. You have no right to not be offended.



In your opinion, one that has been proven false.
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The rest of us are 37 states, that would be the majority [ one would even call it a super majority, by the way ], that either ban SSM or define marriage as one man one woman. Sorry, you want to revisit the concept of "irrelevance" I am supposing, take that for a walk...:lamo :lamo :lamo

And normal is that which is not deviating from a norm...and if something such as homosexuality occurs in only between 2% and 5% of the population, that would mean it deviates from the norm and thus by definition is, simply, not normal. The fact that the parts do not fit gives further credence to the fact, the fact that your opinion is just your opinion makes no never mind...

Now...if history is any determinant of the future, it is probably about time for you to make some false proclamation of winning the debate, as is your ubiquitous bent.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Only there is no "plight of the gays" that anyone should care one iota for them - let alone and compare that to the very real civil rights issues that have always faced blacks. Even if homosexuals were experiencing some sort of "plight" (beyond the plight of their own choices of course), attempting a comparison with that and blacks is at best absurd.
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OK, you're just a worthless bigot clearly, so here's me not respecting your tantrum on black civil rights or anything else for that matter.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Only there is no "plight of the gays" that anyone should care one iota for them - let alone and compare that to the very real civil rights issues that have always faced blacks. Even if homosexuals were experiencing some sort of "plight" (beyond the plight of their own choices of course), attempting a comparison with that and blacks is at best absurd.
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wow and this explains all everybody needed to know about you, it drastically exposes your bigoted views, thanks for playing
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
The rest of us are 37 states, that would be the majority [ one would even call it a super majority, by the way ], that either ban SSM or define marriage as one man one woman. Sorry, you want to revisit the concept of "irrelevance" I am supposing, take that for a walk...:lamo :lamo :lamo

And normal is that which is not deviating from a norm...and if something such as homosexuality occurs in only between 2% and 5% of the population, that would mean it deviates from the norm and thus by definition is, simply, not normal. The fact that the parts do not fit gives further credence to the fact, the fact that your opinion is just your opinion makes no never mind...

Now...if history is any determinant of the future, it is probably about time for you to make some false proclamation of winning the debate, as is your ubiquitous bent.
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also its not 37 states, many people inside those states are fine with equal rights, just like most of the country and when some of those states have pushed those cases to the SSC they lost based on equality, law, rights and discrimination. the best part is it was the BANS those states did that helped them lose.

SO try your eyes because equal rights for gays is coming and discrimination is losing.

except its factually true that he did win the debate. he has facts and you do not

and the best part about this country which you are obviously to uneducated on this topic to know about is, in REALITY, it wont effect you, your marriage, what you think of it or risk it in any way what so ever. SO your failed fear tactic and straw man nobody cares about. YOU will still be allowed to conduct your marriage however you see fit. EVen though your views are too selfish, bigoted and anti-american to let others have theirs. You should thank god you live in a country like the US. Or you could always move out. Good luck!
 
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chromium said:
OK, you're just a worthless bigot clearly, so here's me not respecting your tantrum on black civil rights or anything else for that matter.
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AGENT J said:
wow and this explains all everybody needed to know about you, it drastically exposes your bigoted views, thanks for playing
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Ooh - irony in a thread about how the potential for America's division over homosexuality may soon go away - by several whose obvious support for homosexuality has no doubt contributed to the division.

Who'da thunk?
 
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chromium said:
OK, you're just a worthless bigot clearly, so here's me not respecting your tantrum on black civil rights or anything else for that matter.
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My comments are perfectly rational w/r to the issue outlined in the OP and I stand by them. Attempting to analogize the issue of homosexual marriage with the civil rights movement is beyond absurd. Why you would call me a "worthless bigot" merely for disagreeing with your stance on the issue is even more so and frankly, if you truly want to discuss bigotry, I suggest you take your comments to a mirror where they belong.

Homosexuality is nothing more than gross self indulgence. Period. Moreover, homosexuals are no more a class of people than are fans of a particular football team. They are not a race. They are people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have sex with someone of their own gender. Such choices do not a warrant for "civil rights" make any more than someone's chosen preference for a certain team qualifies them for special consideration.

There's nothing remotely bigoted in that, unless it is the bigotry attendant with some of those who disagree, who think homosexuality IS some sort of warrant for special consideration by society beyond that which their deviant, self-indulgent behavior deserves.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Ooh - irony in a thread about how the potential for America's division over homosexuality may soon go away - by several whose obvious support for homosexuality has no doubt contributed to the division.

Who'da thunk?
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translation?: you bigoted views have been exposed and you are trying, and failing, to deflect. Nobody is fooled.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
My comments are perfectly rational w/r to the issue outlined in the OP and I stand by them. Attempting to analogize the issue of homosexual marriage with the civil rights movement is beyond absurd. Why you would call me a "worthless bigot" merely for disagreeing with your stance on the issue is even more so and frankly, if you truly want to discuss bigotry, I suggest you take your comments to a mirror where they belong.

Homosexuality is nothing more than gross self indulgence. Period. Moreover, homosexuals are no more a class of people than are fans of a particular football team. They are not a race. They are people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have sex with someone of their own gender. Such choices do not a warrant for "civil rights" make any more than someone's chosen preference for a certain team qualifies them for special consideration.

There's nothing remotely bigoted in that, unless it is the bigotry attendant with some of those who disagree, who think homosexuality IS some sort of warrant for special consideration by society beyond that which their behavior deserves.
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please, please please keep posting and further expose yourself and your bigoted views
 
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AGENT J said:
please, please please keep posting and further expose yourself and your bigoted views
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Thank you for highlighting the more salient truths I had posted.

And as I noted with the other person, if you want to discuss bigotry, take your hatred of me on account of your disagreements with my comments to the mirror where they belong ok?
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Thank you for highlighting the more salient truths I had posted.

And as I noted with the other person, if you want to discuss bigotry, take your hatred of me on account of your disagreements with my comments to the mirror where they belong ok?
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you didnt post and truths

thank you for exposing yourself, the lies you post and your bigoted views further

also i have ZERO hatred of you, you are actually very funny and entertaining :shrug: dont know where you got that false idea from
 
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